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General Naturism Discussion / Re: An eloquent essay
« on: November 12, 2018, 06:53:04 PM »
Given that we on this forum do not see the need to wear clothes, it’s probably the wrong place to expect an answer to that one  :o

Amen to that, brother

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Sunbathing
« on: November 02, 2018, 04:46:02 PM »
“Rich” food over here implies a lot of sugar and/or fat content. Go back into culinary history and once that sort of content would only be available to the rich, so maybe that’s where the term stems from. “Organic” is defined as grown without the use of any form of man-made chemicals, fertilisers or pesticides (the use of the word organic is policed by the Soil Association, who promote and monitor organic food production. Given the efficacy of all those chemicals at improving crop and animal yields, organic foodstuffs tend to be more expensive and so have an aura of “for the well-off”.

There’s even a movement afoot promoting “ancient grains”. Mass production has reduced the use of strains of wheat etc to those which are the highest yielding (for obvious economic reasons), but less efficient strains are now being rediscovered and used for bread that only the rich can afford on a regular basis.

Perhaps the new definition of “rich” food needs to be the food that used to be for the poor.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: October 31, 2018, 07:06:04 AM »
Its the cops

Except someone called the cops, so they have to bear some of the responsibility, it’s not just the police.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: An eloquent essay
« on: October 31, 2018, 07:01:36 AM »
Somewhere down line the tail started to wag the dog. The theory of elected representation is that we select some from among us to administer the common systems society needs for its day-to-day working. By calling those representatives “government” we let them believe they run society - us - not simply our support mechanisms. We then allow ourselves to be deceived by the notion of elections that we can dethrone them if they get it wrong - unfortunately elections only result in the election of more politicians.

Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« on: October 31, 2018, 06:49:44 AM »
On this side of the pond we have had a few instances of problem police officers, but overall I think we are pretty well served - I do detect a difference in systems between here and the US which lies at the heart of both the perception and reality of our respective experiences.

I sometimes wonder if real-life policemen are influenced by their on-screen portrayal, where so often the hero breaks the law to uphold it for the greater good?

While the naked lifestyle can, like many other activities, be pursued with a religious-like fervour, I don't think such things qualify as a religion in their own right. Though I suppose if we think of naturists as "sun worshippers" the religious definition can be applied, even expanded to be part of Atenism (the ancient Egyptian term for sun worship, a bona fide religion back then, apparently).

Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« on: October 29, 2018, 11:59:41 AM »
60F, 15C? That's mid summer! What's the problem?  ;D

John, surely you know that in the UK the only true religion is the NHS - do not bow down to false prophets!

Suggestions / Re: Comments
« on: October 28, 2018, 07:22:42 AM »

General Naturism Discussion / Re: An eloquent essay
« on: October 25, 2018, 06:17:09 PM »
Although it is regarded as being against the politeness that is supposedly British, we too have an honourable history of civil disobedience, back in the days when the London mob would express its feelings by overturning the carriages of the ruling class and lobbing rotten vegetables at the monarch. That was before we had Bobbies on tne beat and they go to ript shields.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: An eloquent essay
« on: October 25, 2018, 08:28:30 AM »
There’s a difference, if only of degree, between society’s laws and a small group’s rules. Laws do indeed need to have wriggle room for changing interpretations and different eventualities (and for lawyers to earn their crust arguing over them in court). The rules of a small group get more personal and don’t usually have the benefit of a judge and jury to arbitrate; they also cover better defined areas so can be more closely crafted to try to avoid future misinterpretation. If only people weren’t involved, they could be perfect ...

I think it reflect# a timely strike by British Naturism - given how police resources are so stretched these days, highlighting something they don’t need to respond to as it isn’t a crime saves them time, money and effort, so i’m sure they welcomed BN’s initiative to give them a get-out. Win-win.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: An eloquent essay
« on: October 24, 2018, 07:01:01 PM »
Rule (and law) making is a fraugh5 area, all too easy for the rule makers to know what they mean but the result to be open to misunderstanding and ambiguity. As always, the human componen5 is the fallible bit.

There isn't much that doesn't leave some trace of its passing, whether that's horse shit or motoring's carbon monoxide - the difference lies in whether the planet and its inhabitants can cope with those traces. It may have taken a lot of effort to move the horse (and cow and sheep and pig) droppings out of the towns and cities, but at least it could be spread on the land to fertilise it. Of course the smell and the associated illnesses and diseases had to be taken into account as well. Basically, the human race is not really a force for good as far as the planet is concerned, and we have  to find ways to mitigate our effect on it.

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