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General Naturism Discussion / Re: The Good the Bad and the Ugly
« on: October 29, 2019, 11:32:50 PM »
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Somehow, a NSFW tag was placed on the post.

Irony at its best!

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: The Good the Bad and the Ugly
« on: October 29, 2019, 06:40:08 PM »
I see your dilemma, JBee, and share your confusion. All of us in the “naturist community” (if there is such a thing) want to dissociate sex from nudity, not because we’re anti sex but because the two things are not the same, any more than car engines and sex are the same. We try to convince others that naturism is A Good Thing, it’s safe for women in the #metoo age, it’s safe for children in a sexting, internet-porn fuelled paedophile-fearing world.

But because those whose minds we are trying to educate still lump us in with NSFW items because the snowflakes might get upset, lo and behold it gets us more followers!

Except does it? Because it’s NSFW and therefore potentially porn, in all likelihood those who don’t find what they want will just give up and go away or, worse, leave disparaging remarks about imperfect bodies and wierdos who want to flaunt themselves.

I appreciate the extra site traffic is gratifying, JBee, but that’s only part of the story. Do your site stats offer any deeper insight what visitors do, such as time spent on site, additional pages explored, etc, which might help your deliberations?

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Surveillance society
« on: September 25, 2019, 11:21:07 PM »
I recently read a book about the history of English rebels. The author handily defined the difference between revolution and rebellion - a revolution succeeds, a rebellion doesn’t.

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Surveillance society
« on: September 20, 2019, 09:07:35 AM »
They’ve been mentioned here before in other threads as being prevalent your side of the pond. I think they’re happening more and more over here too. I’ve had the impression, perhaps wrongly, that in the US they’re tied in with hunting (being called “game” cameras, which in English English would make them hunt-focussed). Over here they’re increasingly used to watch, monitor, record wildlife from an observational and conservation standpoint. Their results feature frequently in TV programmes.

I haven’t come across any myself, but then I haven’t been looking for them and part of their modus operandi is to be well camouflaged, anyway, so I probably wouldn’t. With the plethora of mini spy cams that are constantly advertised in internet pop-ups I fear we just have to accept that we are all going to be caught on someone’s camera somewhere sometime.

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: People who've given up washing
« on: August 31, 2019, 08:07:20 AM »
There it is again, the problem of labels. Naturist? Nudist? Even “naturalist” now? Yet each with potentially different meanings to confuse the unwary. My mantra is that I prefer to be naked, end of. While I think that has less ambiguity attached, even the simple “naked” has attracted various definitions. Who’d have thought the simplicity of being unclothed could get so complicated.

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« on: August 16, 2019, 02:58:45 AM »

I'm sure we do have midges in England, Peter S, don't we.  I got bit by a load a few weeks ago when gardening at dusk.
If they weren't midges, what were they?  You can always tell when there's horse flies as they are bigger and noisier.
I think they just have loads more midges in Scotland!
John

Yes, but our midges are pale sassenach imitations of the Scottish breed, which have been brought up watching old Braveheart movies and having fang upgrades in the Clydeside dockyards. English midges? Pan, wimps!

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 12, 2019, 11:17:48 PM »
I think you’re recalling the fuss back in March, JBee, when a group of self-appointed paedophile hunters barracked an organised, regular, club-based nude swim, advertised as family-friendly with children in attendance. The paedophile hunters called themselves the Templar Knights and with a name like that may have had some religious affiliations. After a bit of mostly local publicity and the police standing by just in case, it seems to have fizzled out quite quickly. Still quite worrying for those on the receiving end while it was going on.

It pretty much imitated (though less dramatically) the similar fuss in Canada last year, though I think that also died a pretty rapid death. I seem to recall a leading protester in Canada was charged with something or other after swimmers had their cars damaged (?) Both “protests” seem to have been based on the “what about the children” principle, but failed to drum up any real public reaction.

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: People who've given up washing
« on: August 09, 2019, 03:42:32 PM »
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Washing hands has an immediate effect on the viruses that go around each cold season. I wash when I'm around more people and their habitat.

I know it's widely reckoned that the winter germs spread mostly via things like door handles - sneeze with hand over mouth, open door, next person picks up germs, etc - so hand washing can undoubtedly lessen the spread. But as someone whose work took me into possibly four or five different homes a day, I recommend wide exposure to bugs as the best way to build up immunity. In all that time I rarely got more than a short sniffle in any bug season thanks - I believe - to multiple low-level exposures. Since retirement I find the bugs can be a bit more invasive.

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With the shift to gender neutrality, I think anyone could wear anything to anywhere now and not be challenged on it - or if they were challenged be able to claim damages and tabloid headlines. Except, of course, you couldn’t get away with going to work naked ...

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Permanude
« on: August 03, 2019, 06:33:13 AM »
I think it’s about control, full stop, nothing to do with gender. There are plenty of people out there who just like to control the rest of us, to be in charge, exercising the “fact” that they know what’s best for us. It’s one reason the choice of nakedness can be so contentious, as we are taking that control back for ourselves. By enforcing clothing, nakedness can be retained as punishment, a method of humiliation.

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« on: August 02, 2019, 05:23:56 PM »
St David leeked, St Andrew was beaten by the midges ...

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« on: August 02, 2019, 02:19:10 PM »
No midges!?! I thought that they were all pervasive, inescapable.

Cotswolds sound better and better.
Jbee

Just as St Patrick banished the snakes from Ireland, so St George banished midges from England. They didn’t go far, just into Scotland. A few get blown south now and then but not enough to worry about. Horse flies, on the other hand ....

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: On Saving Naturist Literature
« on: August 02, 2019, 12:02:38 AM »
There is the delicate balance of differentiating between propaganda and reporting. If you know the publication you’re reading you should know which side of the line they veer towards, but of course the dedicated reader probably does not have that critical faculty(yes Daily Mail reader, I’m looking at you).

During the Falklands War a small group of UK journalists went with the Task Force and pooled their reports, which helped balance the quality, I think. A classic report from that time has added a phrase to the English lexicon - the Argentines claimed to have shot down a number of British aircraft, but from the deck of the British carrier Brian Hanrahan, an experienced and trusted BBC man, said he couldn’t reveal numbers for security reasons, “but I counted them out, and I counted them back”, and there had been no losses.

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:53:16 PM »
I'm in training for some charity fund raising walks and me and the dog were out walking the hills for eight hours. At one point we had to walk alongside a field which overgrown and was a strip of nettles, broom and thistle. Only a couple on hundred yards but every part of my body, up to my neck, was scratched. The warmth was nice but sometimes the winter die back has its benefits.

You have my sympathies! I was out yesterday on a path that in March was clear and passable, but I don’t think anyone’s been down it since then. Shoulder high with everything, which included brambles and nettles. My legs, and a few other places, are testament to nature’s revenge on the human race. I fought it for nearly half a mile before being able to find a parallel, unencumbered, path. But at least we don’t have midges in the Cotswolds.

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