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Trip reports / Re: Nude Across America Pt.12: WNHD Two
« on: November 24, 2021, 05:27:07 AM »
Nuduke says, "If you ever come to Britain, I can walk you through similar terrain only 20 mins drive from our house albeit that 1-2 hrs walk does the whole perimeter!"

Naked walking for a couple of hours! We're on!

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: November 24, 2021, 04:57:51 AM »
That article, in very cavalier terms, states that the researcher said. "ďFor many people today, the Paleolithic diet is a critical issue, not only with regard to the past, but also concerning the present and future. It is hard to convince a devout vegetarian that his/her ancestors were not vegetarians, and people tend to confuse personal beliefs with scientific reality.Ē It goes both ways, lots of folks are hung up on their meat.

The scientific reality would have people eating what is on hand and popular to them. If you live in abundance of sea food, or a land or time of more meat, or a steady easy supply of veggies, that is what people ate. People ate these thing with different results. Obviously, there is amongst these "speculators" a tendency to oversimplify human diet, or generalize in educated guesswork.

People lived off goat milk, weeds and berries, Think Alaska, fish and blubber. Think of all the knowledge passed down through generations about eating certain plants and their medicinal qualities. Think about the various masticating and chewing configurations that our unique mouths provide us. Think about the varieties of environments that our species has continued to evolve in, as it expanded territory. I doubt that there are absolutes and as usual, our bodies have amazing adaptive skills, that we are just realizing.

Ketosis would certainly come in handing during leaner cold winter times. We can do that, and I shouldn't think it particularly unhealthy, and I periodically fast myself. My system readjusts and after, I eat less, lose weight, am easier to get along with myself, the list goes on.

Bob, I have a question for you. Would you say that you find yourself eating less, or less glutenous, more easily satisfied now, than with processed food and carbs? I am satisfied eating less and my blood sugar is more stable. I enjoy my eating more, I address my food differently. I figure that it may be much to do with what we aren't eating, rather than what we are eating, when you and I change our diets in somewhat opposite ways from each other, but get so much of similar results.

This vegetarian will have a couple of bites of turkey this Thanksgiving. It will be a treat. My body can handle a bit of bird. If it were wild, I'd probably feel comfortable eating more of it. On the other hand, wild turkey probably doesn't melt in the mouth like a bred butterball. ;)

Thank-you for two very interesting articles, but I do find some bias and incomplete information in significant parts of them both.

Introductions / Re: Hello from northern Germany
« on: November 21, 2021, 08:29:53 PM »
When I visited Germany, it was a blessing to have people hospitably speaking English when I humbly asked for directions. I'm certain that your English is way way way better that my German.

Glad to have you here. What do you like to do as a naturist.

Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: November 18, 2021, 03:37:54 AM »
We enter the last section of "The Secret Naturist Handbook" all about and entitled "Weather."

Here in the Scotland the most commonly talked about subject is the weather. Meet someone in the street and the first thing they will say is how it is too hot, that the wind is too windy or the rain too wet. The general public at large tend to allow the weather to determine their outdoor activities, if its raining you stay indoors, if its foggy you cannot possibly go out. If its snowing...well.

For the secret naturist its another matter entirely, for they do not shirk at being naked outdoors during less than ideal weather conditions or even in extreme weather such as during thunderstorms. The dedicated all-seasons secret naturist knows where to go when its raining and stay dry and how to find sheltered spots for nudity during a storm. Weather need not be a limiting factor for the secret naturist.

Obviously you cannot spend a hours at a time naked outdoors in mid-February, when the wind chill factor is minus 20 Degrees and, of course, it would be folly to do so. However, stripping off for a couple of minutes on the most exposed of coastal headlands, facing the storm as nature intended can be equally as exhilarating an experience as spending an entire day walking naked during the warm summer months. Weather is a never ending challenge, just waiting for you to take the plunge.

Beaufort Wind Scale

The Beaufort Scale or Beaufort Wind Force Scale is a system for estimating wind strengths without the use of instruments, based on the effects wind has on the physical environment and is a useful tool for the secret naturist wishing to estimate wind speeds when calculating the windchill factor without the use of instruments.

The behaviour of smoke, waves, trees, etc., is rated on a 13 point scale of 0 (calm) to 12 (hurricane). The scale was devised in 1805 by the British naval Commander, later Admiral, Sir Francis Beaufort (1774-1875). A further set of numbers (13-17) for very strong winds were added by the US Weather Bureau in 1955.

Force -----Term------Specification on land-----mph
0   Calm   Smoke rises vertically.   Less than 1

1   Very Light   Direction of wind shown by smoke drift but not by wind vanes.   1 - 3

2   Light breeze   Wind felt on face , leaves rustle, ordinary wind vane moved by wind.   4 - 7

3   Gentle breeze   Leaves and small twigs in constant motion, wind extends white flag.   8 - 12

4   Moderate breeze   Wind raises dust and loose paper, small branches move.   13 - 18

5   Fresh breeze   Small trees in leaf start to sway, crested wavelets on inland waters.   19 - 24

6   Strong breeze   Large branches in motion, whistling in telegraph wires, umbrellas used with difficulty.   25 - 31

7   Near gale   Whole trees in motion, inconvenient to walk against wind.   32 - 38
8   Gale   Twigs break from trees, difficult to walk.   39 - 46

9   Strong gale   Slight structural damage occurs, chimney pots and slates removed.   47 - 54

10   Storm   Trees uprooted, considerable structural damage occurs.   55 - 63

11   Violent storm   Widespread damage.   64 - 73

12   Hurricane   Widespread damage.   >74

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: November 17, 2021, 07:02:56 PM »
The more the merrier.

Trip reports / Nude Across America Pt.12: WNHD Two
« on: November 16, 2021, 06:40:48 AM »
The 2021 World Naked Hiking Day in Vermont was great fun, both days. Here is the story of the second day of hiking.


Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: November 15, 2021, 07:28:16 PM »
Nuduke, your article cites basic ecology eloquently. I had no clue there were so many birds of prey left over there.

It did seem odd to me to speak in terms of ecological systems in a place that has been so disturbed throughout hundreds and even thousands of years. The natural ecology, it would seem, disappeared generations ago. Even the wildernesses here in the western US are so very damaged.

The lady next door in Tortolita began to feed the local turtle doves for some reason. Her entire parapet was soon lined with them. It was an unhealthy mess of bird waste. I loved seeing the local raptors fix the situation. Thing was, they cleared the desert so snakes couldn't hide, so the raptors began to get rid of the mice, etc. and then the lizard diversity and sizes crashed. The natural balance quickly got way off.

The populations of everything in Tortolita have been plummeting from the extreme droughts and unreliable weather from climate change. Used to be that there was some drought every seven years or so, but the last twenty have been consistently goofed up and down.

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: November 15, 2021, 06:34:28 PM »
I have a thing about compulsive snacking, too...well, for example, starting a bag of corn chip and finishing it in one sitting. Salt and fat carbs, yum.

Lately, at DF's suggestion, I have been focused on eating when hungry. When I feel like eating, I drink a glass of water and often find that I just need water. The other strategy is getting in touch with the sensations in my stomach, which feels full, or not. Hunger doesn't always have to do with stomach not feeling full, but other sensations.

I started the new training with a fast, where I got past the "I'm soo friggin' hungry!' stage for a few days. Re-calibrated, I don't eat so much. I stop when full.

So much of my eating habits are about, habits, nervous cues, mostly derived from unhealthy habits of using food to medicate hypoglycemic/or blood sugar mood swings. Oh yea, there is the simple gluttony that I have been known to enjoy, like high grade chocolate. Or when I'm very hungry and looking for a shovel to eat with, or how my parents taught me to always clean my plate (something about children in Europe starving). ;D

Anyway, it isn't always what you eat, but how you eat.

If I stick to my "live living foods" thing, all seems to fall into place.

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: November 12, 2021, 07:02:48 PM »
No BEER!?!... Well, me too... It can be used as a medication for hypoglycemic mood swings and such with diabetes. Not a good one though. No matter how much I fasted while drinking BEER, I still had weight gain issues after a while. After many years, it was getting in my way and had to go. I trimmed down and found myself very healthy and stable.

Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: November 12, 2021, 06:50:03 PM »
If the kites were there before with the buzzards, then they'll both sort it out naturally.

Road kill would be the new intruder/invasive feeding species, so you probably have extra buzzards.

All I know of it is natural ecology is amazing and intricate and this:

We nearly lost the bald eagle, the country's symbol, but I've now seen several, from Michigan, to Arizona. Lots of kites is probably a good thing.

I have urban raptors hanging out in my big eucalyptus tree. They follow the turtle doves and pigeons that gather on the wires around here.  It's a great horned owl and a few large hawks. The tree drops lots of bark, branches and leaves, the big birds drop white crap all over the patio, but I get a warm thrill in my heart when I spot them, or hear them and it's worth the mess...well there was that unforgettable day years ago, when standing under a telephone pole and that huge glob on my shoulder. I looked up, after a few obscenities, looked at the damn hawk and then the sky, and said, "God, what did I do to offend you?"

Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: November 11, 2021, 09:07:24 PM »
Spent the last three days in a remote canyon being amazed by the Fall color changes. There was a crew of hikers that we saw pass our camp, taking off earlier in the day. We didn't want to be surprised by them. Saw their tracks still going only one way. At one point, the jays were making noise in the distance, but it wasn't them. Color and photography was so wonderful, we could probably have cared less to be surprised by them, but there are old habits that, I think, are good habits.

Over a dozen wild turkeys in a batch, a young golden hawk made a bad day for a turtle dove and a blue jay. It came through speeding under the canopy near our head height, twice. 16 antelope out on the plain on the way home. They just stood and stared at our truck.

The other hikers came down after dark by flashlight (torch), STILL talking.

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: November 11, 2021, 08:49:27 PM »
[quote author=Bob Knows link=topic=1552.msg17962#msg17962 date=1636574968

There is a fair amount of "peer reviewed" research that supports much of the arguments.  For example:

HOLY SNOT!! I think that that study just claimed that BEER in BAD for you!!!

That'll go over here like a ton a worms....

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: November 11, 2021, 08:41:29 PM »
Fishand chips, It IS definitely a hijacking!
I'd like to see Ihateclothes start a thread discussing his dreams of one day starting a nude something, or other.  You know, how to go  about doing that, the goals, business model, or other motivation and sustaining quality. We've never discussed much of that.

As for the topic currently at hand. I'll stick to my like-clockwork, morning refuse dump that my mostly raw pescetarian diet gives me.
I like that Bob's diet isn't a tedious weight loss crash, but a lifestyle that can continue.
I'm also glad to hear that you are getting some good meat. I don't eat meat primarily because of the factory farm issues.  Weird grain fed, preserves and antibiotics and other health issues that have to be overcooked out of a piece of animal just can't be right.

Questions for Bob: I've always thought of wild meat as being rather lean. This ketosis is a natural reaction, a seemingly more natural diet, but then what of this call to fatty meat? How is it justified in the caveman carnivore genre? Also, another question for Bob: Is your wife doing this too and getting great results like you, or is she just enjoying your stash of meats?   

I fell off my wagon too far and gained some weight last December. The year didn't get me back on track, either. It had a lot to do with exercise, but also what I was eating and how I was eating and my issues and old habits with blood sugar regulation in my body.
Anyway, started back in earnest, dropped about ten the first month, blood sugar is much better regulated and would expect dropping 5 more each month, as I have before, until I'm where I'm supposed to be. Holiday binging be damned! The difficult trick for me is getting at and keeping better exercise regimens.

One thing that Bob and I have in common, is the lack of processed foods and carbs. That's a true biggy.


Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: November 06, 2021, 09:16:19 PM »
A part of my naturism is the act of being nude and natural in a natural environment. How might the consciousness of a person who lived here take form? We have natural senses, more than our civilized living allows us. Nudity greatly helps to bring that out.

When Iím nude I see with my skin. Iím in the moment more. This is meditative, but a better sense of my surroundings is had. It is the skills of a hunter/gatherer. These are the places a mind can be in in a more silenced wood or desert, instead of alarm from traffic, sirens, and loud people and their distractions.

Iím out there not as just a nude, but a naturalist as well. I want to know what the beings of the natural world know and how they know it. I want to see wildlife, observe, smell, follow their lives by what they leave as clues in the greater puzzle.
There is also those often reported experiences of animals showing less, or no fear of the nude human. Be it smell, the look, the vibe, or what.

These skills can protect me from other peopleís incursions just the same. If I am immersed in the trail experience, it follows that other humans would be a part of this practice of awareness. These days, so many of us are so oblivious to their noise, that they are so very easy to hear, follow tracks, etc.

If I want solitude, I may need these secret naturistís tools and skills. If I donít want to be harassed by law and textile sensibilities, I may need these secret naturistís tools and skills. If I want to learn to know what it actually means to be natural, more than just naked, I must use these tools and skills. If I want to practice the art of the warrior leaving no sound or trace, Iíve got to ďbeĒ there with my intention. If I want it to be my choice to be seen, or not, I must use these tools and skills. If I am looking for the heightened spiritual sense found in naturism, the key to that door would be theses skills, and their practice.

As for birds, there is a Jay in Arizona that will, at times, loudly harass every step of the way. Iíve had them telling the whole world about my presence for a mile at a time. It lives mostly in the lower scrub oak communities along with all of the crackling crunching of stiff dry fallen leaves. There ainít no Indian sneaking up on, or around, anybody, on those days.

Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: November 06, 2021, 08:36:12 PM »
Warning Signs: From "The Secret Naturist Handbook"

The ability to read natural warning signs and alarm calls is an important ability for the secret naturist. On any outing, if you can detect and understand these warning signs they can give guidance to what is happening in the surrounding area and can help you take evasive action or plan accordingly. The examples here are based on the wildlife and birds of the British Isles but other similar animals and birds will be found elsewhere in the world.

The alarm calls of many common birds found throughout the countryside can readily be used to give advance warning of the possible approach of people. Examples include the blackbird, whose loud and noisy call is well known and the wren also makes one hell of a racket when it detects possible danger within its nesting territory. Members of the crow family such as the carrion crow and the jay both have quite distinctive calls and are easily recognised when you get to know them. During the breeding season many birds will get excited when an intruder is close by. Common examples are the oystercatcher, black-headed gull,

The best way to get to know these alarm calls is to observe the bird actually making the call. A couple of good examples are the pheasant and grouse, which make quite a racket when disturbed at close quarters. Try and remember that the alarm call sounds like for the future.

When you hear any natural alarm call in the field, you need try and make a guess at what caused the bird or animal to make that call. In the first instance you need to decide if it was yourself who caused the reaction. A good guide is how far away the call is. For example, a woodpigeon taking off suddenly from a few metres away will likely have been due to your own presence but the same event occurring at the other side of the wood could be down to another presence. Having eliminated your own presence, the other two possibilities are predators or people and there is no easy way to know which it would be remotely. Your best action is to exercise additional caution and keep your wits about you.

One important note to remember. If, for example, walking through a lane in the middle of a wood, and a bird flaps out, say 50 metres away - don't automatically think that YOU have disturbed it - there may be someone coming in the opposite direction, who have caused the disturbance.

Members of the crow family have already been mentioned above and from experience the carrion crow is one to pay special attention to. Carrion crows in the countryside are very wary birds and can be used as "remote eyes" when on secret naturist outings. For example, at my local patch of coniferous woodland, crows tend to sit on the treetops and will take flight as soon as they see humans in the area, often accompanies by an alarm call - useful indicator to human activity in the area.

Animals are also useful indicators of disturbance in the area. A deer suddenly bounding through the trees in your direction should get your immediate attention. Ask yourself what caused it to act in such a way? Could it be a dog let loose by a walker following another trail in the wood? It might have only been a fox but you should take heed in any case.

The sight of rabbits grazing peacefully is a good sign indicating a lack of recent disturbance in the area. When disturbed, rabbits will head for their warren and may not venture out for twenty minutes or more. Obviously this can vary from place to place and you should get to know what applies in your own area.

To understand natural warning signs you really need to practice in the field. When you see an animal or bird react in a certain way, ask yourself why it did so. Link up actions to possible causes and you will go a long way to becoming a master at the art of the secret naturist.

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