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Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: May 24, 2020, 03:39:39 PM »
Smile!  You're on Candid Camera.

My reaction to people with long lens cameras has always been to smile and wave.   Sometimes they get embarrassed and leave.

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Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: May 20, 2020, 03:07:42 PM »
We don't need an "excuse" to be naked.   The other person needs an excuse to be ashamed of himself or herself. 

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I prefer beer to be beer without additions, just like cheese. I can't personally be bothered with cheese with sage etc.

I fully agree with that.   Too many silly folk put all kinds of crap in their beer.  Beer should be beer. 


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Whilst on the subject of cheese who likes yarg, which is a semi-hard cow's milk cheese made in Cornwall? Davie  8)


Can't say that I've ever tried yarg.   I haven't made it to Cornwall wither so maybe that's why.


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There are nettles in the NW coast of the US and Canada.   Don't know if they are the are the same species or a variety  They seem to like damp or wet areas.

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Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: May 03, 2020, 07:18:42 PM »
Around here a legal "fence" has to have at least 4 wires.   If there are only 3 wires it may be a cattle pen, but in legal disputes it is not a "fence."  That apparently comes from the old west days when there were large legal disputes over cattle grazing area and how "fenced" they had to be.  Another old law says that being caught on someone else's land with a fence cutting tool has a sever penalty. 

3 wire cattle pens are usually quite a bit easier to get over or through.   I agree with JBee about getting clothing caught while trying to get over or through a barbed wire fence.  The barb can catch a  wayward wrinkle and end up tearing your nicest hiking outfit. 

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Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: May 01, 2020, 04:50:52 AM »
Around here almost all of the land is private property, and almost all is surrounded by miles of barbed wire fences with signs saying "No hunting or trespassing" on the fence every 100 feet or so.  Even much public land, like the Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge is surrounded by barbed wire with signs telling us that its federal government land, and NO Trespassing.  There is a little public access land but most of that is open range cattle grazing with money paid to the state.  Open range cattle can be dangerous if encountered alone on foot. 

On my own land, 20 acres, I took down the barbed wire and signs that previous owners had installed.  I don't mind walkers, but I don't like motor vehicles tearing up the vegetation. 

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Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« on: April 22, 2020, 06:22:30 PM »
All our state parks, federal parks, national wildlife refuges, national forests, golf courses, etc. etc. are CLOSED.  So are public beaches, fishing, hunting, and any other kind of outdoor recreation venues.   It makes no sense, and none of the state or federal government employees are missing their paychecks. 

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: April 15, 2020, 04:37:40 PM »
As for Chloroquine  Not proven as a treatment or preventative. Neither has it been subject of peer review. Treat any claims with caution.
Davie

My above linked research report by the US Center for Disease Control, and published by the National Institute for Health is highly credible peer reviewed sources, about as good as it gets in the US.  They summarized chloroquine as an inexpensive, relatively safe, and effective for prophylactic (prevention) and cure of coronavirus.  They said that chloroquine could be used to stop the spread, and cure coronavirus.

This is not new science.  Coming out this year and claiming their own research is "anecdotal" is lying to the people while thousands die.  They are putting political motivation ahead of their own science and causing the deaths of many thousand.

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: April 14, 2020, 06:13:54 PM »
Shoes can carry coronavirus.    Wash your shoes.    (Or don't wear shoes and wash your feet)

https://footwearnews.com/2020/focus/news/shoes-can-carry-coronavirus-cdc-1202965214/

Chloroquine is safe and effective prophylactic to stop the spread of coronavirus, and treatment for the disease.  From National Institute of Health, 2005.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/?fbclid=IwAR0MdIBDRrD0_QeFSl_jOEntEnrz-Ntf8lNyjwbd0ER4ByovQJlbKUlG6ds

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Favourite places for free range naturism
« on: April 05, 2020, 12:54:27 AM »
Saw this video on Twitter.   Naked drumming on the street corner in Wales.  Good going mate. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1246108067940511745

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: April 04, 2020, 02:57:12 PM »
I'd like to know that your source is good. That would be very important good news. What is the source? Could it be that Smith just wants to draw attention to himself?   Jbee

These days, Jbee, people do need to be suspicious of all the Fake News.   But the **Smith Center for Infectious Diseases in New Jersey** is the real deal.  I was suspicious at first too, but I did some research.  It been there for years and is a very reliable source about infectious diseases.  More reliable than political motivated government agencies.   

https://www.smithcenternj.org/   

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The people who had a positive reaction were not very sick. They were not in the hospital, and not likely to die. They were not saved by it. There were positive results. Nobody got off of their death bed, with an injection, or IV.

Yes, people have gotten up off their death bead after IV with hydroxychloroquine.   There was a widely reported news story about a guy in Florida who had said goodbye to his family after doctors told him he had no hope.  Then another doctor started the Hydroxychloroquine IV and in a few hours he was up and celebrating his recovery. 

From the NY Post and numerous other news sources, "March 22: "A Florida man diagnosed with coronavirus claims he was saved from certain death by an anti-malaria drug touted as a possible treatment by President Trump."   "After more than a week, doctors told him there was nothing more they could do and, on Friday evening, Giardinieri said goodbye to his wife and three children. I was at the point where I was barely able to speak and breathing was very challenging, Giardinieri said. I really thought my end was there.

First link on my search: https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florida-man-with-coronavirus-says-drug-touted-by-trump-saved-his-life/

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They were not in the hospitals dying with complications. The stuff gets people who have predisposed, or lack of health and they die of that, yes. It is often more a combo thing. Old and frail, lung issues, immune system glitches, it is the hammer in the coffin. I don't know about the stats that you present, but people are dying from it at alarming rates. 16% hospitalized is very high 

I'm sorry about your friend.  The standard medical training for viruses says "there is nothing we can do."  Many people with underlying medical problems have died of it, but your friend may not have died if the doctors had given her hydroxychloroquine.  This is a real game changer.   And many doctors who treat with the hydroxychloroquine do report 100% recovery.  That doesn't save someone who is otherwise dying of cancer or heart failure, etc.  More than 12,000 people per day die in the USA, but they do not have to die from Covid-19. 

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: April 03, 2020, 08:38:29 PM »
Got a friend in ICU for the last ten days. Nobody knows if she'll make it. Got another at home, who can't taste anything. Just a mild fever. It varies. Jbee

Even people in ICU on ventilators who were "hopeless," and given last rites, have been saved by an IV with hydroxychloroquine.  Trouble is most doctors aren't using it, and many people are dying. 

All my life I've been told "there is no effective treatment for a virus."   I'm sure most doctors were taught that in med schools.  Your friend is being treated by a medical team that believes that old dogma, and it was probably true until very recently.   

The game has now changed.  Thousands of patients are being saved by hydroxychloroquine.  Many doctors report 100% cure with only mild symptoms.  No hospital.  No deaths. 

CDC, FDA, and many doctors are holding out for a patent medication that big pharma corps can charge huge prices for.   NO, the money isn't worth watching people die while they refuse to treat people with a cheap generic cure.

I'm sorry about your friend.   Someone needs to get those doctors to learn a new treatment.

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: April 03, 2020, 08:32:49 PM »
If someone says the figures are being exaggerated produce the figures and the evidence. The figures I'm looking at are based on good academic sources.  If there is such an exaggeration why are the New York Health service about to be overwhelmed, as is happening in Spain and Italy. ... or is all this happening on a film set! Davie  8)

Italy admitted that only 12% of their reported Covid-19 deaths actually died of Covid-19.  The admission was by the technical advisor of their Minister of Health after reviewing all the reported deaths.  Another report a few days later said it was only about 1%.

The fear mongers count everyone who dies of anything (cancer, heart attack, car crash, etc.) and also has a positive test for Covid-19.   That is dishonest FAKE NEWS and FEAR MONGERING by government and the Media.  That's all the bullshit we get from media and government in the US too.  If it weren't for Fake News, there wouldn't be any new at all sometimes. 

And, the Media has all attacked President Trump for suggesting that hydroxychloroquine was a possible treatment.  They don't want a cure, they want a disaster.  Media is like that.  Hurst once sent a team to start a war in South America to sell more newspapers. 

Its time for the doctors and politicians to treat the sick with the known cure, stop grandstanding for Fake News cameras,  and let us get back to work. 

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: April 03, 2020, 08:18:57 PM »
Bob, here are pictures and a video from New York. You can believe it's serious or not.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/nyc-hospital-resumes-use-of-forklift-to-move-bodies-amid-coronavirus/

Out of 350,000,000 people, more than 12,000 people per day die in the US.  That's around 500 in New York City, many in that hospital.   That fork lift to move bodies is NOT a new thing for covid-19.  That's their regular long standing method of moving heavy dead bodies out of their hospital.  That story you posted asserting its something horrific because of Covid-19 is FAKE NEWS. 

We need to be realistic and not listen to fear mongering and fake news.   

Dr. Smith, the founder of the **Smith Center for Infectious Diseases in New Jersey** says that they have had 100% effective treatment with hydroxychloroquine.  Patients get mild flu like symptoms and then you're cured.  Nobody dies.  Nobody need a hospital.  Total "Game Changer," he said.   He also said that previous severe cases they saw were ALL diabetic of pre-diabetic.  The child were very high pre-diabetic.  That last could be new research.

Now that a safe and effective treatment has been identified, and demonstrated, its time to change the game.  Treat the illness, and don't simply wave hands until they need hospitals and respirators. What is killing people is foot dragging by the medical industry waiting to make big money on the disease. 

And, its time we all went back to work.  The game has changed.

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: FRN During Lockdowns
« on: April 03, 2020, 04:23:26 AM »
"Always, always, always question authority." I got some trouble from that.

Yes.  I don't buy this whole mass hysteria that "authority" has fear mongered everyone into panic mode.   We all survived H1N1, Asian flu, SARS, Bird flu, and ordinary flu.  Most people who get Covid-19 don't get serious symptoms.  The "official" death count is greatly exaggerated.  I don't trust that they tell us.

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