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Free Range Naturism / Re: Favourite places for free range naturism
« on: April 04, 2020, 07:23:21 PM »

I just don't believe it!  Got a bit of good weather at last and I hiked out to my local naturist spot with every intention of doing a SN few minutes.  The ditch or drain that separates the 'island' of secluded woodland, surrounded by field drains, was pretty full inhibiting my ingress to the SN spot.  The ground I had been on so far across the fields was pretty well drained but it was all in these channels.  I spent a while looking at the likely crossing points and found one where branches and other woody debris had built up and it afforded, just, a foothold to leap the across the drain.  However, the island was a soggy mess.  Mostly sticky mud underfoot and extremely flooded.   What was a clearing, where I could get undressed and progress out to a rear field, was unreachable as the ground was a series of lakes.  It was very picturesque and slightly mysterious with the green ponds everywhere, but no place for disrobement.  The ground in the thin causeways between pools was thick, soft mud - dangerous and impassable.  I noted quite a lot of deer footprints around the wood, indicating that they visit here often.  Have to look out for ticks.
Hey ho! So another non starter for me for a bit of naked in nature time.  Lets see how the weather develops.
Here are some pictures.  Note the third picture showing my wood from afar and the field drain that runs into it


Trip reports / Re: 2020 Zipolite #5: Anecdotes #1
« on: April 04, 2020, 05:53:57 PM »
Green with it!


P.S. Stylistic criticism - Guano.  = Bird shit. ;D

Trip reports / Re: First naturist trip in the north this year!
« on: April 04, 2020, 05:46:13 PM »

You are so right, John P
There are probably naturists in our village.  But how the heck do you make contact!?  We don't wear a badge (the pin would hurt too much :D ).  I bet if there were a few in our village we could have walks and maybe occupy eachothers' gardens.  Mine is very discreet so could have a naturist moot there if I can pack the wife off somewhere for the day!

Good thought about the Naturist Ramblers: I would love to go on a Naturist Ramblers walk.  I have been aware of them for many years, and previously as the SOC but there are 2 inhibitors.  1) They only walk in the SE of the country, which is quite a trek in itself for me.  It would involve an over 3 hour drive each way and an overnight stay somewhere before and after the walk, so expensive too.  2) I don't know if I can do walks as long as they do.  They do 11 or 12 miles a trip - I had a 2.5 mile walk today (clothed! see other report) and that was enough for my slightly dodgy knee.  I'm pretty sure I could walk for several hours with several rests ...but I don't know.  So that is a bit of an inhibitor too.  I need a 'Slightly Geriatric' version of the NRs that do shorter, gentle walks.

Our colleague Yeldew goes on Naturist Rambler walks a lot.  He lives a bit further south than me has a 1-man camper van (amazing bit of kit!) to do the, somewhat shorter but nevertheless substantial, journeys and overnights and takes it very steady, I think.  But he is lean and fit as a butcher's dog (probably from all the walking).  Quite the opposite to tubby old me.


General Naturism Discussion / Re: Model Railroading!
« on: March 29, 2020, 12:25:34 AM »

I thought that had to be a scam made by photo manipulation but I looked up the supplier and indeed after a search or two came across 3 sets of nudist figures!  I would paste the link but my pc crashed rather badly just as I was writing V1 of this post.  Interesting that the figure sets on sale don't contain several of those figures depicted in the article.

Trip reports / Re: First naturist trip in the north this year!
« on: March 28, 2020, 11:42:55 PM »

I wish I had a naturist friend nearby to walk with.  What a nice beach, if a little featureless :)

General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: March 28, 2020, 11:38:42 PM »

We are well and truly locked down although thankfully our local store has supplies, if rather intermittent.  You have to get intelligence as to when their delivery is and get there just after.  Then most stuff is available but all the staples milk, bread, flour, paper products and whatnot go very quickly.  People aren't panicking or aggressive and the stores are all rationing now, but there has obviously been a large amount of fear-driven stockpiling and no doubt people coming from elsewhere and clearing shelves to sell on to others at inflated prices causing fast turnover of stock.  I think that part of the problem also is that our little store is serving a much larger population since mostly everyone is social distancing at home and so those that would get their lunch at work or would shop elsewhere on their way home are shopping locally for everything now.  The big supermarkets in nearby towns have no delivery slots for months.  Normally of they are busy you might have to book your slot the next day or perhaps 2 days away but nothing like the current situation.  It is obviously a widespread concern that there might be shortages later on making people stockpile.

Lockdown has offered me some increased naturist opportunity.  We have cleaners in once a fortnight to do the basic elbow grease jobs.  However, they can't come now so yesterday and today, I rolled my sleeves far up that they were off completely and started doing the bathrooms, bedding, floors etc, all naked.  A couple or 3 hours over 2 days gets me round the whole house in a thorough clean.  Yesterday my wife started to object when she first saw me naked doing housework but I stamped on this to the effect of "For heaven's sake, dearest, I am doing the cleaning and you are not and it needs doing and its very warm.  Cut me some slack and just stop tut tutting every time I take my clothes off, let me get on with it in my own way".  Given that all she had to do was some light dusting, she grumpily agreed.  Today I was cleaning round her office area, where she was working at her PC, and the bathroom next door and despite her being able to see much of what I was doing she didn't object.  I suspect that was because she was engaged with what she was doing and not bothering to engage rather than further acquiescence from yesterday but I thanked her as I was finishing saying that I was glad she was cooperative and for me it was much cooler, I didn't have to walk around in clothes splashed with detergent and water whilst cleaning and that as she knew, this is how I prefer to be.  She was gracious and thanked me for taking on most of the the cleaning and allowed me to be naked for some time after that.  Bit of incrementalism occurred today I think. 

With my yoga classes packing up for the plague duration, I have been sadly neglecting my yoga but I've been taking a good aerobic walk every day.  However, I am a wreck at the moment - got a bad back in the lumbar area, my coccyx is giving me problems sitting, got a twisted knee, recovering from an injury to my thumb (sliced a lump off it with a craft knife - 7 stitches)  and in the last 2 days developed a painful crack in my heel (which my podiatrist described as a fissure).  The heel is more comfortable if I wear shoes, which I rarely do nowadays around the house and garden and since in these viral-avoiding times that's all there is, I'm pretty miffed.

So how's everyone else! :D


Trip reports / Re: 2020 Zipolite #4: Trip to Zipolite
« on: March 28, 2020, 11:06:09 PM »

That is a superb picture of you, Jbee, in the setting (or is it rising) sun strolling naked and unencumbered on a superb beach.  That's a holiday indeed.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: March 27, 2020, 02:38:39 AM »
and then get little DNA thingys absorbed
They are RNA in fact :)

It's been wonderful weather last couple days.  Been walking a lot and a tiny bit of naked sunbathing. 

UK restriction on movement has got really stringent.  Police can now stop you and order you home and today they clarified that you must not drive to somewhere to take exercise. So I am stuck in the village - no frn opportunity.


Trip reports / Re: 2020 Zipolite #3: Love Beach
« on: March 18, 2020, 12:05:32 AM »

You obviously had a great time in Zipolite.
Always nice to see members of the forum meeting up in person. 
Is there a Safebare partner?  If so are they not a naturist too?

General Naturism Discussion / Re: And you thought clothing was bad
« on: March 18, 2020, 12:00:47 AM »

Oh no!  I don't want flabby and lazy phagocytic neutrophils!  I want my neutrophils phagocyting for all they are worth....must cut down the bread!
John :)

General Naturism Discussion / Re: And you thought clothing was bad
« on: March 07, 2020, 05:29:12 PM »

Occasionally, in my childhood, my mother would cook something with tinned stewing steak.  My Father on these occasions would lick his lips and say in a satisfied voice and a strong Yorkshire accent "Aaaah, stewed monkey!".  I used to find this hilarious and as I type this I am laughing hysterically at this again.  Thanks for the unwitting nostalgic reminder, Blue Train.


Nude swimming at my (all boys) school wasn't specifically prohibited but it wasn't compulsory either.  I believe, looking back, that my naturism started at this period although I never quite realised what it was.  After sessions in the gym or on the playing field (which I hated) we would be allowed to go for a quick dip in the school swimming pool and if you didn't happen to have remembered your swimming costume, it was no problem you could dip nude.  I found this sensual and pleasurable although in the circumstances not erotic.  I just liked nude swimming and on many occasions 'just happened' to forget my speedos when it wasn't too obvious.  It once got remarked on by another boy who had spotted that I forgot my costume rather regularly.  I haven't any recollection of what I replied on that occasion but as I say, looking back, I must have had a naturist inclination even then.  Pity I didn't realise it and do more to develop my proclivity in earlier years.  I might have become a much bolder and experienced naturist, found the appropriate community and able to enjoy it much more often today.

Trip reports / Re: 2020 Zipolite #1: A Morning in Zipolite
« on: March 07, 2020, 05:06:50 PM »

That looks like a super place...where you can be naked a lot!
You have grown a huge beard, Jbee!  I don't think I've seen any sign of it in previous blogs up to press.  How long did it take to get to that bushy old hirsute appendage?
You are looking thinner too.  You have told us about your health issues in recent times causing that weight loss, but you look good with a little less around the torso.  Keep slim. 

You look older with the beard.  This may be because you are older! :D 
DF seems to be timeless!  Perhaps a very few extra lines since 2014.
When I lose weight, as I do succeed sometimes, people say I look older when I get to about 160lb (I am 178 at the moment and people say I look younger than my age).  On March 23rd I commence this year's dieting season and this time I am heading for 154lb (11 stone), however long it takes.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: And you thought clothing was bad
« on: March 07, 2020, 04:51:09 PM »

I should say that after offering the arguments in my previous post a few minutes ago, I should add that I don't endorse cruelty and the more repellant practices of animal mass farming any more than the rest of you (and indeed possibly vegans).  Maybe I am a bit more tolerant than some of you to how many chickens to a field or a barn!  But equally, we should pay more for our food rather than accept some of the conditions that poultry and cattle are kept in to keep the price of food 'competitive'.

However, Ric makes a point 
chickens are one of the most numerous animals on the planet because humans exploit them.
Maybe this is a cunning evolutionary ploy on the part of certain species.  Think about it - chickens, pigs and cows are far more numerous than they would have been if we didn't eat them.  Maybe by evolving for humans yummy flavours when cooked, and making us eat them and breed them, the hen, the cow and the pig gain far greater numbers (and variety) of their species which is usually defined as evolutionary success.
Yes! Perhaps it is we humans that are the pawns in the game of life.  We may be being exploited by our foods.  The chicken's point of view may be "Make the humans eat me, they grow successful and breed and therefore farm more of us."  More humans, more chickens.   
Since this is an evolutionary thing, presumably it applies equally to the carrot and the apple that are benefitting in provenance symbiotically with humans.
Consider that, high minded Vegans!
 :D :D

General Naturism Discussion / Re: And you thought clothing was bad
« on: March 07, 2020, 04:34:48 PM »
I gather that the basis of the vegan point of view is that we're exploiting animals if we eat them or their products. That certainly is true, I suppose, but the farm workers on an organic farm are just as exploited as a cow might be and an organic farm is no better place to work than any other farm. So it might be something of a modern luxury to be vegan.

So true, Blue Train.
And what about vegetable rights?  A vegan eats carrots and apples but they have been farmed and 'exploited' by humans just like any other farmed species.
From a somewhat philosophical point of view is there really any difference between exploiting animals and vegetables?  We have no idea whether (and if) plants have awareness of their fate?  Is a farmed apple happier than a wild apple.  Is it kinder or better to feed and nurture a carrot than let it fend for itself in the wild?  If you are a vegan or vegetarian you automatically make this philosophical distinction between the fate of animals and vegetables based (as far as I can see) on a wholly notional distinction between what exploitation means or is allowed in the plant kingdom versus the animal.
I would ask why animals are more important not to exploit than vegetables?  Animals wouldn't exist without the vegetables capturing sunlight and turning it into plant tissue that animals can eat. Surely animals are the more disposable stratum of evolution because they exploit plants for their existence. 
All this is to say that I agree with Blue Train's assertion that  "
it might be something of a modern luxury to be vegan".
That's not to deny any vegan or vegetarian their preference. This is not the issue, "chacun a son gout" I say. But I can't see how it is more virtuous to avoid eating or exploiting animals. 
This preferential regard for the fate of animals is all a very deep rooted anthropomorphism, in all of us, which is stronger in relation to animals than plants because we see more clearly the similarities of animals to the human animal than of plants to humans.   And the more the animal is like a human, the more the anthropomorphism.  Thus we love and cuddle and keep as pets pussycats, doggies, rabbits, monkeys and the like of higher mammals.  But we don't go oooh!, aaahhh! and want to pet and snuggle with lobsters, squids, locusts or slugs.
So I say to Vegans and Vegetarians, rejoice in your healthy preference and go easy on the 'principle' of it! :)

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