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Quote from: Jbee
Naked is certainly not gender neutral . . .
There is no such thing as a gender neutral person. It only exists in peopleís minds and increasingly, the law.

Duane

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: People who've given up washing
« on: August 14, 2019, 10:35:11 PM »
Quote from: Bluetrain
. . . and why the ones that don't, stink.
Stink ? ? ?  Stink is subjective and relative.

Which raises the subject of a relative, a distant cousin;
Ron D. Cart, a bit of a rural philosopher, who once famously said,

ďI stink, therefore I am!Ē ;D

Duane

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: People who've given up washing
« on: August 14, 2019, 10:34:23 PM »
Quote from: JohnP
. . it's starting to be apparent that not all bacteria are harmful, and some of them may actually be partners with us. It wasn't so very long ago that people didn't have daily baths . . did that hurt us?
Hurt, no. Change, yes.

I doubt the modern hygiene market flowered because of some health issue inherent to human physiology. Cramming thousands of people into larger and larger cities probably produced health problems due to overcrowding. Infestations of insects, vermin and bacteria that flourished in such a rich biological environment were likely the motivation that made such a market necessary.

But a one size fits all solution seemed to be the answer. Rural communities didnít have the same biological load of people that cities did.

There is a parallel discussion about naturism and laundry here on the forum, look for the link ďA Short History of BathingĒ. And another discussion of body cleanliness on this website here, about bacteria and dirt. Select the link ďLet Them Eat DirtĒ, shown there.

With so much here about cleaning and cleanliness should we worry about becoming obsessed over stubborn stains. Out, out damned spot!

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Everyday Occurances
« on: August 14, 2019, 10:32:40 PM »
Quote from: Jbee
As friends age, as nudity becomes less commonplace, the spirit is forgotten, or passed over, but with a little encouragement in good conditions, it flourishes, is remembered and continues.
When I met you, DF, Ken and Amy and that was special. Wandering through wood and stream in an unfocused exploration with a small group of naked friends was a brand new experience for me. Unfortunately Iíve not done that again.

Within a group as large as DFís party, everyone would need to be at ease. Nudity still evokes a sense of intimacy even among friends and acquaintances that seek to be naked. There would have to be trust.

My visit to OLT was not as significant in that regard. I enjoyed it for the chance to be naked outdoors and within a larger group of people with the same preference, but I didnít know anyone there. I was a stranger. If I lived close to OLT or a place like that I would definitely make more visits and friends.

Quote from: Jbee
. . . who could sleep in a pool with a dozen chattering naked women in it?
My comment about falling asleep was more in response to total relaxation in a reservoir of warm water. Apparently the watzu practitioner never leaves you alone, so that isnít likely. If the women do invite their mates to participate it would be interesting to get a comparison of behavior between to two events.

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« on: August 14, 2019, 10:27:28 PM »
With the recent grasshopper migration here we have some well fed birds, lizards, bats and if you believe what you read, coyotes. The lizards the keep the bug population in our back yard in check are not minding this at all.

As for dealing with the mosquitos, Iíve read that eating certain foods can help keep them away. You can also alter the Ph of your skin through diet. There is probably something you can do to make yourself less tasty.  i.e. Garlic! !

I vant to drink your blood !! NOT ! ;D

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Forest bathing
« on: August 14, 2019, 10:26:48 PM »
Quote from: Jbee
They were ill prepared and chose crappy cold weather. They got a bad taste in their mouths, being so uncomfortable.
We had this to deal with in Scouts. Some boys had been on family trips that turned south and just put, as you said, Ďa bad taste in their mouthí. Your grand daughter needs an exciting and uplifting campout. One that is a challenge for her but not too difficult. A good hike/campout needs people with the right experiences to make sure that even if something bad happens, you can still have a good outing.

My son and I went on the 1st backpacking trip either of us had ever been on while we were in Scouts. We hiked the west rim trail at Zion. Because we had experienced backpackers in the troup and on the hike, 7 boys and 4 adults were able to have a great time hiking and camping in spite of a little adversity on the hike.

With all that, the kids had a great time. What made the difference was the advice we all got from people that had done it many times.

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« on: August 06, 2019, 07:02:55 AM »
The heat is in the mid one-teens. It bakes you. No relief within 40 miles. The mountains are the only escape and they are verrry busy. Watching and waiting for a break in the heat. A rain even with the lightening would be welcome.

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Forest bathing
« on: August 06, 2019, 07:02:11 AM »
Have her parents ever taken her camping? Does she know anything about the outdoors?
What a treat, Jbee. To be present and participate in the learning by a child of what it means to be in the outdoors and be a part of it.

Maybe her parents will come along eventually.

Duane

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Trip reports / Re: My Private Place for Naturism #28
« on: August 06, 2019, 07:01:35 AM »
Good read, Jbee. Reminds me of similar walks Iíve had, but not near my house. I do have to drive 30-40 miles to do that, but it is worth it. Taking a nap out under the sky and sun in the middle of the desert is something special.

I also have the helicopter issues on occasion. Very annoying.

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« on: August 06, 2019, 07:00:59 AM »
Yowitch, Hillwalker. I would prefer thorns to thistle or cactus. Thorns just scratch, the others hang around for a while reminding you of the encounter.

I donít push through catclaw. I circumvent. Tangling with that tree is about as beneficial with tangling with a cat. Other plants are more forgiving.

The only bugs I deal with are flies, but they donít swarm, just fly around for a bit. The desert isnít an environment that supports mosquitos, midges or other types of insects. Itís an upside.

Duane

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It appears that she is grudgingly accepting the situation John, but will continue to remind you of her objections.
Hang in there friend.

Duane

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Permanude
« on: August 06, 2019, 06:59:50 AM »
Jbee, I can agree with most of that. The thing I do disagree with is the whole victimhood culture these days. There ARE victims, I just reject the elevation of it to some sort of cathartic experience. Maybe some will choose that but I simply see life as way to move forward learning as we go and just accepting the good and the bad as equals. Life and nature will simply refuse to stay hemmed in to a zone of safety. It isnít real.

I honestly donít get the victim culture. It is puzzling. Maybe Iím the odd one out.

Duane

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Permanude
« on: August 06, 2019, 06:59:07 AM »
I clicked on the Permanude link too, JohnP and came to the same conclusion. Babes, babes and more babes. Very little to do with real naturism.

I went back and reread the posts here. Looking at the stuff online it is mostly teen voyeurism. The stories involve the government as the enabler for engaging in soft bondage fiction. The concept of the government engaging in public shaming harks back to the ďolde publicke stocksĒ of medieval Europe.

Frankly, disturbing.

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Everyday Occurances
« on: August 06, 2019, 06:58:00 AM »
Had to look up Ďwatzuí. Some sort of water therapy?

Sounds relaxing. Not sure I would want to relax that much in pool of warm water. Might take the big sleep. At least someone would be watching.

Duane

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Everyday Occurances
« on: August 06, 2019, 06:57:31 AM »
Quote from: John
You get a general anaesthetic for colonoscopy in the US, Duane?  What luxury.
John, my guess is they do that just make the procedure run smooth by keeping people from physically and emotionally reacting. Other than that, Iíve no clue. No one asked what I wanted. SOP I guess.

Duane

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