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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Steve Gouch update - he's out
« on: November 10, 2015, 05:26:30 PM »
As many here can testify from experience, and Steve found on many occasions, appearing naked in front of others is rarely an issue - a TV documentary on Steve's Land's End to John O'Groats walk featured several instances of people lining up to have their picture taken with him, and his using shops and pubs and receiving only smiles and cheers in response. We've also recorded (I think lost on "the old site") instances of someone in authority taking it on themselves to prosecute a naturist on behalf of "offended" others, unidentified and unknown - in other words, making it up. I think Steve's big mistake that led to his latest problems was to appear naked close to a school, and of course no one can let that go unpunished, the poor little children (who, if they had seen him, would have just laughed their heads off!!)

In other words, most real people have no problem with nakedness, it's only a few with an overdeveloped sense of their own importance who cause us problems.

peter

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Encounters...what to do?
« on: November 05, 2015, 11:49:57 PM »
I've always spotted others before they see me. (Well at least tat's my perception)

So we're out naked and see someone coming, so slip behind a tree so the textile doesn't see us. But who's to say we haven't been spotted by a textile who's hidden behind a tree to avoid meeting us? It's like having a high fence so the neighbours can't see us naked in the garden, but then of course we can't see them naked in their garden, and we carry on in ignorance of our shared lifestyles. Funny creatures, people...

Peter

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Free Range Naturism / Re: One of my local walks
« on: November 05, 2015, 11:42:48 PM »
I've always understood that modern-day trespass requires some element of damage being caused to qualify for the title. Also, I believe the 'right to roam' allows ramblers (textile or otherwise 😀) to stray from the footpaths with impunity, again as long as no damage is done.

Peter

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Introductions / Re: Not a Secret Naturist Society refugee!
« on: October 27, 2015, 06:09:40 PM »
Welcome aboard - sounds like you probably know some of our crowd already!

peter

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: October 21, 2015, 06:29:03 AM »
Ash, but hedging our words and bumbling around the subject is the British way, donchaknow! Politeness at all times, old bean. 😳

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: October 20, 2015, 06:26:07 AM »
Another case of a free ranger being spotted -and condemned by the plod. This time it was on British Naturism's doorstep and they're fighting back.

From the Northampton Chronicle:

A naturism group has criticised a police force for saying walking naked along a bridlepath in Northamptonshire was “obviously unacceptable behaviour”.


Officers received several reports recently of a man walking along a path near the Bedfordshire border naked.

PC Katherine Hardy, from Bedfordshire Police, said: “This is obviously unacceptable behaviour and I would urge anyone with information to contact us.”

However, deputy campaign director for British Naturism, Juliette Gill, said the comment was “totally inappropriate”.

“Being naked is not illegal in England and Wales and the Crown Prosecution Service’s own guidelines state that unless there is a sexual context or the public were actually caused harassment, alarm and distress legal action will not normally be taken.

“We don’t know the intent of the man concerned in this report. However, for PC Hardy to advise that it was obviously unacceptable behaviour without knowing the circumstances seems totally inappropriate.

“We have a presumption in this country that someone is innocent until proven guilty and that principle does not appear to have applied here.”

Ms Gill said the matter was going to be raised with the police by the organisation.

British Naturism has its headquarters in Northampton.

“We promote nudity as a social, healthy and wholesome lifestyle for individuals and families and campaign for public acceptance and the right to be naked outdoors,” she added.

“Are we really harming anyone by enjoying our lifestyle?”

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: October 14, 2015, 04:48:14 PM »
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/miley-cyrus-perform-all-nude-concert-naked-audience-report-20151410

Not sure what to make of this one - announcing it is probably just a publicity stunt and nothing will come of it, but you never know ...

peter

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: September 21, 2015, 06:49:52 PM »
The piece also mentions that in N Carolina it's legal to have sex at 16. Presumably kids have to do it with their eyes shut if looking at a naked body is illegal at that age ....

Here's a link to it

http://news.sky.com/story/1556053/teen-given-probation-for-nude-photo-on-phone

peter

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: September 20, 2015, 11:17:11 PM »
Just read a report of a North Carolina teenager who's been prosecuted for having naked pictures of himself on his own phone. He's 17 but the pictures were taken when he was 16, so he's been prosecuted for sexually exploiting a minor. Himself.

Does that make sense to anyone?

Peter

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Steve Gouch update - he's out
« on: September 15, 2015, 11:43:09 PM »
Once again he has been arrested not for being naked but for breaching the ASBO which tells him not to go naked, even though being naked in public is legal.

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Factory Farmed Naturism / Re: Is Naturism in Decline?
« on: September 15, 2015, 11:37:15 PM »
SG has also repeatedly disassociated himself from naturism. In a recent radio interview he described naturists as people who turn up the heating so they can be naked round the house, which he would never do. So although there is much popular confusion between Steve and naturism, ne'er the twain shall meet.

Peter

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Trip reports / Re: My Canal Boat Trip 2015
« on: September 15, 2015, 11:33:39 PM »
John, your frequent references to maintenance and repair work remind me of a former work colleague who had a canal boat. Asked once why he kept the boat, he explained if was marginally cheaper than standing on a bridge chucking five pound notes in the canal! Mind you it looks more pleasurable as well

Peter

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: September 09, 2015, 04:28:01 PM »
Not because I particularly care about being droned, but I do enjoy those occasional stories about the pesky things getting shot down by annoyed shotgun owners!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/naked-sunbather-bewildering-manchester-office-workers-10492654.html

On a different note, the above story tells of a nude sunbather who has been entertaining nearby office workers for months, until one decided she wanted her 15 minutes in the limelight and decided to make a fuss. Go figure ....

peter

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: September 06, 2015, 10:04:25 PM »
http://gu.com/p/4c56t/sbl

This think piece appeared in The Guardian the other day

Peter

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General Naturism Discussion / Steve Gouch update - he's out
« on: September 03, 2015, 08:10:25 PM »
Our old friend Steve Gough has been released from prison. This - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34140955 - is an interview with a reporter on the BBC website.

For anyone who can't access the BBC site for geographical reasons, here's the text:


A man who has spent 10 years in prison because he goes naked in public has told the BBC he will continue his protest even if it means he has to spend the rest of his life in custody.
The former Director of Public Prosecutions Lord (Ken) Macdonald QC says it is not in the public interest for Stephen Gough to be prosecuted as he does not pose a danger to the public.
Mr Gough, known as the "Naked Rambler", was released from Winchester Prison on 14 August, aged 56, having served half of a 30-month sentence for breaching an anti-social behaviour order.
The cost to the taxpayer of his prosecution, imprisonment and legal appeals is estimated to be close to £1m.
He is currently walking from the Cotswolds to Eastleigh in Hampshire, clothed to avoid arrest, hoping to meet his two teenage children, whose childhoods he has largely missed because of the time he has spent in prison.
With the help of an OS map and grid reference, I found him in an open barn, complete with bats and the occasional rat, drying his walking socks on a blackberry bush, and packing up his sleeping bag and few belongings, ready for the day's walk.
'Freedom'
Mr Gough had a normal childhood, spent five years as a marine and had a stint with the Moonies, before starting a family. It was then that things changed dramatically. After what he refers to as an "epiphany" moment whilst walking through woods, he decided to dedicate his life to going naked in public.
He told me: "It's freedom to act according to what is appropriate. We are taught to be sensible and use common sense. So unless there is a good reason not to, why shouldn't we wear what we want, whether it's nothing or seven layers of clothing?"
In 2003 Mr Gough walked naked from Land's End to John O'Groats, earning the name the Naked Rambler. He has been frequently arrested for minor public order offences which criminalise threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour within sight of another person who may be caused harassment, alarm or distress.
That offence does not carry a prison sentence, just a fine. However, breaching the anti-social behaviour orders that he has been placed under has led to ever longer prison terms.
His most recent conviction, in October 2014, resulted in a 30-month sentence. He was refused the right to appear naked in court at his trial and was tried in his absence. He went on to make legal history in June when he appeared naked via video link at the Court of Appeal where his appeal against conviction and sentence were dismissed.
Mr Gough has also had a case alleging infringement of his human rights to a private and family life, and freedom of expression, dismissed by the European Court of Human Rights.
Almost all his 10 years in prison have been spent in solitary confinement, often being locked up for 23 hours a day, because of his refusal to wear clothes.
Some people support Mr Gough going naked, some find it funny, and some find it deeply offensive, but should he go to prison for 10 years, more than some rapists and armed robbers, just for doing it?
'Harmless eccentric'
Not according to the former Director of Public Prosecutions, Lord Macdonald, who told me: "This man is not a danger to anybody, he's a nuisance. He's an eccentric, as far as one can tell he's a harmless eccentric. He's spent around 10 years in prison, that's £40,000 a year. This seems to be a draconian, quite inappropriate response to his behaviour."
Lord Macdonald believes it is not in the public interest to prosecute Mr Gough.
"He's served 10 years, which on normal remission terms would be the equivalent of a 15-20 year sentence in prison," he said.
"Very few rapists get that sort of sentence, not many murderers serve more than that. Prison should be for people who represent a risk to the public, not for people who annoy the public in the way that he seems to from time to time."
I asked Mr Gough whether he would continue to go naked in public, even if it meant spending the rest of his life in prison.
He told me: "How the future will pan out I can't guarantee, but my feeling is I am continuing. That's my deep down gut feeling. That I am continuing and it will not end here. I really can't see that this country would sentence someone to life in prison just for being naked in public. But if that's what it will mean I am prepared for that."
Once he has seen his children, Mr Gough intends to resume going naked in public. He will ramble uphill, down dale and, in all likelihood, back to jail.


peter

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