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Free Range Naturism / Re: newTumbl
« on: June 17, 2019, 07:27:53 PM »
I have noticed that "nudist" web sites have very few women posting compared to men nudists.  However, on sites like old Tumblr or now NewTumblrm, Reddit, and many amateur "porn" sites there is a massive and ongoing parade of women posting sexual pictures of themselves. 

Old Tumblr used to have lots and lots of naked women in sexual poses.  When Tumblr banned sexual nudity many of the women move to newTumblr or somewhere else.  But they still don't post on this site, or many other "nudist" sites.  On MeWe nudist pages i subscribe to its almost all men posting with only very occasional women.

I really don't know why that is.  I'm sure there is some deep psychological thing going on that is probably not PC to talk about.  I don't know why, but I see what I see, and I see many thousand women posting on "self porn" sites while men post on nudist sites. 

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Escapism
« on: June 13, 2019, 02:53:11 PM »
Did Thoreau go naked all summer while "living naturally"?   Anyone read enough of his writing to know?

Trip reports / Re: A couple of short trips
« on: June 11, 2019, 03:05:34 PM »
That rock looks seriously out of place.  I wonder what the geology is in those parts. 

Kinda like not reading a book together, Bob?

Haven't had a TV in decades. Had netflixs for a while. Do youtube. If I have a TV, I tend to sit and watch it.

2 people reading a book would be difficult.

My wife is an English professor.  She reads mostly literature and fiction books.  She watches movies and other fiction on TV. 

I have very limited use for fiction in print or video.  I tend to watch sports, documentaries, reality, TV about real men doing real work and achieving real goals.

We do books and mags, take classes, do a couple of groups, dance, make music, etc.. Better to interact, no matter what the activity. Better to use the body. Most TV melts down a mind eventually. All the TV news is so ridiculously biased, or just flat out government and corporate propaganda these days, it isn't worth watching the news except to get a better idea what the dullards are being taught to think. It is mostly Trump doing something outrageous, so as to make it seem normal so see the world as a hostile circus act, the true issues are glossed over, anyway. Now, another year about a horse race with no substance, totally ignoring the issues.

I ignore TV FAKE news.  Its all hate and propaganda.  Sometimes I check local news for the weather forecast.   There is much more accurate news info on Twitter than on corporate crap media.  For example, we learned today that the "Russian operative" who the Trump Campaign was accused of meeting by the Mueller investigation was actually a Ukrainian employee of Obama's State Department.  He was presenting a proposal for settling the ongoing Crimean conflict.  His meeting with Presidnet Elect Trump's staff was part of his work for the US State Department (and Mueller).   Mueller left all of that out of his "Investigation" report and used the meeting to allege that Trump had secret meetings with Russians.  None of that will ever be learned watching TV FAKE news.

A naked walk in the woods is certainly more relevant and healthy. Even being one of those people who spend their time getting a perfect tan is more relevant than TV. Eating healthy food of all kinds is also a good substitute. REal living instead of watching a box tell you about things that you can't do anything about, just to sell you on something that you don't need.

We are talking about moving to Arizona where evening walks would be more reasonable for more of the year.  We are again having cold and windy.  Brrrrr.   My wife has not been willing to share naked walks for years.  Sad.

Free Range Naturism / Re: Everyday Occurances
« on: June 07, 2019, 07:50:19 PM »
However, I agree that a sixteen-year old girl looses all her attractiveness when she is nude.

That's just silly.   Probably common nudist dogma though.

first hurdle is prising the remote away from the mrs ;)

My wife and I have separate TVs, with headphones, so we have our own remotes and don't have to fight over what channel to watch.   However, i tend to watch mostly at night also.

Sun Screen wasn't a thing while I was growing up.   As a teen there were ads for "sun tan lotion" which supposedly helped you get a tan more quickly.   We just learned to be careful not to get too much sun. 

Free Range Naturism / Re: Body Rights/Spiritual Rights
« on: May 29, 2019, 06:28:32 PM »
The right to control our own body ought to be one of the most fundamental human rights.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: May 27, 2019, 05:15:16 PM »
if we were starting today with a clean sheet of paper would the flush toilet see the light of day?,  it basically takes  a small amount of organic fertiliser, adds 2 gallons of drinking water to form a waste product that needs an extensive sewerage transport and treatment system.

the world is supposed to be short of both drinking water and fertiliser and were spending money to throw vast quantities of both away.

Our "civilized" waste water stream has many good things in it besides our brown body waste.   In some places they have experimented with separating drains into "black" water and "gray" water.    Laundry water, including pounds of high nitrogen detergent, sink and dish washer water, bath and shower water, and wash hands bowl water all goes to gray water drain.  Even urinal water can go to drain water if you manage to collect it separate from black water.   The next question is, what do you do with your grey water?

Some installations have tried to use gray water on their lawns, but it becomes a maintenance problem.  Hair, grease, lint, and particulates from sinks and showers clogs up water sprinklers.  So gray water is usable for gardens and places where you can have flow irrigation rather than spray irrigation.  Even then you have sump pumps and catch basins that need cleaning sometimes. 

The other problem that gray water separation causes is the black water disposal.  Transporting of human solid waste takes a quantity of water to keep it moving all the way from our homes to the city disposal facility.   Some cities complain that their sewers get clogged with solids if they don't run sufficient water.   Even the "low flow" toilets installed in the US a few years ago added to the city's drain problem.

Its all necessary in cities where cholera and other diseases spread easily but in suburbs it would be suitable for most people to pee on their lawns and gardens.   

maybe theres no practical alternative in densely populated cities but thats no reason to impose the wasteful system on subsistence level rural communities whove been recycling their waste for millennia

my veg patch gets added fertility from composted lawn mowings, im seriously considering a composting toilet,both to add fertility and reduce the mains water bill

Going naked would greatly reduce laundry, but nudists tend to take more showers.   We could eliminate half of water use in cities like Los Angeles and Phoenix if people learned to go naked and to pee on their gardens or fields.  Probably won't happen any time soon. 

I live in a rural area.  The grass does grow green over the drain field.   


General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: May 26, 2019, 11:18:14 PM »
The small country towns are densely populated, then outside of that it is extremely sparse and a dump anywhere will do. I don't know what sanitation is in these small towns. It seems serene and smells like India and not sewage, so, I guess I'd lean toward Bob's sentiments there. In the mornings people act happy and positive starting their days. They stand in their animal pens around their huts, brushing teeth and greeting their neighbors, kids in nice clean uniforms head off to school.

In traditional Hindu culture they had the "Untouchable" caste people who's place in life included cleanup and disposal of human waste.   Sometime around a century ago colonial rulers prohibited the Caste System, but didn't effectively replace their function with western waste disposal methods.   

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: May 26, 2019, 05:55:24 PM »
Any field or roadside may be a convenient place to relieve one's self but it is hardly a functioning toilet, not more than the grass in front of your house. In other words, not in my front yard. But your idea of sanitation may be different. After all, humans and farm animals have sometimes shared the same dwelling.

In India its the opinion and custom of Indians that matters.  My opinion of sanitation matters not at all.  The nearby field has been a functional place to poo for a billion people forever.  It also recycles fertilizer.   The government has been attempting to convince Indian peasants to go inside and poo into western style plumbing, but has not succeeded in much of the nation. 

Closer to home, in my home we have 2 people and 2 toilets, plus 2 urinals.  We have 1 I-Phone, plus 1 older flip phone.  Neither of them actually work at our home so we can use them only when away from home. . 

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: May 25, 2019, 05:43:31 PM »
There are more cell phones in India than functioning toilets.

Many people in India know that a roadside or field is a functioning toilet location.   The government has spent years trying to teach them how to use indoor plumbing. 

A local field wont' replace cell phones though.   Antarctic ice keeps increasing.  None of the alarmist predictions over the past century have happened.  And yet they keep saying "We're all gonna die unless we send them our money."   Funny how that last part is always there.   

Free Range Naturism / Re: Body Rights/Spiritual Rights
« on: May 23, 2019, 12:40:57 AM »
The question of a right to go naked hinges on this.

Does the government have a valid reason to deprive citizens of our right to choose not to cover our bodies simply because someone else is "offended"? 

Found this on Facebook today.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: May 23, 2019, 12:23:24 AM »

I do think that that is interesting. Europe in ice age, Tucson in grasslands enough for mammoths, saguaros fleeing south (and naked Jbee, too), places under water. The Med still gets wet winters, doesn't it? There are lots of green places on the coasts.

During the Roman Empire Carthage (Libya) was the grain growing center of the Roman Empire.  Now its a desert. Britannia was a well known wine region, now a beer and grain region.  Babylon and Israel was also a very fertile farming region, now a desert.  The global climate was some degrees higher then, even higher than "global warming" alarmists tell us to fear.   I'm not convinced that several degrees of warmer would be a problem.   

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Incredibly funny joke
« on: May 22, 2019, 06:34:13 PM »
As long as there is enough rain, I don't think it matters how warm it gets, although enough rain has long been a problem in the West.

There was an interesting book about "global warming" published about 25  years ago by a UCLA climate scientist.  One of his theories was that an increase in ocean temperature would evaporate more water and cause rain in most of the world deserts.   He opined that the SW of the US, the whole Middle East, Mediterranean basin, and most of north Africa would return to the fertile areas they were during Roman Empire or earlier times of warmer climate.  None of the fear factor advocates appreciated his book.  I don't remember what his name was any more. 


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