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Title: At Long Last!!
Post by: nuduke on May 29, 2016, 12:54:30 AM
I haven't started a new thread for a long time but today was special and I just wanted to bring to your attention that I had some naked hiking today!

Those of you who have followed my exploits in recent months will know that despite relocation to more rural circumstances, I have been somewhat frustrated by the lack of places that I can get naked in nature, albeit that my opportunity for garden and domestic naturism has been much increased.  The terrain is very flat in the whole county and woodland is very scarce, roads plentiful but parking on the narrow country roads often difficult or impossible and in summary despite a deal of ranging and recces, I haven't found a good place or places to hike or sunbathe skyclad yet....until today.

What happened was that, being a lovely spring day, intermittent sunny periods and light cloud, warm but not hot and no appointments or obligations... I decided to get on my rickety old electric bike and see how far it would take me on a battery charge.  For these purposes, a flat terrain is good. I cycled a mile or two to a commercial fishing lake I have been meaning to look over for months.  It was a really nice location and my subtext was to see if there was any naked walking potential.  It was a well-used facility and although a very nice locale which I will visit for some fishing, there was no woodland or brush to get concealed in and about a third of the perimeter was bordered by a camp site for caravans (not great for fishing ambience either).  Having chatted with a couple of fishermen and watched one pull out 3 crucian carp and 2 small tench in under 20 minutes, I determined to return with tackle.

Mounting again my trusty steed, I cycled on  in the effulgent sunshine through the next village and on into the deeper countryside where the road narrowed to a single track with absolutely no room for 2 vehicles to pass but sufficiently well made for me to be able to cycle safely and easily.  2 lady 'proper' cyclists passed me coming from the other direction and we exchanged greetings.  Eventually the road came to a ford across the local river.  Fords are an extreme rarity in the UK so I stopped to look over the bucolic scene.  Having appreciated that for a few minutes, I noted that where I had parked my bike was an ungated field entrance so, ever alive to possibilities of getting naked, I pulled my bike off the road and strolled but a few yards up a slight incline along the riverbank bordering the field.

As I stood there I noted that the road the other side of the ford was unmade so it was unlikely that any vehicles actually used the ford and indeed one could see a parralel road a few hundred yards away.  In the opposite direction there was a cluster of farm buildings and the rest of the vista was fields as far as the eye could see.  My SN risk calculator activated:  I could see for miles, I was out of sight of cars passing on the road which were very few, I could see the hardly-used road from whence I came and so I had a 360 degree surveillance.  The grass was tall at the edge of the field I stood in, there were a few trees and the chances of anyone approaching from about 300 of the 360 degrees was nil. 

I was prepared.  I had my zip-pocket hiking trousers on and a backpack.  So, I was able to strip off.  I had donned socks and walking shoes as a parallel precaution should I get the chance of some nice hiking which were a nuisance but not too much of a problem.  I was able to stand and sit sunbathing for a while and I rejoiced that I had finally got a decent chance to be naked in nature AND that I had taken it despite the usual taboos of being careful in a new location.

The river gurgled, the grass swished in the light breeze and the insects buzzed and chirped.  I sat comfortable on the dry, grassy earth and was filled for a moment with a joy of a return to SN after a very long gap.  At not very long length, perhaps 15' I re-robed and returned to my hapless conveyance.

As well as the ford there was a narrow footbridge over the river and with some care needed I walked my bike to the other side, 'scrambled' the 1-200 yards along the unmade dirt track to the road and was thereby able to make a circular trip home rather than have to retrace my initial journey.  Happily, my battery lasted the distance and the ride back was even pleasanter with the warm glow of having had some nude time and the knowledge that I will go there again soon (with a packed lunch and a book!).

John
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on May 29, 2016, 02:49:51 AM
You were prepared for a spontaneous SN walk.
That's what we used to call good "SN craft".

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: reubenT on May 29, 2016, 07:03:36 AM
everyone needs a place to go and relax,   and for we who like to do it free of clothing it's a bit harder to locate the right place sometimes.    Glad you found such a place.   I have mine and will be developing them better soon, since it's on my own land and I can modify it to my liking.   First will be clearing suitable places for gardening nude,  then will be making support facilities,  water features,   shelters,   and in time greenhouses.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on May 29, 2016, 09:57:15 AM
So, the difficulty of parking on the thin roads has kept your options to a minimum. A non-electric bicycle can be used to get you from a safe parking place to one of these areas where there is naturism potential and you just stash your bike in the bushes. No one will be parking near you. All you need is a bike rack and bike. Good exercise and good excuse to get away from the Mrs. Nuduke for some SN. I used to ride my bike for hours. Otherwise, you have the electric bike with enough range to get to skinny roads in the near region. There is actually sunshine where you live and it is summer!

I was given a used bike rack last month and I'm watching the University of Arizona auction for the bikes. Each year, many bikes are abandoned in the racks around campus by students. They sell them reasonably cheap, maybe a decent nearly new bike at around $39 to $50. I love to bike. There is a river park path near DF's place in town that connects all over Tucson and other river paths. There are dirt back roads in Tortolita.

Congratulations on your find and sense of liberation. Very kool. Please, continue as it unfolds.
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: Davie on May 29, 2016, 10:03:31 AM
We all need those special places to achieve some escape from modern life. For me its the Peak District and into Wales. My wife sometimes
 asks if I get lonely on solo walks misunderstanding the difference between loneliness and solitude. It's wonderful having space for yourself, although group naturist can be enjoyable too.

Davie   8)
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: ric on May 29, 2016, 10:10:04 AM
rural england is awash with footpaths and untarmacced tracks, all should be marked on large scale ordenance survey maps, now available to browse online. a lot of river banks have somesort of footpath, most of these paths are little used , especially during weekdays,  miss the morning and evening dog walkers and fitness freaks and youve got the place to yourself
 in recent years theres been the creation of loads of nature reserves usually run by charitable trusts,   the woodland trust, english nature, county wildlife trusts etc and even county councils.
local to us we have a small green burial ground run by a charitable trust, but it also manages about 15 acres of pasture as a nature reserve, all has free public access, i mow the the grass paths(usually naked) and rarely see anyone in the actual burial ground and never in the adjacent pasture fields.
if you do see someone working in the fields on a tractor theyre normally too focussed on what theyre doing to notice walkers in the distance .

first step is research on the web youll find places that youd never  physically stumble accross.

Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nudewalker on May 29, 2016, 03:50:23 PM
Some of the local abandoned rail lines around these parts have been converted into trails for hiking and biking plus some adjacent land has been set aside as conservancy areas not to be developed. Along the corridor that connects the next town to the east there are a number of sidings that serviced mines and a few small businesses that catered to the mines, employees and families. Most are overgrown but a few of the open pit mines are now covered in ATV trails that get their use on weekends. By cycling a few miles out of town there are a number of places to practice our craft in relative safety. The only problem so far is while riding in full cycling gear (bibs, jersey and cleated shoes) what does one do with all this stuff once off the bike and naked. I have tried packing it into the camelback, or taking another drawstring bag and leaving it with the bike. Not satisfied with either option at the moment but haven't really given it a thought until now. Before the trail was finished one could ride a good section naked so with the bibs and jersey in the back pack that wasn't as bad. Thanks Nuduke, the wheels are turning in the brain to think of options and as Jbee noted keep us posted!
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: balead on May 29, 2016, 09:58:10 PM
Nice John. You've learnt, or at least put into practice, the fact that a bike can go where a vehicle can't and open country is often more suitable than woodland. I hope you get to spend longer periods of time there while feeling comfortably naked.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on May 29, 2016, 10:14:25 PM
Quote from: nudewalker
I have tried packing it into the camelback, or taking another drawstring bag and leaving it with the bike. Not satisfied with either option at the moment but haven't really given it a thought until now.

Bring a lightweight wraparound or shorts to carry while hiking and some comfortable footwear and cache your clothes in the drawstring somewhere hidden so they don't get stolen. Lock the bike up if you think it necessary. Then off you go prepared to cover up when needed. All you need carry is you daypack and quick change clothes.

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nuduke on May 29, 2016, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: ric
miss the morning and evening dog walkers and fitness freaks and youve got the place to yourself

During the early spring, I had much less time than I thought to recce locations (including wasting good SN hiking time holidaying in Florida!!) and this trip was the start of 'deeper' local investigation which followed many observations whilst driving.  You may remember my earlier reports of recces including a disappointing visit to some lakes, which offered no real SN possibilities.  I think your guidance is wise, Ric.  I need to time it either like Ian - very early, or to avoid the doggy exercise 'rush hour' by walking mid morning to mid afternoon (which suits my body clock a bit better - mind you, I also intend to do some dawn walking next month when dawn is really early between 4-5am). 

As to reconnaissance, I bought a bespoke OS map centring on our village so I can 'radiate' outwards and find places. I also have done exploratory walks along our local riverbanks (Local = 10-15' walk from home to find) earlier in the year, with which to equate to SN conditions - let us call these 'c'. The time and place of the walk had to fulfil a couple of conditions to equate to c, that is a = Weather ok and b = out of peak dog walking times.  However a. oddly seemed never to arise other than on weekends and bank holidays during times which were not b. !  So I was unable to gain the ideal c=a+b equation sufficiently to gauge reliably whether the walkers I encountered not infrequently on these convenient local locations were out more usually at peak days/times of the week.  However, I hope to be entering a rather quieter period for me, less busy, so offering more opportunity for further local recces at times which fulfil b.  And who knows, maybe a recce will be evidently a+b and so become c=SN!

Now then, chaps, how many times in the hallowed annals of TSNS or FRN have we had an algebraic solution to the argument?  :D

John
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on May 30, 2016, 12:28:00 AM
Hmmm, from language of Shakespeare to the language of Math. What's left? Love? Zulu? My translator, dictionary and calculator are now at hand. Let'r rip.
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on May 30, 2016, 03:49:35 PM
Take care, John, you don't get so immersed in the calculus you lose the big picture.  :)
Sometimes things don't add up because you're trying to reach a predetermined answer.   :(

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nudewalker on May 30, 2016, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: nudewalker
I have tried packing it into the camelback, or taking another drawstring bag and leaving it with the bike. Not satisfied with either option at the moment but haven't really given it a thought until now.

Bring a lightweight wraparound or shorts to carry while hiking and some comfortable footwear and cache your clothes in the drawstring somewhere hidden so they don't get stolen. Lock the bike up if you think it necessary. Then off you go prepared to cover up when needed. All you need carry is you daypack and quick change clothes.

Duane

The clothing is not so much of the problem as the footwear can be since there are clipless pedals on the bike it means a change between riding and hiking. I lock the bike to a tree and it is quite far off the beaten path so to speak. As I mentioned there has not been much thought lately but it has to be revisited. Maybe just spandex shorts instead of bibs and a lighter jersey? Even thought of water shoes to hike in or even flip flops for walking. As for a cover, it wasn't necessary last time I made it out there however things do change year to year.

All this math talk had me thinking back to my college statistics classes and using the same technique to determine the probability of being naked on any given outdoor adventure. In my line of work we used the elimination of variables to determine the overall quality of a finished product. It is a bit complicated to go into here but if the variables are eliminated such as weather, population, location and such the probability of a naked hike would be could fall within three standard deviations of the mean or 99.7%.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: Bob Knows on May 31, 2016, 01:33:30 PM
The clothing is not so much of the problem as the footwear can be since there are clipless pedals on the bike it means a change between riding and hiking.

When I was younger my bicycle had hard rubber foot pedals suitable for bare feet (or shoes).  I've never been hard core bicycle person to get the special clip on shoes.  Seems like the hard rubber pedals and bare feet would suit your mixed mode needs better than changing shoes and having to hide the other ones. 
 

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I lock the bike to a tree and it is quite far off the beaten path so to speak. As I mentioned there has not been much thought lately but it has to be revisited. Maybe just spandex shorts instead of bibs and a lighter jersey? Even thought of water shoes to hike in or even flip flops for walking. As for a cover, it wasn't necessary last time I made it out there however things do change year to year.


For some years I would hide my clothes under or behind a fallen log a ways off the beaten path, and away from vehicles.  Later i just started leaving my clothes in my car, putting the key behind or on the top of a tire.  It depends on where you park. Now my bicycle has a pack so when riding naked I put my clothes in that.

Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: JOhnGw on May 31, 2016, 10:13:42 PM
My solution to the hidden key problem (in my case for locking a rented bicycle) is to buy a very small dog collar of the type used on lap dogs. It is easy to clip a single key to it and used as a wristband it is minimal enough for me.
I even go swimming in it.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on May 31, 2016, 11:34:51 PM
Rhinestones, diamonds or spikes? :D
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: reubenT on June 01, 2016, 10:27:04 PM
as I recall from many years ago,  riding a bicycle barefoot has it's serious risks.   scraping the ground,   hitting weeds.  (with thorns)    I never tried the clip shoe type and always thought I wouldn't like them since with off road cycling a very quick foot movement for support is occasionally needed and I don't want them tied down in any way.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 02, 2016, 01:56:59 AM
Feet slipping off the pedal, usually happened when racing someone. If you were barefoot you ended up with no skin on the end of your big toe.

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: Bob Knows on June 02, 2016, 06:06:55 AM
I rode my bicycle barefoot all summer for several years from about age 7 to age 14.  I wore out several sets of pedals, bearings, tires, etc.  I never had troubles with my feet slipping off.  That's kind of silly.  Bare feet won't slip off any more than shoe feet.  Feet don't slip off the pedals. that's kind of silly.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 03, 2016, 01:33:23 AM
Rode my bike from the 1st or 2nd grade until I started driving. Same bike for 9-10 yrs.
Wore. . . it . . . out!

Clearly you never explored all the myriad ways a bicycle can be utilized.
There were so many more than merely pedaling from pt. A to pt. B.

If we were to have a race, how close can we put the finish line to that without hitting it?
If we ride as fast as we can, can we make it to the top of that pile of dead trees and clippings?
How many can we get on one bike?
How fast can you pedal while sitting on the rear bumper?
Can you ride a bike down the creek bed?
How fast can you pedal, and steer, while sitting backwards on the crossbar?
How far can you make it while standing on the seat?
From the top of the hill, can you guide the bike all the way home without touching the handlebars?
How high can you get the bike in the air using this ramp?

I'm sure I've not remembered all of them. Not accepting a challenge was worse than having an accident.
Yeah, pretty silly stuff!  :D
But a lotta fun!

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on June 03, 2016, 01:45:43 AM
I don't understand the clip shoes, or being nailed to the seat, or wearing a cushion in my crotch instead of a springy cushioned seat (hmmm maybe those pants are better in a wreck). I've had several bikes since I was six. Wheelys, no hands, jumping, sliding to a stop, dirt back roads and trails, I want to be able to put a foot down and stand up. I don't like riding on the street. It's too mindless and putting my life in the hands of someone else is uncomfortable. Sidewalks are more fun. No more street bikes.
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 03, 2016, 02:06:46 AM
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Wheelys, no hands, jumping, sliding to a stop, dirt back roads and trails, I want to be able to put a foot down and stand up.

Ohh, yeah!

Dismounting the bike while riding to see how far it will go on it's own.  ;D
Who can lay down the longest skid marks from top speed. Sliding sideways, no hand brakes. Pedal brakes you could stand on!

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: Bob Knows on June 03, 2016, 06:00:24 PM

Clearly you never explored all the myriad ways a bicycle can be utilized.
There were so many more than merely pedaling from pt. A to pt. B.

If we were to have a race, how close can we put the finish line to that without hitting it?

Not that one.


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If we ride as fast as we can, can we make it to the top of that pile of dead trees and clippings?

Rode through piles of leaves, but we lived in a desert so dead trees, not so much.

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How many can we get on one bike?

Eventually the fenders got so beat up we left them off.  One on the handle bars and one on the seat is about max.

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How fast can you pedal while sitting on the rear bumper?

My bike didn't have a rear bumper.  You can't get far sitting on the tire.

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Can you ride a bike down the creek bed?

Irrigation canals when dry. 

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How fast can you pedal, and steer, while sitting backwards on the crossbar?

I don't think I tried that either.  Standing up, but not facing backward.

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How far can you make it while standing on the seat?

I did try standing feet on the seat.  Bare feet are good for that.

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From the top of the hill, can you guide the bike all the way home without touching the handlebars?

We would ride around town, pedaling up and down, without using the handlebars.  Just lean to steer.   We would also sometimes put our feet on the handle bars and steer with our feet.  You couldn't pedal with your feet up though so it didn't last very long. 

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How high can you get the bike in the air using this ramp?

I grew up before the "banana" bikes and BMX trick bikes.  We would occasionally get air off bumps on the sidewalks and other places.


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I'm sure I've not remembered all of them. Not accepting a challenge was worse than having an accident.

My favorite arrival at home was to come fast down the street, enter our front yard through the neighbor's driveway, lock the back brake, do a 180 degree drifting turn across the lawn, and skid to a stop right in front of the porch steps.  There was a space about 2 inches wide between the concrete front walk and our wooden steps where my tires would drop into.  That would hold the bike up like a stand, and pointing back toward the direction of my friends house from which I had come. 

Then there was jumping off the bike while its moving.  Letting it go on its own around a large circle and leaping on again as it comes by. 

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Yeah, pretty silly stuff!  :D
But a lotta fun!

Duane

Yep.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: Bob Knows on June 03, 2016, 06:02:24 PM

Ohh, yeah!

Dismounting the bike while riding to see how far it will go on it's own.  ;D

We would let the bike to in a circle and jump back on when it came by.   


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Who can lay down the longest skid marks from top speed. Sliding sideways, no hand brakes. Pedal brakes you could stand on!
Duane

My bike had "New Departure" back wheel only brake. Wore out a lot of tires with the skids.

Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on June 03, 2016, 06:26:10 PM
When I was about 12, I was living in Paris. I searched the basement storage of every apartment in L'Petite Bourguard. I found a rusty old extended 20" frame and a couple of wheels. I cleaned and oiled and painted it a rich sky blue. Even got a decal from a model car kit. I ordered a banana seat and thick, but not knobby, tires from Sears Catalog for skidding. I had the coolest bike in the neighborhood and probably the only BMX/Scrambler style bike in the whole of Paris. It wasn't a bike, it was where I lived. About two weeks before I moved, it was stolen...crushing.

Biking has been a quicker more efficient way to get to some remote places than hiking, a sort of poor man's 4x4 and exercise for me. It has mostly been an in the moment, in the dirt, toy to play with. It is something that is limited as a nude conveyance, but will get me to "the spot".

I never rode that one naked. So where's the nude bike riding (NBR) thread?
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 04, 2016, 01:11:38 AM
I'm sure there is at least one here that does that.

Duane
 
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nuduke on June 04, 2016, 11:44:03 PM
Quote from: eyesup
If you were barefoot you ended up with no skin on the end of your big toe.

Even sitting in my office at the computer that one made my legs turn to jelly and feel quite nauseous for a moment there!

John
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: JOhnGw on June 05, 2016, 12:23:05 AM
I'm sure there is at least one here that does that.

Duane
Me for a start. (https://vimeo.com/45652125)
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: milfmog on June 06, 2016, 03:28:25 PM
I use SPD pedals (that's Shimano-speak for a "clipless pedal", which as all cyclists know is one that your shoes clip into... You realise just how stupid all the names are when you write them down).

In case you lost the thread there, I'll try again; my cycling shoes clip to my pedals. This is a superb system and has never prevented my footing if required but does completely eliminate the risk of a foot sliding off the pedals. For me, naked cycling is usually not barefoot as clipless pedals are not barefoot friendly.

However, I also have a pair of old rubber pedals on which I have mounted a Shimano clip. These can be fitted to the bike if I want to use everyday footwear at my destination and do not want to carry shoes; naturally, they can also be used barefoot.

                                                                                                       

Now, back to the original topic. (Should I have written "And now for something completely different"?)

John,

Good to learn that you have finally found a spot that will work for a little free range naturism. They are out there. I have walked naked a couple of times in the county of your new residence. In fact, I can't think of an occasion when I have walked in the county and not been naked at least part of the time! Keep looking, you will find plenty more opportunities.

A large part of the trick is to be ready, my walking wrap is ideal as I can remove it (or replace it) with little effort so am far more able to make use of quick chances to get naked knowing that if I need to cover up I can. It is remarkable how often I am able to go far further than I imagine will be possible when I first strip off. My recent caching walk in Denmark is a fine example. The site is a well use park / nature reserve with a reasonable car park and plenty of well maintained and used trails. When I arrived, at around 15:00 on a beautiful Sunday afternoon, there were about 20 parked cars. I walked a couple of hundred yards from the car park to the first cache and, since I was a little way off the main path, stripped off to look for the cache. I then continued to the next cache, and the one after that. Over the next hour, I spotted about half a dozen other walkers or walkers groups and was easily able to cover up before I was seen. After that I saw no one for two and a half hours and just stayed naked, knowing that, should someone appear I could quickly dress. Had I been wearing shorts or trousers on arrival I would not have been half as confident of a quick cover up if required and so would have missed three and a half hours of glorious naked walking. I had a very similar experience last year in Morkery Woods (about half an hour from you?). Just another example of fortune favouring the prepared...

Have fun in your new spot, but do not stop looking for others,


Ian.

Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nudewalker on June 06, 2016, 04:06:10 PM
Memories! I often get a chuckle on social media when posts are made to the effect "if you rode your bike with out a helmet, didn't have a car seat, or your home wasn't childproof then share if you survived!". Bumps, bruises and scrapes were all a part of my cycling adventures before the coveted drivers license. We were lucky that one of our fathers was a certified welder and fixed many a broken steel frame!

I'm happy to see all the input from everyone concerning the pedal problems I had explained from a few years before. Before the trail was completed and soon after the rails and ties were removed the rail bed was passable using a all terrain bike. There was a stretch of about five miles that one was able to ride naked without chance of any encounters and I did it quite often for a few summers. I did not return to the scene of my naked hiking area last year mostly due to enjoying the kayak so much. I plan on doing a tune up soon and returning as I try to get my cycling shape back.

Now to return to "At long last". We finally managed to get the RV (caravan) out of winter storage in an attempt to escape the din of the mating cicadas! Being a weekend in a popular park the thought of any naked time was on the back burned plus there are always those pesky problems that crop up on the first trip of the year. Besides dealing with a faulty check valve on the hot water heater and an electrical problem all went smoothly and you will be happy to know that despite all some free range time was able to be achieved. I'll do a more detailed report with some highlights soon not that it was spectacular but some creative SN.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: Bob Knows on June 06, 2016, 05:56:50 PM
Our area has several of those abandoned railroad grades that are now trails.  Most of the mileage is out of town and easy to walk naked on.  I've covered most of them naked.  The abandoned railroads are still "paved" with their crushed rock ballast.   That really sucks for a bicycle.  You pretty much have to have those big 4 inch balloon tires, and even then the rock moves as you pass. 

There is a 5 mile stretch of the rails to trails that is paved.  Its close in near town.  It gets lots of foot and bicycle traffic.  So a couple of years ago on a Tuesday morning I took my bicycle and rode that one naked.  i passed a dozen or so other people and also saw some people who lived near the trail.   On a bicycle I was past and gone before they could grab their cameras/phones.  Didn't matter anyway.  I stopped and put on some shorts for the last 100 yards to the parking lot.

If I had a friend who would go with I would do it more often.  I would love to be able to park a care at each end.  Despite my efforts I haven't found any local nudists who are willing to go into public space.  The other locals are all factory farm nudists.

Bob
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: JOhnGw on June 06, 2016, 10:23:21 PM
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to park a care
Getting naked is a wonderful way to park one's cares.

What a glorious typo.   :) ;)
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 07, 2016, 04:46:56 AM
Something I've noticed happens every time I go for a naked walk!

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nuduke on June 08, 2016, 11:26:03 PM
At last again!
Today I went for a splendid walk - the best for absolutely ages!
You may remember in February I visited some woods where the sunset was stunning but the outcome of the recce was inconclusive and these public woodlands looked like a bit of a magnet for walkers and so on.  Well, be that as it may, this afternoon after another appointment in the area, I went again to these woods bordering (but not part of) a local stately home.
Even at 3pm on a Wednesday there was but one car in the park and I set off in my usual SN friendly hiking garb with optimism.  It was a stiff climb up uneven ground covered in tall grass and as I skirted the perimeter of the woods to get to the gate (perimeter has barbed wire) I noted that the occupants of the other car (assumed) were heading down again.  I could have done even this part of the journey nude but it was after all the approach track (well trodden) to the woods.  So I sweltered on.  The day was beautiful, humid and hot sun.  As I rested on the hillside everything felt moist and verdant in the sticky heat and there was a sharp and cooling contrast when under the shady boles of trees.  Lovely.

I reached the gate and headed up the main woodland path.  I had come across nobody and could hear nobody.  I was alone in the woods as far as I could tell.
Unfortunately the undergrowth at the side of the path was 100% stinging nettles as far as the eye could see.  Not good.
At length (actually only a few hundred yards) there was a tiny path off into the undergrowth and despite the fact that I could still see the gate I veered off through the nettles, not so optimistic that they would ever end.  But I discovered I was coming to the end of the nettle zone and soon the ground cover gave way to wild garlic and other innocuous plants although there were still a decent peppering of nettles.  I picked my way along narrow trodden paths only a shoe wide.  I have no idea what these are.  Are they animal trails or just natural divisions between clumps of ground plants.  They were too thin and winding to be people trails.

After a few more minutes trailing I reached a lovely clearing.  Sun dappling through the trees, a few fallen or sawn logs to sit on and dry softish leaf debris to walk on.
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BUT WAITTTTT! Those of you who have followed my sad and utterly frustrating attempts to post photos here from my SN OneDrive account will be flabberghasted to learn that I seem to have cracked it!  Having spent countless frustrating, harrowing, tear-stained hours with flickr and all manner of other means to embed a picture and never achieving anything that either shows or isn't clickable revealing my entire photo collection, I seem to have struck the formula!  Its {img]http://embed code from a certain sequence of operations in my Onedrive online[/img} (used some curly brackets so you see the formula - if I don't it's (http://hfalsfhslfkhsflsfhf983793579357).  Now don't think I haven't tried many many many similar combinations before on several photo website systems but I've FINALLY!! hit a good one!  But I digress...

This beautiful clearing was pretty well shaded from the main path by undergrowth and I knew I was a decent distance from it.  I didn't know where the secondary paths were as yet but I decided to disrobe anyway.  I 'harked' for a minute or two - no sound or sight of dogs or humans so I went for it.  Naked and euphoric, I stood and sat, walked around the clearing and enjoyed the beautiful warmth.  Flies whizzed around everywhere and I remembered the one thing I'd forgotten was repellent.  Still what's a few bites compared with the freedom of the forest?
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By the way, these photos are by way of a brilliant new feature I discovered on my phone whilst setting the 10sec shutter delay.  You can tick a box which makes it take a photo every 10 sec (or whatever interval you set).  Thus I was able to prop the phone on the ground and move about to ensure I got a few good shots with minimal messing about.  That worked well other than my phone had a load of little insects crawling all over it by the time I reclaimed it! :)

Eventually I decided, since there had been no evidence of humanity in the vicinity for some time, to pack my clothes and walk out to find the next path.  Carrying in my hand a pair of lycra knee length swimming shorts, which I'd pre-tested for ability to pull on easily over my hiking keens (verdict, fairly but not perfect but around 5-8 secs), I began to walk out of the clearing. 

It was tricky to keep out of the way of nettles but my trusty hiking stick came in very useful.  Soon I emerged onto a secondary track.  Not so winding so I could see a decent way in front or behind.  There were occasional gossamer threads across the track and vegetation bending over the way in places, suggesting nobody been this way recently.  So I walked!  This I have never done before; walked along a used track where the danger of an encounter was high.  But somehow today I felt more confident and strode off down the path.  I walked further than I have ever walked naked.  I was feeling pretty good!  I strode along feeling very Milfmoggish!  That is; bold and confident.  Eventually I reached sight of the other side of the woodland area a few hundred yards ahead.  Oops!  Better not emerge naked on the edge of the wood.  So, equally confidently, I reversed and strode back along the path looking for the place (easy to spot sapling) where I emerged and went right back to the clearing.  Definitely now the longest nude walk in a wood I have ever done and one of the longest durations.
I was comfortable!  In the warm atmosphere, still air and beautiful verdant vegetation, I felt as good as Iíve not felt on a woodland walk for the last couple of years.  I remembered to thank the forest with an embrace to a mature oak tree and sat for a little more awhile on a log and walked now barefoot around my little temporary leaf-scented eyrie before I decided to get dressed and return.
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Emerging from the undergrowth onto the main path, I decided to take the easy path back and also to wear my huaraches rather than the keens that were getting a bit hot underfoot by now. 
As I changed shoes, in the distance I saw a large dog coming through the entrance kissing gate alone. I froze Ė donít like unattended dogs.  I could only see its silhouette.  It looked my way and moved slightly.  Wait a mo! Dogs donít have such spindly legs!  It was a small deer.  I paced on in my huaraches feeling that wonderful euphoric glow that I always get after a naked walk.  Why is this?  What is the secret earth magic that makes one feel so good Ė especially on the clothed return trip?  Gaian earth energy recharge I reckon!
The huaraches really are remarkable footwear.  My feet were cool and I had a good feeling of stability and walking steadily.  You can feel the contours of the ground underneath your feet but it isnít uncomfortable.  Along the approach path to the car park, the way was dry and stony but still the huaraches provided adequate cushioning for comfortable if a bit wobbly walking. I reckon this pebbly, stony path was the nearest thing Iíll get to one of Duane or Jbeeís washes!
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I have to say that now having almost bare feet and rolled up trousers (what a sight!) and having met the deer, I realised there was a deer park on adjacent land and my mind did start to think ticks.  However, I emerged unticked!
15-20 mins later I was back at the car, glowing with the happy achievement of a really good SN walk (Yes I like that term!) and anticipating a return to that forest but not before Iíve done another hike along my recently discovered riverside walk.

Hope you enjoyed my report.  Haven't done a long one like this in yonks (not too long I hope).

John



Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on June 09, 2016, 12:19:58 AM
Been waiting a long time for this report, a long time. I've got a big smile right now. Thank-you for going to the trouble to sharing your obvious exuberance, craft and taking us along, pictured step by step, no less. You are duly encouraged to keep this up.

A word about western washes. They are generally either like beach sand, or multitudes of large river rocks. It depends on the last flooding, how long erosion accumulated, speed of flow, erosion of the surface caused by foot traffic, etc. A rocky wash one day can be like a sandy beach in just an hour and stay like that for years and visa versa. There are sheets of bedrock surfaces either exposed, or as parts of the rest, too. I've found it rare to see uncomfortable pebbles in a wash, unless an ancient surface with clay gets uncovered. There are washes where the meander causes a beach with river rock next to it. Here the different sizes of rock are sorted and collected. There you might find a section of pebble surface and walk around it, if bare foot.

Eyesup, does that sound about right?
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 09, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
That's an accurate description, Jbee. Except here in the southern parts, there is the heat to contend with for 2-3 months.

I've always thought of walking barefoot in the washes, sans any pricklers, is like getting a foot massage. It can be a pleasant experience.

Duane

Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: milfmog on June 10, 2016, 03:13:38 PM
Nice one John!

You have just demonstrated to yourself how places that do not look suitable for a naked walk can actually prove to be fine and how with a little preparation and suitable quick cover-ups you can walk in spots that looked impossible to the less attuned eye.

Congratulations. Now you've found one spot I suspect that you will discover a step change in your craft and other places will magically appear where you had previously dismissed the possibility. a word of caution though; the feeling can get under your skin and it becomes progressively harder to put clothes back on. Try not to let your joy lead you into harm's way.

Have fun,


Ian (waiting to know more about the riverside walk...)
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 11, 2016, 01:54:22 AM
Oddly enough, John, I have the yearning to "go a wandering along the woodland (sic) path". While I love the desert, I was raised in a humid environment and your, along with others here, keep me reminded of that heritage.

Taking off on a path like that when it's impossible to know if anyone might pop up says you are moving along to more adventurous hikes. The cool shadows of the wood appear inviting and the road goes on.

Good pictures and report and hope to see more.

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: John P on June 11, 2016, 10:59:21 AM
I agree, Duane. The western landscape can be spectacular, but I just can't learn to enjoy a place where hardly anything grows. I've been there more than once, but I'm never really comfortable with it.
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Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: ric on June 11, 2016, 02:37:52 PM
on a hot day i prefer the shade and cool of the woods, 
i normally escape during the working day when theres few other people about but if youre aware of your surroundings a winding path isnt really a problem ,  often the first indication is a bird flying at speed along the path towards you, they only fly like that when theyre fleeing from something.  bird alarm calls also carry a long way., similar with wild animals
add to that most people wear bright coloured clothing that shows up through the trees, they rarely walk alone ,the sound of chatter ,either between people or between people and dogs carries a long way, often dogs are a fair way ahead of their human companions
all in all its probably easier to remain unseen in woodland but if you do get caught out its going to be at close quarters when not panicing and ignoring your own nakedness is the only really sensible option.











Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 11, 2016, 11:58:54 PM
Don't get me wrong, there is something special, to me, about the desert. In

Well John, I'm gonna go out on  a limb and guess that that picture was taken in the Sonoran Desert. When and where was it? I've driven through the Sonoran but not hiked or camped in it. The closest I've been is camping on the Mogollon Rim.

With two of our members in or near there, it's tempting to take a run down there and check it out.

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nuduke on June 12, 2016, 01:32:53 AM
Quote from: ricc
in all its probably easier to remain unseen in woodland but if you do get caught out its going to be at close quarters
Very much agreed.  You can usually hear walkers and pets coming from afar off and it is relatively (although not always) easy to discriminate these from normal animal sounds and disturbances.
Thus it's relatively practical to cover up before the encounteror (I've coined a new word!) encounters you.

John
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on June 13, 2016, 08:50:00 PM
I think that seasonal and weather changes will change the attractiveness of the desert or woods.

John P's photo, above, was taken in a drought, probably winter. It looks like Phoenix, not southern Arizona,speculating by the vegetation.The temperature is nice in winter, but it looks as though nothing grows there when it hasn't rained. Similarly, right now, the vegetation is thin in June. The hottest driest time of year. The flowers have dropped off of the ironwoods, The mesquites are thinned down and energy is being put into the beans. This photo is in a paloverde dominated area. There are few leaves on the green sticks. There is no shade. You are on a hill of dark rock where the heat is more intense and moister disappears quickly.

This is a completely different place if you add water and season. Right now my local desert yard looks extremely parched, something like this, with more scrubby little plants all dried out. It is a season, like when the leaves fall off of the trees in winter and things are stark. BUT, in any 15 square foot plot, I can count 25 to 35 different kinds of flowering plants, but they don't pop out all at once. Seasons, rain patterns, some are bi annual, critter feeding populations, all are factors. Mesquite trees are common and create a more forested ambiance. The area in the photo has none.

Wide open spaces of freedom also are attractive features.

I too appreciate trees. I love my riparian areas, and streams. Water is a plus. Elevation changes my desert into a forest. Check out my two posts on my website during the next two weeks in Ash Creek in the Pinalenos. To acquire this thick forest, there must be rain and colder weather, unless you are nude near the equator. Rain, cold and elevation change that flora. These circumstance are not always handy for naturists lifestyle. UK has rain, New England has freeze and snow, it can be rough, until those good days occur.

IN order to have a desert, I must put up with 300 days of total sunshine each year with 65 days disrupted, at least part of the day. I put up with all of this sunshine, while others have many long days with overcast, drizzle, etc. 

I'll stick with my desert preferences. The ironwood's blooms put down the dogwood of the east. The flowering is mesmerizing fascination. The sun on my bod is an expected given. The sense of awe and size  and the sunsets are wondrous. The desert, especially my desert area is widely popular among the tourist, so much so, too many decide to move here. There is shade here and I can go to a forest on any day to hike, driving an hour, or hiking uphill watching the seasons change as I go. My desert is a place of incredible diversity and adaptations. Green is amazing and user friendly, but it comes with a price.

So, we can go where the weather suits our lack of clothes. Within four hours drive, or less, I have ocean, huge lakes, or alpine mountains, but I also have this amazing desert and nearly guaranteed sunshine just out my door. I'll take the guarantee with a thousand options.

It was hot yesterday, as I lay in the shade of thirty and forty foot tall mesquite trees, and next to a swimming pool and a sauna. Many naked friends were about, new people came in, young and old, we prayed and sang and cavorted. Might as well be heaven. It wasn't a good time to be hiking in the parched desert. Time and place, I say, John P. Maybe some day, I'll have an opportunity to show you what I mean. In the meantime, enjoy New England, it is summer and beautiful. I thought that I might be up that way this summer, but responsibility is in the way. Also, in the meantime, check out the diversity and seasons as I report in my website: TheFreeRangeNaturist.org
I'll be sure to be adding pictures of incredible desert and being nude i it as things move along.
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: reubenT on June 14, 2016, 06:34:56 AM
by the way,  what kind of phone camera has that multi delay picture function?    Been thinking about getting a camera with that kind of function.  But if I could find a used phone/camera that had it it'd be fine.    Something that could be set up to capture working pictures.    Then I could pick out a few usable ones and delete the rest.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: John P on June 14, 2016, 12:22:17 PM
Duane, you're right, my picture was taken in the Sonoran desert region. But Jbee knows his territory!

John P's photo, above, was taken in a drought, probably winter. It looks like Phoenix, not southern Arizona,speculating by the vegetation.The temperature is nice in winter, but it looks as though nothing grows there when it hasn't rained.

There's an additional clue between the cactus and myself: a large rock has graffiti on it. Not something you often find on wilderness trails! But the picture was taken in South Mountain Park in Phoenix, the largest city park in the USA. (Yes, it's big,  but the upkeep is easy.)  My wife and I went to Phoenix for a wedding, and to make the visit worthwhile, we extended it into a week-long trip. She spent an afternoon hanging out by a hotel pool with her women friends, all with clothes on--a pretty deadly way to pass time, even if my company had been wanted--so I went off for a stroll in the park. It was early May, too hot by our northern standards but just about bearable.

The other naturist thing that we did was to go to El Dorado Hot Spring:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28291527/Naturism/IMG_1849.JPG)
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on June 14, 2016, 06:43:17 PM
I've got a Tonopah (hot water under bush) story that will be refurbished and posted someday. We rented the now defunct Casa Blanca Zen tool shed and hiked into the hills and off to some petrogylphs for my B-day, a few days, a few years ago.

I know that park from 1970. We got kicked out of a cave after a Jethro Tull concert (unimaginable state of mind, note the era) by a police patrol car. I wasn't sure if I really heard it. I had been listening to trains going through the mountain that night. My friends had to confirm the hassle. Had to climb down a cliff, with sleeping bag in hand, to get to the VW and the flashing lights. It was arduous. I still don't know how tall it was, it seemed very very tall and treacherous at the time. My friend drove us away. We then parked and the three of us tried sleeping in the bug, until the sun came up. The show was fabulous and the hue of the streetlights was fascinating. Ah yes, the sixties....

That is a pretty well trodden, lower elevation heat location (Phoenix basin 2000 ft. elevation). I'm surprised that you were able to get nude use out of it. I would think that you were very resourceful to do that.
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: balead on June 14, 2016, 08:53:29 PM
Nice report John (nuduke). It's good to see that your confidence is growing.
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: nuduke on June 14, 2016, 11:16:24 PM
Thank you, Dave.  If the torrential rain would stop maybe I could get out again!
John
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 15, 2016, 07:32:55 AM
Quote from: Jbee
. . . and hiked into the hills and off to some petrogylphs for my B-day . . .

My wife and I were hiking out in the desert 60 miles or so south of town among petrglyphs so old they were starting to disappear. We were very isolated and I spent some time walking around naked at an ancient rock shelter with glyphs surrounding the site.

Rather special.

Duane
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: jbeegoode on June 15, 2016, 09:12:18 AM
What is it that is so special about walking nude in old native ruins, petrogylphs, pictographs, haunts? I get a sense of the place and those who habituated there before. My imagination looks to them being there, and sometimes, it is as if they are, in spirit, around. Sometimes there is a kinship. DF has a place in the Churicahuas where she swears she lived before as a woman. There are those senses, but they seem enhanced nude.
Jbee
Title: Re: At Long Last!!
Post by: eyesup on June 15, 2016, 03:56:27 PM
We love going to abandoned human sites. Any type. Western, native, recent or ancient. Standing in a mining ghost town or an old pit house always brings to me the same reaction. How did the people that were here live? Weíve been in ancient native sites and western sites of settler towns, Civil and Revolutionary War locations and I always has that same reaction.

In museums that devote space to the native culture you see artifacts that have clear uses and others that produce nothing but speculation. Based solely on archaeology you can see dioramas that depict a somewhat idyllic and simple life. Most probably it was more survival than living. I realize that the climate here is drier now than 1500 yrs. ago, but it was still a desert then. Just not as dry as now.

At any rate, it is always fun to imagine the people and the life they had. We traverse this landscape in devices those people would have considered magic. We have no clue how they lived or what moved them. When I stand in the middle of a desert landscape that is removed from our civilization so that I cannot see or hear any evidence of it, the size and impact of that landscape reminds me how a small and simple mistake could reduce down to a handful, the choices I have to survive. For those people, that was a daily routine.

So they made their marks on the stones, boulders and walls of the desert. We were here and survived for a while! What those figures are and what they mean is lost. It is all speculation. All we do is stand there and observe their handiwork and are amazed that they managed to do what they did.

Yeah, special indeed.

Duane