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Trip reports / Re: Western Massachusetts again
« on: July 30, 2020, 02:00:42 AM »
Thanks John for posting your photo essay.   Dan here.    I'm glad that we persevered through the day despite the tentative weather at dawn.    To answer your question Nuduke, the temps ranged from the mid seventies when John and I met in the morning to topping out in the low nineties (F) during the afternoon.   Fortunately, with some luck and discretion, one can remain nude almost continually on some of our trails in this part of Massachusetts, so inappropriate clothing was not necessary for much of our day.     

What is missed through the above thread, is that I was even more impressed by the later sites that we enjoyed through our day together.    That final swim beneath the old keystone arch railroad bridge and the nude hike back out to our cars was wonderful.    Though I must add that an equal high point to the day for me was our totally nude hike to Shatterack falls and beyond.     As John has noted,  that the hike took us over a hilltop in a Massachusetts wildlife management area and down to the falls.     Since the falls were representative of the season, thus underwhelming, we decided to hike another mile and a half downhill to the Westfield river for our second swim of the day which was well worth our effort.    When one hikes down hill for two miles or so for the prize, enjoying every minute nude, there is a dark troubling feeling lurking in the recesses of the mind about what is to come.    If one cherishes a good cardio workout, our hike two miles, 850ft rise, straight uphill back to our cars was equally rewarding.    About four miles total round trip, perhaps a bit more, several hours, and not a soul to be seen, nor a scrap of rag needed.   

John recommended that we take our lunch upon the banks of the old decommissioned Westfield reservoir along with another obligatory skinny dip, or course.    This site holds some promise as a tenting area for our group in that it is very scenic.    This was as noted, a recognizance mission for our nude hiking group but also passed as a convenient excuse for a bonus nude hiking day.    I was particularly taken by the serene silence of the spot which lasted a good half hour or more before a couple of small groups of youths arrived in the distance.     There are some small suitable flat spots for tents upon the sloping hillside overlooking the lake along with a nice fire pit.    Our only concern is that though seemingly not heavily used by the picnic and dog-walking crowd, the preserve is said to be known to the mountain bike and quad bike enthusiasts for its trails.        The few folks that came in while we were there remained in the distance and were not particularly noisy, and no machines. Their presence did not bother us per say, though we did reach for our cover once for a moment.     However the trails are in good shape, not shredded to bits, so it would seem that overall usage for any form of diversion remains low to moderate.       

Later in the day at the trailhead for the KAB recreational area (Keystone Arch Bridge), we were greeted by the sight of numerous parked cars, on a Wednesday!    We had to park in the lower overflow lot.     So this being Massachusetts, we proceeded initially with some minimal but legally mandated gesture to the notion of clothing.     As it turned out, we only encountered one couple walking the return direction, then another further down the trail.    One solitary hiker was following us inbound for a while before turning around.    Our surprise was arriving after two miles of pleasant walking, to the iconic old railroad arch and discovering that no one was there.    Where did the crowds go?    We could have done the walk in nude, but better safe than sorry.     Of course, we claimed our  prize, occupied the site and completed our day in the best of skinny dipping and nude walking tradition as John has described with his photos above.   We only encountered rain right at the end of the day on that final walk back along the KAB.    Even then it may have cleared stragglers off this public trail so we could walk along it nude.    Many thanks again John.


PS Jbee, as soon as the COVID19 travel restrictions from afar are lifted in New England, you really should consider coming east and joining us, perhaps next summer.    I would enjoy meeting and sharing with you face to face after all of these years.   Between all of us here, I'm certain that lodging hospitality for you can be arranged.

Free Range Naturism / Re: Solstice hike in Vermont, June 20
« on: June 22, 2020, 06:50:50 AM »
John, I just incorporated Milt's report into my report posted here moments ago.    Sorry, I forgot that SMF lists everything "upside down" so I did not see your latest post including his report because I expected it to be at the top of the thread, not the bottom.    I'll have to get used to that here unless there is a toggle that I can use to change the display order.     Thanks for putting Milt's report up here.     I hope Kathy is doing well now.    I'll talk to you soon.


Free Range Naturism / Summer Solstice Hike, Vermont USA
« on: June 22, 2020, 06:26:52 AM »
Nude greeting everyone.    Its been quite a while since I have posted here with you all.    Sorry about my long absence, lots of good things going on these past few years, many travels across the globe, and not enough time to be active on line.    COVID has changed many things.....maybe more free time to post?   We'll see.    However to start, I thought that I'd share a bit with you about yesterdayís great hike that John posted a lead to last week in his previous thread.   Our group's annual hike is a gesture of appreciation for the tradition among through-hikers on the Appalachian Trail (USA grand daddy to all long distance hiking trails) to hike naked on the day of the Summer Solstice.     We have been organizing this hike to take place in Vermont for at least a decade and a half without fail. We moved our hike this year to an alternate trail up the east side of the Somerset Reservoir in southern Vermont which is closer to where many of us must travel from other nearby states in which we live.   The COVID travel restrictions have put our usual route on a particularly scenic stretch of the AT in the vicinity of Mount Tabor further north in Vermont out of reach for this year.   Somerset Reservoir set deep in the Green Mountain range is a most appropriate alternative venue.    The hike is an annual 10 mile nude hike for which many of us do not take along any clothing.      Totally free.....nothing in the pack except water, lunch, and this year a neck gator for mouth and nose cover.    Thus most of us got wet this time during a predicted by denied rain storm.  But wet skin is naturally comfortable on a hot summer day.   Far more so than wet clothing I dare say.     

A good friend of ours (John and myself) is one of the co-founders along with the two of us, of an informal but very active New England regional nude hiking group sometimes known as ANANEC. Here is his take:

[begin quote]

The hike was good.  We started out at 10 a.m. with 15 people.  Lance, Dan K, Dan D, and Milton from our group, many regulars from our previous Solstice hikes, along with some new faces as well.

Five, including the 3 women,  turned around at the first cove, not sure why.  But then we picked up one guy whom we passed.  He had driven over from eastern NH for a hike.  Turned out he had participated in a Mt Tabor solstice hike in the past, but didn't know that we were moving it to Somerset this year.  He joined on and hiked with us sans clothing.

The weather held until we got to lunch rock.  Then a thunderstorm hit and the skies opened up.  We moved from our exposed position on the lake shore, to a nearby spot back under the trees.  I was the only one (out of 11 at this point) who had brought rain gear, so I stayed more-or-less dry and everyone else got soaked, but fortunately it was a warm day and a relatively warm rain.  We ate our lunches in the rain and turned back after 25 minutes or so. The rain lasted another 20-30 minutes, but then the sun came out and it was a glorious afternoon on the lake.  Dan D, Dan K and I jumped in the lake for a swim and found it quite comfortably warm.

The total hike was more than 10 miles, according to Rich's device.  Having not hiked since last fall, I was fairly exhausted, and so headed home without ceremony.  Dan, Lance, Mike and Roy (yes, another Roy; uses the handle naturistsoaker) headed back down the trail looking for a spot to get in another swim.

Surely the warmest solstice hike in Vermont that I have yet experienced, with temperatures pushing 80.  Unfortunately, the bugs were annoying (mosquitoes and deer flies), so I felt like I had to keep moving at all times.  I have a few itchy bites today.   

[end quote].

I have tried but failed to attached a photo here of most of our group at the start, taken in the parking lot in full view of the general public near the boat launch for the lake.   Such is a freedom in Vermont that few living in other parts of the USA enjoy.   Milton has observed that we look like a bunch of proper Englishmen, what with our formal social distance posing.     Ah, the sacrifices that we must make to our "new normal".    Maybe hugs again next year?

Alas, I don't have Irfanview installed on this computer.    Native Windows photo editor seems blind to all file formats but JPEG, so I'm unable to massage the file to the size and format constraints to attachments here.  I'll re-post the photo soon when I get back on my other computer.

Stay well.   Play naked.


Free Range Naturism / NEWT2017
« on: July 26, 2017, 04:33:07 PM »
Sitting next to John and across from Ralph on German Rail ICE 107 heading down through Germany from London in route to a couple days layover in Lucern Switzerland. Final destination being NEWT 2017. Past three days spent in NW Wales with our good friends Chris and Penny enjoying the finest of nudity that Wales has to offer. Summited Snowdon on the first day including some nude trail time on the way back down to our trail head, a full day of nude trekking up in the hills the second day, and a glorious morning of nude running for three or four miles on the beach in Anglesey capped by a couple of bracing skinny dips in the Atlantic. We hope to find some more nude time in the mountains down lake from Lucern tomorrow. Of course we could have just flown from London to Munich but where's the adventure in that? With Seat 61 blog as our guide, John has expertly crafted us a magnifent train adventure through the Swiss Alps and into Austria over the next couple of days. More nude adventure awaits. We may see a few of you  on Saturday.


General Naturism Discussion / Re: Naked Hiking Day
« on: June 20, 2017, 07:42:10 PM »
I had planned an overnight up Sbino Canyon to Hutchin's Pool, at about 3500 to 4000 feet, dipping in the ponding stream to stay cool. The forecast is 112F, stinkin' sweltering too hot...NO WAY! Doing a Solistice thing at the henge cuts back on a mountain trip and DF has to work.

The low will be around 82F give or take in the upper elevation of the Tortolitas. The moon shall be coming up with the sunset, so it should be adequately high by midnight to light up the whole mountain range close to like daylight. SO, we may get up into the hills and be hiking into the new day as it occurs on the clock. 80F's is a nice walk in the evening, nude. The view is awesome.

It never got this hot until 1989. The weather has changed dramatically.

Wish us luck,

Our ANANEC club Solstice Hike is to be tomorrow in the refreshing Green Mountain range in central Vermont.     Ten miles without a net on the Long Trail.      Weather predicted to hit mid 70s with chance of afternoon thunder shower.     We'll be thinking of you guys out in the desert tomorrow.       

Moonlight hikes in the 80s sound just charming JBee and Duane.      I do just about all of my local nude hiking and trail running in the Blue Hills reservation under the light of the moon, for me, a way to dodge textiles.     Even crossing a six lane highway on a foot bridge during my runs.    A magical time of the day out this way as well.     The Blue Hills Reservation is the south shore equivalent of the Middlesex Fells just north of Boston that John has written about here.    It is just under a two mile trail run from my back steps to the delightful nude swimming hole called Ponkapog Pond near the base of Great Blue Hill.     So run-swim-run has become one of my favored workout options.     Of course if I do it early morning or during the day, I have to wear one of my skirts but can often slip into the water skinny if no one is looking.

In any case, good luck on your nocturnal Solstice hikes tonight JBee and Duane.


Suggestions / Re: Posting pictures to the forum
« on: June 20, 2017, 07:00:59 PM »
Thank you JOhn


Free Range Naturism / Re: The car key problem
« on: June 20, 2017, 03:35:35 AM »
I ran across this while I was looking for those photos in the post from John about the pub meeting.

Dan Freewalkerma up above told me that my technique of leaving the key on one of the tyres wasn't secure enough: "Everyone knows about that". I'm gonna show him. One of these days we'll go on a trip together and when he's not looking, I'll take his keys from that nook he uses and put them somewhere else. Ha ha ha I will go.

So, John, did you make good on that? :D
Itís not like youíre reaaalllly gettingí busted. :P

You DID post it on a public forum! :)


Of course, should that happen John, the well being of my keys will be on your watch, and you shall have to assure that I get home without offending any of those "professional fussbudgets".


Trip reports / Re: Pulled over
« on: June 20, 2017, 03:03:26 AM »
Sorry I couldn't successfully un-nest your nested quotes JBee.

Quoting you:   
A "respectful dialog with...." Man that has become such a tall order anymore, IF you can get any dialog with them. I've just been on a tally list and generic letter dialog as of late. They may listen to groups but...political!

It certainly is a tall order Jbee.     That is one unfortunate present reality that can not be disputed.     However in the broad shadow of obstructionism that has been honed to a fine art by one certain political party this past eight years and is rapidly being adopted by the other in turn, I was merely trying to sound a bit less polarizing in my approach to suggesting a way forward......trying to hang on to the last shreds of an optimism that I try to embrace as I go about my life.    Our legislative bodies are certainly not going to accomplish much alone in their present state, nor is much change going to be accomplished by external pressure from advocacy groups alone, but if I were to interpret our 200 some years of history as a nation with ration of optimism, I might observe that our young nation has been in similar if not the same sorry state many times through the past, yet good has come of it despite imperfection.


I found a post by John, seen here, but Dan isnít mentioned. So Iím not sure if that is the one.

Unfortunately, all of Johnís photos that are on Dropbox are no longer available for viewing.


No Duane, our day in Sussex of which I speak was not a day out with the Wramblers.    From what I can gather from John and from Richard Collins, the Wramblers as a group are not likely to officially include a naked pub crawl as an after party for any of their regularly scheduled hikes.    I have not yet had an opportunity to participate in one of their regular hikes though I would love to do so in order to experience one dimension of what you guys here who hale from the other side of the pond are up to these days.    Alas, for our visit to England this coming summer our schedule once again does allow time.     Our hike and the following activity that day three summers ago was loosely planned by us and wholly unsanctioned by any formal organization.    It was simply a day with friends suggest by John and myself and plotted by Richard Collins.     There is photographic record of our time on the  beach at Cruckmere Haven and our hiking across the Seven Sisters, but I'm not sure there is anything from our time on the village green....too busy with BEER.



Trip reports / Re: Dan and me in the Fells
« on: June 20, 2017, 02:22:19 AM »
A three sided rustic stop with extra camping sounds okay, maybe convenient.

Is there an alternative to the luxury hut system? I wouldn't want to bunk with 30 people, I'd want to bunk with DF. I don't want to sit in line for food at a specific time, I prefer my own. The fee has to be higher, I don't need to pay for no stinkin' badges.

I have often wondered about these shelters, thanks for filling in the gigantic gaps.

The luxury huts exist only within the most heavily used areas of the Whites and in one location in the Chairbacks as I noted above.     There is a network of interconnecting trails in the Whites that flank the main trail such that I believe it is possible to through-hike the Whites by taking advantage of a limited number of tent only sites that have been provided along the side trails for such preference.    This would add mileage though....not always a bad thing depending upon your goals.     In the Chairbacks, it is possible to simply bypass the luxury hut there and reach other conventional  huts before and after along the main trail.

Most anywhere within the conventional hut system, if you are tenting, other hikers will respect yours and DF's privacy as much as is possible in a shared tenting area.     Also, with luck on many occasions you could have an entire hut site or at least the entire tenting area to yourself. 


Trip reports / Re: Dan and me in the Fells
« on: June 20, 2017, 01:06:03 AM »
Quote from: JohnP
Hikers have to share shelters along the way, and those can get pretty crowded. I've asked them if there's a protocol for undressing if one needs to do that, and they've said that it amounts to "Neither a peeper nor a flasher be". In other words, do what you need to do without making a show of it, and don't embarrass anyone by staring.

Iíve heard that. Are there backpacking camp sites or is everyone required to use a shelter each night. No pitching-out on the trail at designated primitive sites?


The primitive shelter system on the AT and on the LT has been in place for many decades and is well accepted.    It is a means to control unintentional damage throughout a very long point to point trail corridor that would otherwise occur were indiscriminate camping to be allowed anywhere along the trail.   Because the trail exists within a narrow corridor that extends much of the length the east coast, there isn't as much opportunity for backpacking recreation to spread out over large expanses as in the west, though there are numerous side trails that serve as feeders for the main trail.    Thus there is more risk of concentrated wear and tear on a narrowly defined foot bed.   The "huts" or camps if you will because most also allow for tenting as well, are located about a half days' hike apart along the length of the trails.    Some of the busier huts are staffed with a volunteer caretaker.   A nominal donation is asked by the conservancy at these.    A central feature of a typical overnight "hut" is a three sided rustic structure sized to sleep about eight persons upon a single large semi enclosed deck.    Some of these have been upsized to include bunks that double the capacity and have come to resemble the oldest historic fully enclosed huts in floorplan.   The newest ones that have replaced older structures at the busiest locations have grown into full blown unheated cabins that can accommodate  up to 30 people.    Everything is shared across gender.    Most huts provide a source of filtrable water within a half mile radius, and all provide a composting outhouse.      Most of these sites also provide, if topography permits, enough tenting space to effectively double the overnight capacity of the camp.     There are a few camps that provide only tenting space and not an actual sleeping structure.    Huts are located anywhere from  20 yards to 3/4 of a mile off the main trail to further lessen impact upon the trail bed itself.    "Stealth" camping at other locations along the trail  is not unheard of, but strongly discouraged both by the conservancies that oversee the trails and by the hikers themselves, seen by all as bad trail etiquette except in emergencies.    Similarly, "pack-in, pack-out" is nearly universally embraced by all and the results speak for themselves.   

Along the AT as it passes through the Whites in New Hampshire and now also in the Chairbacks of Maine is a network of "full service" huts operated by the Appalachian Club headquartered in Boston.    More like the  famed huts in Switzerland and Austria in the Alps that virtually turn the art of hiking into a gentlemen's sport, this style of hut generally requires fore-planning and advance reservations along with a noticeably stiffer fee for use.    In return you receive heated communal bunk rooms (share across gender) with mattress, hot showers where practical, and hearty prepared suppers and breakfasts.      Though frowned upon by some through-hikers who value solitude above all else, welcomed by other through-hikers as a pleasant change of routine, this controversial but well established luxury hut system helps in overall trail management and preservation because the network of trails in these mountains and the mountains themselves exert a magnetic appeal to an ever growing number of recreational hikers of every stripe.

John has also spoken here of yet another variation of smaller "limited service" hut that includes a small fully enclosed cabin, tent sites, and prepared breakfast.    These exist at various points along the AT.    John periodically serves as volunteer caretaker and head (and only) chef at at this type of hut located at Upper Goose Pond in Western Massachusetts.   

Despite so much structure applied to a "wilderness" experience, it is still possible along vast stretches of both the AT and the LT to hike all day without seeing another person on the trail, especially if heading with the northbound flow of through-hikers and not during the forward moving but localized surge of the through-hiker season.    The huts provide a convenient method to pace your hike over several days and and in my opinion enhance the overall experience.     They have stood the test of time in our densely populated eastern seaboard.   


PS.   Over the years of nude hiking these trails, I have always asked of my hut mates, upon arrival how they might feel about my nudity and have been welcomed to be simply naked around camp more often then not.    In the other occasions, my basic wrap of Running Kilt or similar has been sufficient to put others at ease, even in AMC full service huts.    I always sleep naked regardless of type of accommodation (full service or no)  and  I generally venture out at night to answer nature's call without clothing (except at the full service huts).   

Suggestions / Re: Posting pictures to the forum
« on: June 20, 2017, 12:04:37 AM »
I reccomend that you set up your upload defaults to "private" and "restricted."
For practical purposes all picture showing nudity should have the safety filter set to "restricted" regardless of whether they are "private" "public" or restricted to "friends" "family" or both.
There is some leeway on the safety filters if the genitals are not visible but it's better to be safe than sorry.
As you get used to the system you can change the safety filter to "moderate" or "safe" if you wish but there is no need as neither the private/public nor the restricted/moderate/safe options interfere with Ian (milfmog)'s method.

You set your upload defaults by clicking on your avatar in the top right corner of the screen and selecting "Settings" and the "Privacy and Permissions" tab. The defaults for new uploads are about halfway down the page and you change the settings by clicking on the "(edit)" on the right.

Must you review and re-set defaults every time you upload, or can one safely assume that they will remain as you left them between sessions JOhn?


Trip reports / Re: Pulled over
« on: June 19, 2017, 11:55:21 PM »
Jbee, I have had the same reaction while in Zion. It is an example of how a national park can get loved to death. Itís the problem of having to advertise the parks so people come in order to justify the federal budget expenses, yet the result is a park that is so busy it takes away from the natural experience you hope for. I understand that and know it is the way it will be for a long time.


The upside of this Duane is that these promotional policies tend to funnel people predictably into a relatively small number well known areas, thus leaving an awful lot of federal and locally overseen swaths of conservation land under various modes of management that are virtually free of visitors for much of the year.     Just what most of us are looking for.    Sure some of the most beautiful and spectacular places like Zion,.....Acadia in my neck of the woods, may be considered lost to our way of thinking, but they might well have been totally lost to all of us before our time, were it not for these same promotional policies that encourage very large numbers of people to see and appreciate in some sense what is at stake.    My fear for the "forgotten" places is over the increasing pressure and willingness within the current political climate to open up or even totally give back some of these priceless spaces for exclusive coorporate, even private exploitation for profit.     There will never be a perfect-for-all solution in public policy, but we all must be on guard and do our best to identify and support our favorite advocacy groups in their efforts to curb and blunt the effect of these pressures and to maintain a respectful dialogue with our elected representatives about these issues. 


Sounds familiar, Dan. I seem to remember seeing pictures about a group of guys sitting in a pub. It might have been one of John's posts.

Was that here on FRN or on the old TSNS site. I canít recall.


If John got any photos of this session up, it would likely have been on TSNS site as this took place summer of two or three years ago.     We are headed back to the UK again this summer to nude hike in Wales, Austria and Bavaria.     Might even be able to start another naked pub crawl.


Trip reports / Re: Back to the saddle, again!
« on: June 19, 2017, 05:12:49 AM »
I very much enjoyed reading your report Duane.   Your love of this place just radiates off the page.    It must be so nice to be able to get out on a promising day before others hit a trail.     I'm surprised that more people there don't go out of the way to be out early to beat the heat as you do.     Do enjoy your Solstice Hike.    I will be thinking of you as we tramp the mountains nude in Vermont on Wednesday.

Many years ago Jbee, as you suggest, it was hard for me, a person from away to see much of interest in photos of the desert landscape other than perhaps swaths of rich color and some strange rock formations seen from afar.    Now having had the opportunity to hike some desert, scramble over those rocks, across broad washes, and up slot canyons, flavored by unthinkable (to me) extremes of temperature, all nude of course, over the past few years during visits, it is still difficult to see much more of interest in the average photo, but my vivid memories allow me to fill in a wealth of detail that one can only experience by being there.    The desert is a rich and amazingly vibrant place that is best felt, touched and seen close up.    It makes one wonder what we might be missing in the NASA photos from our nearby planets by merely viewing them and observing our robotic scout data as best we can.    One can only imagine!

However, being the native Easterner that I am, after  a few weeks of living naked in what to me is exotic extremes that you guys call home, I am ready for the soft embrace of dense green forest, alpine meadow, and pleasant bodies of abundant surface water in which to skinny dip.    Please don't misunderstand, I embrace your home turfs for what they are, amazing must sees, yet  recognize the phenomena that most of us are drawn back after time to a place that we have come to accept as home.     However for me, the urge to push out and explore soon returns.    I must be restless already.    Why else would I enjoy and crave with envy the rich world of the desert that my imagination conjours in viewing your photos and reading your words Duane and Jbee.      Thank you.



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