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Free Range Naturism Forum => Suggestions => Topic started by: eyesup on March 14, 2018, 06:55:41 PM

Title: Comments
Post by: eyesup on March 14, 2018, 06:55:41 PM
This isn't a suggestion but a comment.

The site just rolled over to post #10,000.  I guess that would be a milestone of sorts.

This forum seems to be becoming more well known.

Duane
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: jbeegoode on March 15, 2018, 07:14:22 PM
ONly 10,000! Duane, 4,000 were posted by you and me!
Jbee
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: eyesup on March 16, 2018, 07:40:55 PM
Wow! I didn't see that!

Duane
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: eyesup on March 20, 2018, 10:09:59 PM
We also have over 200 members with only 43 having posted more than 10 times.
These account for more than 97% of the conversation.

Come on folks, there's gotta be something you can contribute!

Duane

Title: Re: Comments
Post by: nuduke on March 23, 2018, 11:04:41 PM

We are a select band of brothers here.  66% of posts are by Jbee, Duane, myself, Bob and JOhn.  I remember keeping track of TSNS stats where the same was true except. of those that transferred here only Ian Milfmog, mainly, figured large in TSNS whereas he has faded and wained in presence here.
I just hope that we continue to get fresh minds posting and new friends joining us and maybe some OLD FRIENDS rejoining the chats more regularly.


I often wonder who sees our output in addition to ourselves.  The top 5 topics have 326,489 views.  But this is deceptive.  It is my understanding, from doing the odd website project in my consulting practice, that the internet is pervaded by a 'white noise' of 'bots' from organisations good and ill that digitally search the web for their advertising, scamming and other parasitic activities.  Thus most of the views are not humans.


I often wish a few more of our infrequent posters would post more frequently but hey, who am I to dictate others' preferences. 


We should simply value the correspondence and fellowship we have.  I do at any rate.  I still enjoy the forum conversations even though I'm a little less frequently visiting these days.


John
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: jbeegoode on March 24, 2018, 01:18:37 AM
Yea, Nuduke. It is sometimes appears that you are getting the posts at snail mail rates. Well, Thomas Jefferson had correspondence letters that took months to get back and forth...but, don't anyone go there!!!
Jbee
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: Davie on March 24, 2018, 10:33:18 AM
Its common for a few to make the most posts. The 80/20 rule frequently applies. Its the same on Naturist Corner. It's also the case that sites start slowly and then grow. I don't post as frequently as perhaps I could, but I look at the site most days... and to be honest although retired I'm busier than ever and naturism, secret or not is not my only interest. Having said that this is a lovely site, still being informal and friendly and without heavy moderation. What is important is members treat each other with respect, don't call each out and enjoy posting. That's not to say debate shouldn't take place. Respectable debate is healthy.

The larger the site the more you have to regulate and control. Quantity isn't always everything. Sometimes getting what you thought might be good isn't for the best. This site reminds me of Naturist Corner in its early days, a bit rough around the edges, informal and fun. As it grew it became more organised, still a good site but more tightly controlled due to large numbers and a few "who try it on."

Davie  8)
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: BlueTrain on March 24, 2018, 12:44:02 PM
I don't know how select we are and if so, we're self-selected, sometimes self-appointed.

In other nude hiking forums I've belonged to, there was a distinct seasonal variation in the number of posts, which isn't surprising, although this is technically not a nude hiking forum. At least that isn't the name and there is no subsection with that title.

Unless you are the literary and philosophical type heavy with a message, there is a natural limit to what one can post. Even when you move from forum to forum, you only have a certain number of stories to tell and after that, all you can do is comment on other people's stores and comments until you go out and have more adventures, which I am waiting to do now, since there's still snow on the ground. We had snow this week, the first one with enough to shovel all winter long. In the meantime, almost all my nudity has been of the indoor variety and most of that has only been of the half-naked sort at that.
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: Peter S on March 24, 2018, 05:40:25 PM
Although it might appear to be JBee’s own section  ::) the Trip Reports sub section is sort of our hiking reports area, though the free-ranging here isn’t necessarily of the hiking kind. I hope to get some new reports in there now the weather’s (hopefully) warming up.
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: jbeegoode on March 27, 2018, 03:27:07 AM
Hot dang!

This week I'll post no trip report. There will be an article on desert nude gardening instead.... ;)
Jbee
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: eyesup on March 28, 2018, 11:18:03 PM
I haven’t been very active lately, so I am glad to be reading Jbee’s reports.
It keeps me inspired. :D

Keep’em coming!

Duane
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: jbeegoode on March 29, 2018, 07:11:20 AM
Its warming up there, too?
Jbee
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: nuduke on April 01, 2018, 11:22:42 PM

Its common for a few to make the most posts. The 80/20 rule frequently applies. Its the same on Naturist Corner. It's also the case that sites start slowly and then grow. I don't post as frequently as perhaps I could, but I look at the site most days... and to be honest although retired I'm busier than ever and naturism, secret or not is not my only interest. Having said that this is a lovely site, still being informal and friendly and without heavy moderation. What is important is members treat each other with respect, don't call each out and enjoy posting. That's not to say debate shouldn't take place. Respectable debate is healthy.

The larger the site the more you have to regulate and control. Quantity isn't always everything. Sometimes getting what you thought might be good isn't for the best. This site reminds me of Naturist Corner in its early days, a bit rough around the edges, informal and fun. As it grew it became more organised, still a good site but more tightly controlled due to large numbers and a few "who try it on."

Davie  8)


Wise counsel, Davie.  Yes I am sure the stats of posting or contribution are the same for any forum, society or functional group.   I agree too that too big a community loses its character. 


I like this forum a lot because we are mostly of an age and liberal outlook that maintains an enjoyable running conversation.  I'm afraid I'm a bit of an old silly and look back with happy nostalgia to my first faltering steps from about 2007 into naturism in nature where I was helped by and looked in on the conversations  of the 20 or so regular posters on The Secret Naturists Society (TSNS) with a sense of discovery and the joyous 'it's not-just-me' feeling.  Because I was learning the SN craft (as we used to term it) and looked in on what others did with a sense of wonder and potential, I guess I was much more absorbed.  I think you were there too, Davie. 


We used to have lots more regular reports of  naturist outings and discussions of Secret Naturism technique for hikes and how to avoid discovery.  I remember Hymie's walks before and after work on the building sites with some affection and Mark Yorksnaturem (if I remember right) woodland walks, milfmog's morning dog walks, the SOC hikes, Alf's camping weekends, Dave Balead's bike rides and secreted woodland sunbathing furniture, eyesup's desert wanderings and Larry Tanman's barn/garage adventures.  More latterly JOhnGW's canal trips and Jbee's adventures have been the mainstay of reports with some notable other contributions but as you say, you can only report the same sort of trip so many times and indeed my woodland wanderings are less frequent these days and indeed more recent descriptions have merely repeated stuff I have already contributed.
And indeed, as you rightly aver, there are many threads in one's life and recreation that unavoidably can't be done naked and naturism has to fit duly in to a hopefully pleasantly busy and active life.


But the good news is we continue to chat and digress and return and enjoy each others' correspondence in the positive manner you describe and indeed, the majority of topics start with at least some connection to our common naturist interest.  So long may that continue.


It occurs to me that we haven't thanked Stuart and Karla lately for their hospitality and for rescuing us from possible oblivion when Lookee's site went tits up (incredibly this was 6 years ago, I think!!).  Thank you sincerely Stuart & Karla ('bout time you did another munro, kids! :D )


Nostalgically
John
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: yeldew on April 02, 2018, 10:40:18 AM
Wow!!
Memories are made of this  :) :) :)
Norman.
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: BlueTrain on April 02, 2018, 12:40:06 PM
Having been a contributing member of a few other forums and now this one, I think it is interesting how forums seem to develop personalities of their own. And that is in spite of what is typically an overlap in membership. Even when a given thread starts out on a certain topic under a specific title in two different forums, they still manage to go off in different directions, same as ordinary face to face conversations. I think that's good. Another reason that happens is because the membership isn't exactly the same and maybe not even close. Besides, they may not be happening at the same time anyway. Either way, that's okay. I think the posts, or at least the replies to an original post, should be in a conversational style. This isn't a debating forum, I don't think.

I'm not always interested in every subject when I look through the topics and some that are more geographically-oriented, like posts about hiking in Arizona or California, I may read but generally won't comment on because I live somewhere else. Curiously, there aren't so many about things in the Eastern U.S. that have jumped out at me, although maybe there in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: eyesup on May 05, 2018, 02:18:03 AM
Logged on this morning and was just poking around because not much was posted in the last few hours.

With regard to the above post about the 10,000 mark on total posts if you look at the “More Stats” page and add up the top 10 viewed topics it’s almost half-million. And that’s only the top 10. The whole site is probably well over a million views.

EmmPressive!

So, I was looking at my member profile at some of the tracked data. If you click on your username you will be directed to the “Summary” of the member profile. Click on “Stats”, below the member icon and you will see the info of your activity displayed. One of the lists shown is “Most Popular Boards By Activity”.

I would have thought it would be a description of how my activity is distributed on the site, but if I add up the percentages, it’s over 100%. So what does that list represent? Am I reading this wrong?

Hmmmm.

I can also see what time of day I am most likely online. Sort of interesting especially if you are looking for those that are nocturnal. Don’t forget that the times shown are offset to the timezone in the UK. Otherwise I would be a night owl by Pacific Time Zone reckoning.

If you randomly select a member you are unfamiliar with and if they have yet to post anything, you would expect to see something like,  “This member has yet to post.” Implying that there is a hope and expectation to hear from them.

Instead, the lists regarding the posting data have this announcement displayed,

“No posts to speak of !”

That doesn’t exactly mean that they haven’t posted anything does it? ;) It’s more of a commentary. Not very uplifting. :D Oh well, back to the day’s activities!

Duane
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: eyesup on October 21, 2018, 11:33:17 PM
The 1st post on this thread noted that the site had rolled over to 10,000 posts on or about March 14, 2018, 06:55:41 PM.

I noticed that Jbee’s post in “Crabbing Trip” on October 17, 2018, 10:43:17 AM, was the 12,000th.
That’s 216.66 days, or 5,199.79 hrs. since the 10,000 th , which is 2.60 posts/hr. Whoopee!

The oldest post on the site seems to be; Forum Rules: on: July 25, 2013, 06:54:47 PM {Administrator}
To the 10,000th post that is 1,693.00 days and 40,632.02 hrs., which is 4.06 posts/hr.
To the 12,000th post that is 1,909.66 days and 45,831.81 hrs., which is 3.82 posts/hr.

So the posting rates over time seem to trend down in frequency. My guess is that this is normal for most sites. If there were a way to analyze the info here the graph would probably be up and down as new members join, but trending downward.

Unless it’s simply a distribution artifact because of the longer time the site has been up and running.
I suppose that at some point everything that can be said has been said by the current group.
More newbies are needed (active newbies that is).

Duane
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: nuduke on October 24, 2018, 08:37:24 PM

Well done, Duane!
A man after my own heart for pointless stats!
You are right to be confused by the personal stats, my own count on Most Popular Boards by Activity is only 74% ish and yours is 140% ish.  So indeed it isn't clear what that stat means.  Could I hazard a guess that it means that your posts in that topic account for x% of the total posts in that topic.  I think you were assuming that the stat meant the proportion of just your total posts in that topic.  Obviously that's not right as neither of us add up to 100%. 


Stuart?  Karla?  Any comment on that?


I believe also that we can't rely on the number of views being real.  In my, admittedly limited, experience of managing website development projects, I did learn that there are many, many hits on every website from search engines, bots, web crawlers and search programmes looking for targets to inject malware, search for content and the like.  Probably the vast majority of the so called views are in fact somebody's software, that scans the web day and night for some target that it is seeking.   There doesn't seem to be any reliable way of judging which hits are people and of those people, who are interested (i.e. that might have read something rather than that the website just appeared in one of the results from a search term).  I wish I knew more but I suspect that real views are only a minority of the total views of the site.  I don't think the number really matters if we manage to bring just a little joy to our community with our inchoate scrawlings! :)
John


John
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: John P on October 27, 2018, 08:10:57 PM
It seems that my thread about the Naked European Walking Tour was topic number 1000 on Freerangenaturism:

http://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php?topic=1000.0

I'd have claimed some glory for that if I'd noticed at the time, but I didn't see it until later. Can I have the glory now?

Title: Re: Comments
Post by: jmf on October 27, 2018, 09:16:16 PM
. Can I have the glory now?

Yes, of course
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: Peter S on October 28, 2018, 07:22:42 AM
👏👍👌✌️🤗⭐️🌈⛄️🍎🥇
Title: Re: Comments
Post by: eyesup on October 30, 2018, 08:51:10 PM
Sointly, JohnP! Better late than never! But go for it. We all do our part.

Ahh! I see how you figured out the 1000th post?
I just happened to notice the post count when Jbee was the last post on the list. I didn’t have to count anything.

Duane