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Naturism => General Naturism Discussion => Topic started by: jbeegoode on August 21, 2021, 07:34:16 AM

Title: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: jbeegoode on August 21, 2021, 07:34:16 AM
I choose carefully the first time, then take care of clothing, making sure that it is washed gently to last longer. When it is actually worn out, it becomes often old stuff to work in and then finally rags. There is ultimately little waste, I don't wear clothing very often, so it last longer, fewer washes is much less pollution and water wasting. I'm pretty good about it, I get no flack for how I dress when I do.

BUT, here is the rest of the world's effects on the rest of the world. Those togs ain't biodegradable. They pollute, they blacken skies, the stuff lays around like nuclear half life in huge dumps.
Clothing culture is just a very bad thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB3kuuBPVys

Not green very impracticable and hugely wasteful.

I'm going to go get some of the throw-aways from the Good Will store. I have grass that is out of control and competing with my trees for water and soil. I'm told that a layer of cloth with mulch placed over it will suffocate the grass and weeds. It isn't organic but it controls a problem for the trees.
Jbee
Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: Bob Knows on August 21, 2021, 04:41:23 PM
I read an article that clothing production worldwide has doubled in the past 10 years or so, particularly in Asia.   At the same time the market for used or recycled clothing has mostly evaporated.  There used to be a processing company in India that shredded old clothes and made economical blankets that were marketed in many countries, but most people can now afford new blankets so that market has mostly dried up too.   

Much of the world doesn't wear out their clothes.  They buy new fashions after wearing the old clothes only a few times.  Its a huge environmental problem and rapidly getting worse.

As for covering grass.  I have read that matted down grass forms a kind of thatch that tends to prevent ground water from drying out.   In semi-arid lands they are no using herds of grass eater to trample and fertilize the grass and then move on before it all gets eaten.  That has resulted in more grass, and more bushes, trees, etc.   I suppose that used clothing would function like trampled grass to slow evaporation.  But so would the grass. 

Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: jbeegoode on August 22, 2021, 01:55:41 AM
Used clothing won't steal all of the nutrients from my trees tree wells.

I'm letting it go in other places.
 I think that Covid lockdowns have probably hit the fashion industry. There is less need for clothing, with people at home to work and no ability to party of bar hop or have outfits for school. I think that these are good habits and hope that people continue to care less about fashion. And then there are those home nudists that have been created.
Jbee
Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: nuduke on August 28, 2021, 11:11:41 PM
I think that Covid lockdowns have probably hit the fashion industry. There is less need for clothing, with people at home to work .... And then there are those home nudists that have been created.
Jbee
There have been numerous press and media reports following British Naturism's announcement a month or three ago that their new member sign-ups have been booming during lockdown.  Much speculation in the articles (with very little evidence) that people are discovering home naturism because it doesn't matter what you wear working at home.  I also think there's some truth in that as you aver, Jbee.
John
Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: jbeegoode on August 29, 2021, 08:21:14 PM
Booming membership! That is good evidence. How do  see that article?

Stuck at home. Clothing stops making sense. Need of sense of release someway from being cooped up. Discovering pleasure and practicality of home nudity. Consideration of getting out of the house and outdoors, without the clothes becomes a less harmful concept. Interest in naturism is sparked. We need to get to these people before the prudes get their claws of guilt and fear back into them. ::)

How do I get at that article? There must be a similar effect in USA, if it holds up.  I notice that my website dropped off some when things began to loosen up. The interest might wain, but the memory and lesson most likely remain.

We visited a sod house and a few pioneer homes, during our road trip. Families were living in small often one room places. Privacy and Victorian propriety would make no sense.

My parents weren't too far from those generations. Their practicality kept nudity within the family and nude bodies as matter of fact. It was and is an attitude. Kansas has no anti-nudity law as a State. People would tend to drop formality when they spend more time with each other. Their dad, or mom who come home after being costumed all day, and the kids from costume teaching schools and suddenly, the costumes are just a pain in the butt. They don't necessarily get nude, but kids see parents in a more casual attire all day, not as being dressed up all day, like before. It must have had some affect. So, I figure more than suspect that there has been a subtle revolution in attitudes across a spectrum.

It can be fun to dress up in those nice clothes that you couldn't wear forever. Which way that that goes will be curious, especially fashion maker's reactions. I'm seeing smaller costumes on women this summer. Dressed up to look nice, but casual. Dresses are more comfortable, tights, very short shorts, loose tops. Lots of thongs. It may correlate as an accelerator toward the inevitable whittling down of clothing and socially acceptable degrees of bodily coverings.
Jbee
Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: nuduke on September 07, 2021, 05:21:13 PM
It wasn't a particular article, Jbee but I came across a rash of them from the mid-end of last year.  here are a couple of links:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8315303/More-people-trying-naturism-lockdown.html
https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/19387000.bucks-naturist-club-sees-record-rise-membership-enquires-lockdown-eases/
https://headtopics.com/uk/there-s-nothing-weird-about-being-naked-inside-the-lockdown-naturism-boom-15367708
to name but a few.  What's interesting is that the stat from BN got wide press coverage.  They must be doing something right!

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Their practicality kept nudity within the family and nude bodies as matter of fact. It was and is an attitude
Does that mean your family was naturist when you were growing up?  If so that helps explain your command of the lifestyle today.

Re: the remarks you made on clothing, I was in London for the first time for 3 years on Sunday last and the weather was pretty warm (for England!) I noted (with not a little pleasure!!  ::) :o ) that the current fashions were for extremely short skirts, naked legs, open sandals and often a skimpy top.  So young women seeking less and less clothing that you opine seems to hold true for London at least.  In the interests of balance I also have to observe that the young men were often similarly attired in shorts and t shirt or singlet.  I have to say though, that if I was an attractive young chap or girl I would not wear such revealing fashions in central London, not because I'd be concerned for my safety or embarrassed to do so but that London is so dirty and adulterated by the ill-washed masses of humanity, that pass through it, that I wouldn't wish to expose my skin to the perpetually grubby environment - such things as underground rail seats, park benches, restaurant chairs and public toilets.  Young women don't seem to mind (or maybe they don't sit or pee!!! :D) You continental Americans are much cleaner and more hygienic on the whole (although that only goes for my experience of mid to southern USA and Canada.  I ain't been to New York or Chicago.  Maybe they are the same?)
John
Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: jbeegoode on September 09, 2021, 03:38:49 AM



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    Their practicality kept nudity within the family and nude bodies as matter of fact. It was and is an attitude

Nuduke: "Does that mean your family was naturist when you were growing up?  If so that helps explain your command of the lifestyle today."

Dad slept nude. The family seeing each other dressing, or in a bathroom was normal. Mom had me in the tub with her till probably five years old,or so.

My grandparents allowed me to sleep with them until around ten give or take. I was shocked when I saw my grandmothers breast removed. She had grandpa take me downstairs to show me how to shower instead of a bathtub. It was a men's thing, of sorts.

When my dad got his first swimming pool, he dove in naked...once. Mom wouldn't, she grinned and then laid down the law.

That's just family and mid-western practicality. Pretty common stuff, one generation removed from living in homesteads, farms and as settlers.

Naturism! Oh heck no. When we came back from St. Martin from our honeymoon, we mentioned to mom that there was a nude resort on the other side of the peninsula. She was aghast with concern, "Did they keep them fenced in? Was that safe?"

We of course hid the facts, that that is where we spent all of our days for two weeks.

Jbee
Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: nuduke on September 17, 2021, 12:00:17 AM

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We of course hid the facts, that that is where we spent all of our days for two weeks.
;D ;D ;D
John

Title: Re: Where does it end? Old clothing
Post by: jbeegoode on September 17, 2021, 08:55:14 AM
 Yes, keep 'em caged up to protect us from the wild and dangerous. And here I am attempting to open the gates allowing them to get out and get us all!
jbee