Free Range Naturism

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Title: New converts to FRN
Post by: Peter S on November 03, 2017, 09:42:14 AM

https://pinkhathiker.wordpress.com/2017/11/02/the-naked-in-nature-movement/

It seems we have been fore runners of a “movement” which is “taking the hiking world by storm”. Who knew, eh?
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Bob Knows on November 03, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
Thanks for sharing that link.

When she sees others going naked she has permission to go naked in nature.  When enough people do it then it becomes a "movement" and its OK for many more.   We have to stop hiding so that it become common. 

Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Patrick1951 on November 03, 2017, 05:29:35 PM
It would indeed be a good thing if social nudity became much more acceptable, simply by people actually moving around socially naked. I know that nudity will not ever be the norm on the streets or in shopping area's in England.  2 years ago on a very hot summers day I put a pair of shorts on to go to local shop, two women pulled their young children closer, the man putting his bike in the rack asked, "Are you ok pops, is someone looking after you?" Maybe an 'old man' in tiny shorts is beyond the limits of acceptability, so if I had not put the shorts on there could have been 'mass hysterical panic!
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on November 03, 2017, 07:33:36 PM
Lately, I've been seeing more women out on the trail than men. I'm bumping into couples and pairs of women. Occasional lone guys. Maybe it is just a fluke, but it is good to see, liberated accomplished females.

Anyway, a naked in nature movement. I'll do my part!
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: BlueTrain on March 27, 2018, 03:51:16 PM
That was an interesting article, although I don't agree with everything she said. Be that as it may be, "naked in nature" is definitely a form of naturism, though not the only one. I also agree that nudity is exhilarating and gives a real sense of physical freedom.
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Bob Knows on March 27, 2018, 08:03:51 PM
Lately, I've been seeing more women out on the trail than men. I'm bumping into couples and pairs of women. Occasional lone guys. Maybe it is just a fluke, but it is good to see, liberated accomplished females.

Anyway, a naked in nature movement. I'll do my part!
Jbee


Are any of the women you see naked in nature?   

Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on March 28, 2018, 07:29:53 PM
Yes. Redington Pass certainly. I have not seen, but know for a fact that nude swimming and wandering around vicinity camp has been policy of two female hikers, as they are friends. Then there's those with me. Other than that, I don't know, other than they showed absolutely no surprise about naked me.

I have never encountered another person naked on the trail. Generally, they have seen me covered up, too. Most people tend to hike to a watered place and then, undress as far as my lifetime experiences. Swimming holes will drop inhibition, but caution is often employed. I'd bet that I have bumped into more pairs on naked women, that were thinking that in privacy, than pairs of naked men at swimming holes (they were in privacy until we arrived). But, that is just a few. I don't know if it means anything.

Lately, these are just some women hiking. They commonly, usually, are talking with each other, giving plenty of warning. That has been consistent. I could say that a majority of women talk on the trail and not quiet enough to not scare critters, or alarm nude hikers, which is different than most men. They are not likely to be doing that while nude hiking...but, then again I can reflect on several who did, or who talked lots while I'm hiking nude and supposedly in stealth. There will be a trip report later in the year where a group hike had two of us getting away from them, so we could better get in touch with the natural surroundings and maybe see some wildlife, because they were so loud.

Lately, I've been seeing more women on the trail than men. All, both genders have been wearing clothing and looking silly and out of touch for it.
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: BlueTrain on March 28, 2018, 10:42:40 PM
I have never met or seen another person on the trail who was naked or appeared to have just covered up. I've never seen anyone who looked silly, either. But I have seen lone women hiking on backwoods trails and in all seasons but I don't recall any in pairs. I've seen only a few family groups (meaning with children) but two men together frequently. Sometimes a man and women together. Overall, the people I've seen have covered a wide age range. I've also been seen nude, too, a few times. Unfortunately, none of the places that I've been in the last 20 years have any places for swimming.
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: eyesup on March 28, 2018, 11:23:56 PM
Somehow I missed this one the 1st time around.

I guess if more people are getting out and going hiking naked that’s good, no matter the reason.
Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.

I’ve been doing this off and on since I was a kid, so I can see why she’s so excited. If she’s just discovered naked outdoor activities as an adult it can be liberating.

Good for her and public nudity.

Duane
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Safebare on March 29, 2018, 12:24:28 AM
In the many years and places I have been hiking, there have been a few encounters with others that happened to be nude.  The first was while hiking the Gila Wilderness back in the 70's.  My wife at the time, 2 brothers and me were hiking down the Gila River to the 'Ponds'.  It was an overnight hike and we certainly were novices.  My little bro had drained his water rations for the day and had just about given up on ever finding the mysterious 'ponds' when we happened upon them.  He was quickly dropping trou when I cautioned him that the pond, he was about to jump in, was already occupied.  A nude woman was curled up at the waters edge gazing into the depths.  My brother hollered to her, asking if she minded company and was elated when she acknowledged in the positive.  His clothes were quickly shed, followed by a less than graceful dive.  He looked like a duck trying to get airborne as he crossed over to the side with the woman.  Being from Texas, he didn't realize how cold snow melt could be.  So my naked brother joined the nude woman curled up next to the water's edge, gazing at its depths.
We were able to accustom ourselves to the water temperature, though I think we spent considerable more time sunning and exploring the warm rocks than soaking in the cold water.  The woman disappeared before we had a chance to converse and we did not see her again.  It was one of the first opportunities I had to experience free range naturism as an adult.
I have a story from last year that I will post.  It involves an encounter with a nude couple on the Barton Creek Greenbelt in Austin.  The girl was hulla-hooping when I arrived and we chatted a bit.  They soon packed up to continue down the trail, putting all of their things (except shoes and the hoop) in their backpacks and heading out. Up to that moment, I thought I was the only one hiking the trails bare all over (except for the feet).

Be Safe, Be Bare,
Safebare
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Bob Knows on March 29, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.
Duane

I always found sunbathing to be exceedingly boring.  I need to be doing something like hiking, walking, playing, etc. 

Bob
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on March 29, 2018, 08:25:18 PM
I have no trouble suntanning, or laying about.

It is pleasant to lie still, to watch breath, to feel the breeze across the body, the varying heat from the sun. I watch the patterns and light show, as the light shines through my eyelids. There is always something passing by, like the clouds above, their patterns mixed with my imagination. My mind can always float into deliberations, contemplations, organizations, and imaginative projects. Better still, is for the mind and thoughts to turn off, or down, so awareness of the moment is all that there is. Sometime sleep comes, maybe a dream. Sometimes my suntanning is done on a rubber raft in a pool, floating, simply navigating from edge to edge, only movement in the arms. Sometimes I'll listen to music, or read, or listen to the waves crash repetitively at the beach. It is also pleasant to lay with DF, maybe just holding hands on our backs. People lay in the sun and talk. There is native American social behavior where it is impolite to look at someone when conversing. There is a reason for that and has a place. It is a good way to "know" someone, while laying in the sun.

There is a craft to getting an even tan, where stripes don't run from armpit to ankle, winkies don't exist and you look likeyou were born that way. It can be a sense of accomplishment to sport such a work.

Nope, never board, always a pleasure.
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: eyesup on March 29, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
I once laid down out in the middle of the desert to just do a little naked sunbathing. I became so relaxed, I fell asleep. If I did that in my back yard, I would hear the neighbors stereo, the traffic on the street, sirens, jets taking off (I live near an airport) and a host of other everyday city noises.

The peace and quiet of the desert just lulled me to sleep. I woke up and for a split second I was unaware of where I was. I still remember that special reaction to realizing I was out in nature and I felt perfectly normal.

Duane
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Bob Knows on March 30, 2018, 03:18:39 PM
I once laid down out in the middle of the desert to just do a little naked sunbathing. I became so relaxed, I fell asleep. If I did that in my back yard, I would hear the neighbors stereo, the traffic on the street, sirens, jets taking off (I live near an airport) and a host of other everyday city noises.
Duane

When I lived in Los ALamos, NM, I often went out into the wood and lay down for 30 minutes to meditate and such.  It was a trial.  I get bored really quickly.  Then for a while I started falling asleep in the woods.  After I became single again I began staying up late on Internet chats out of loneliness.  I was going home for lunch and taking a nap. I still take naps and find that having the TV on golf or baseball makes a nap easy.  In some way the noise of traffic on the streets, airplanes, everyday noises, is reassuring that the world is normal. So we feel safe and secure to sleep. No predator animals are going to attack us while those other people are watching the world.  Sometimes when it becomes TOO quiet we have more to fear.  Just thinking.  I still enjoy napping naked outside too.     
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: BlueTrain on March 30, 2018, 05:16:42 PM
When everything is really quiet, I can hear the ringing in my ears better.
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: eyesup on March 30, 2018, 09:17:53 PM
If more people did do naked sunbathing, and it became so prevalent that it was no longer unexpected, next on the agenda would be naked hiking!

My brain usually begins to focus on the noise. Especially if it's irregular. Steady, monotonous noise starts to fade to white noise and I stop hearing it.

That happens to the ringing in my ears sometimes!  ;)

Duane
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: BlueTrain on March 30, 2018, 11:21:57 PM
An old book I have starts out by making mention of "sun-starved" people living in New York apartment houses. Although I have said somewhere or other that the AANR was correct in changing its name to "American Association of Nude Recreation," the older name of American Sunbathing Association may have been more correct in the past when some people were more devoted than now to getting a good tan. That's something I've never been able to do, yet that was the initial entrance, so to say, to being nude outside.

But it can be a leap from sunbathing or swimming to hiking. My feet are only good for a couple of miles these days.
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: JOhnGw on March 31, 2018, 11:26:01 AM
Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.
Duane

I always found sunbathing to be exceedingly boring.  I need to be doing something like hiking, walking, playing, etc. 

Bob
The nearest I ever get to sunbathing is reading.

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Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Bob Knows on March 31, 2018, 03:09:59 PM
An old book I have starts out by making mention of "sun-starved" people living in New York apartment houses. Although I have said somewhere or other that the AANR was correct in changing its name to "American Association of Nude Recreation," the older name of American Sunbathing Association may have been more correct in the past when some people were more devoted than now to getting a good tan. That's something I've never been able to do, yet that was the initial entrance, so to say, to being nude outside.
But it can be a leap from sunbathing or swimming to hiking. My feet are only good for a couple of miles these days.


The name AANR is all about going on holiday at commercial nude farms.  It has nothing to do with every day nude living.   I was a member of ASA, but dropped my membership shortly after they refocused their organization on factory farm holidays.   The organization has opposed free range nudism, but at least now they are honest about their goals and programs.

Bob
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: nuduke on April 02, 2018, 12:14:13 AM

Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.
Duane

I always found sunbathing to be exceedingly boring.  I need to be doing something like hiking, walking, playing, etc. 

Bob
Me too.  And in the UK that means you don't really go brown unless you lie still and cook for hours.
John
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: nuduke on April 02, 2018, 12:21:44 AM

Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.
Duane

I always found sunbathing to be exceedingly boring.  I need to be doing something like hiking, walking, playing, etc. 

Bob
The nearest I ever get to sunbathing is reading.
Yes again - that's me too.  When I've got a good book or a crossword or something my tolerance to sitting about becomes much higher.  Looking at your picture with the long grass in front of you, JOhn, you do more reading than gardening!....very good thing too - I hate gardening.


Taking up Bob's point about laying out in the woods - I have to say that I find meditating (properly) is more of an active process and doesn't become boring so quickly as just lying in the sun doing nothing in my experience (which is quite small so far).  However sitting or lying in strong sunshine is not conducive to meditating I find.


John
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: eyesup on April 02, 2018, 02:44:25 AM
Generally, I don’t sunbathe simply for the sake of sunbathing, although I have done it when it has been too long between hikes. I have no problem at all with laying in the sun while out on a hike. That would make it part of the hike and I’m merely relaxing for a spell.

I have to be careful if I'm reading outside in the summer. If I'm laying on my back and holding the book above me, I've had the glued bindings on paperbacks come undone in the HEAT.

This has actually happened.

Duane
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on April 02, 2018, 05:38:59 AM
Me, too. Alwyas the good ones, too.

Then there is that positioning factor. On my back, my arms can go to sleep, on my side my neck can crick, on my belly, both.

I focus on my shoulders and nose for base coat at first because those burn quickest.
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: nuduke on April 08, 2018, 01:44:19 PM

You don't know how amazing that is to we Brits, Duane.
That it's hot enough to melt your book binding is the remotest, nay, most remote of possibilities in the UK and even in hot bits of europe I suspect.
However, it may equally be a consequence of the crappiness of US book production! :D
John
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on April 09, 2018, 08:23:37 PM
Some bindings are stronger than others, but I've had hardcover textbooks fail while studying in the sun.
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: eyesup on April 10, 2018, 08:49:11 PM
John, I know you were here for a spell, but as I recall you didn’t experience the true heat of the desert. Correct me if I am mistaken.

When out in it on a clear day, it is a total immersion. There is the sun, of course, but the heat is all around. It reflects, it radiates, the sun amplifies those sources that are around and under you. Even the shade is hot. There is the inevitable humorous segment in the ‘news’ where someone cooks an egg outdoors without a fire. The interior of a vehicle with dark paint can climb to above 135° F.

Crappy book bindings merely dissolve faster than the better quality ones. :D

Duane
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on April 11, 2018, 05:13:19 AM
In the sun.

It was way respectfully over 100F When Nuduke arrived in Scottsdale. We walked to the car in, briefly. We airconditioned to the restaurant. We walked briefly to the airconditioned eatery. Already the heat was disapating. It was calming down by the time we left. The temp on the golfcourse was lovely naked, the grass wonderful and cooled from its daily sunbaked hot.

So, I suppose he had a good five minutes of intense PHX heat. The kind of heat that no one lays out reading in, because they just find themselves staying in the pool. We treated it just like any sane Arizonan would. But don't leave your book in the sun.
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: eyesup on April 12, 2018, 06:28:53 AM
Well, I had to go and look and Nuduke was here in Vegas in Sept. of '14. Sept. can be hot but it is well past the HOT days of July & Aug.

No matter as PHX is usually 5-10 degrees hotter than here. So yeah, they got a good experience of it.

We need to coordinate another gathering somewhere! Preferably in the Spring or Fall.
Fun!

Duane
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on April 13, 2018, 04:33:36 AM
As I remember, it was at least over 105F as PHX usually is and September was just an extension of August.
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: eyesup on April 16, 2018, 11:51:53 PM
105° F can be rather pleasant under the right conditions. :-X
That's the temp we generally use as our cutoff for spending too much time outside.

Duane
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: HillwalkerDundee on January 14, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Naked hiking and swimming is something i have done ever since i was a youngster. I have been out walking the Sidlaws naked for five of the last seven days. This morning me and a couple of lads i know went for a naked hike lasting a few hours. I will be walking by myself tomorrow morning
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: jbeegoode on January 15, 2019, 09:34:10 PM
Weather is cold up there? How do you adapt to cold? Sounds nicely remote though.
An old castle and long views?
Jbee
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: nuduke on January 24, 2019, 01:55:21 PM

Wow HillwalkerDundee!
You must be a very hardy soul if the Dundee you refer to is in Scotland rather than South Africa or Illinois!...oh wait...Sidlaws are indeed Scotland!
Lots of interesting questions arise:  What temperatures were you hiking in?  Do you take any special precautions e.g. stopping to clothe to warm up for a bit (like Steve Gough did)?  I guess you keep fairly warm through the activity. 
What weather conditions do you look for and what conditions would you not go out in?
Do you ever have encounters?  How do others react if so?
John
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Davie on January 24, 2019, 02:42:58 PM
Lots of UK naturists walk in cold weather. I was out yesterday. The temperature was between 1 - 3 deg C. There was no wind and the sun was out. It was a bit parky out of the sun. Once in the sun being naked and keeping moving was the usual glorious sensation it usually is. The trick is to keep moving and ensure the extremities are not cold so I did keep a hat on and at times gloves. I had no encounters.

A few weeks ago just before Christmas I was walking in open moorland at an exposed 500 metres. I saw the mist coming down and it really was just that little bit too cold to be safely totally naked. I put on a light thermal shirt with long sleeves and shorts. I met quite a few people as I walked along a broad ridge. Most commented on my lack of clothes. Goodness knows what they would have said if I'd been naked. They'd probably called for the men in white coats. Without exception they were all wearing cagoules and long trousers. I did stop for a bite to eat and found that after a few minutes I needed another light layer.

We must be a hardy lot here with the Atlantic weather and even colder stuff from the North Pole and Siberia!

Davie  8)

Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Peter S on January 24, 2019, 03:43:26 PM
The Cotswolds were the Cotscolds on Tuesday, even had some snow mixed in with the rain at times. I clocked about four miles of a ten mile hile naked, like Davie I was in shorts and thin fleece the rest of the time and was congratulated on my hardiness - if they’d seen me the rest of the time ...

I find that I acclimatise quite quickly to the cold, and like Davie setting a brisk pace soon warms things up and up on the top of the wolds can be quite exhilarating.

The policeman who stopped by the car as I was getting dressed was very friendly, too, just wanted to check I was OK as people walking around naked was a bit unusual.
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Davie on January 24, 2019, 04:23:12 PM
Proves that the Police can care rather than just be officious. It seems that by and large we are getting thing right this side of the pond. The challenge is for the "New World" to take the UK as an example. BN are exhibiting at the National Camping, Caravanning and Motorhome show between the 19 - 24 February. Its good to see that we are, perhaps after long last, starting to preach to the unconverted.

Every one who accepts naturism, even if its not for them is one less to be aggressive when they see us out and about. I've started to carry BNs "What is naturism" leaflets in my rucksack. I haven't handed any out yet but I expect the day will come. "Like the Scouts I want to be "Be Prepared" they say

Davie  8)
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: Bob Knows on January 24, 2019, 04:32:53 PM
Good for BN.  I wish we had organizations this side of the pond who would promote free range naturism. 
Title: Re: New converts to FRN
Post by: BlueTrain on January 24, 2019, 05:15:20 PM
A local non-landed club has had a table at our county fair. I've never been to the fair, however, so that's the extent of what I know about it and I don't know if they had one last time or not.