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Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: September 09, 2019, 03:45:26 PM »
I came across the SNS some years ago but even then, I was put off by the idea of deliberate stealth, as if it was a game. I wanted simply to become more comfortable with what is natural.

You got my vote Martin.  Well said.

Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« on: September 01, 2019, 03:57:30 AM »
Personally I much prefer Free Range Naturism to Secret Naturism.   For those of you who prefer to hide, go right ahead.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: People who've given up washing
« on: August 31, 2019, 03:01:39 PM »
I don't see how you can claim that wearing clothes is not normal when 99.99% of the world's population does so, all the time.

Mass psychosis combined with herd mentality.

How can anyone claim that clothing is "normal" when 99.99% of species never do it? 

Suggestions / Re: Uh oh!
« on: August 29, 2019, 04:23:34 PM »
According to CNN, which obtained a copy of

CNN is anti-trump lies and fake news 24/7.   Don't believe ANYTHING you see or hear from CNN about President Trump. 

I'm sure CNN made this up like so much other crap they spew.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 29, 2019, 06:50:14 AM »
A round of golf is a 6 mile hike through a beautiful green landscape.  It even has a little competition to give you some focus while out walking.  Many people appreciate doing that.  Much better if we could all play naked.

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 26, 2019, 08:27:02 PM »
Koepka ended up getting 2nd in the FedEx 2019 Tour Championship.   2nd Prize was $5 Million.  Being naked on the side of a barn at the tournament didn't seem to hurt his golf any.   Very good worldwide publicity for nudity, and for being comfortable being seen naked. 

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 24, 2019, 01:58:15 AM »
Okay, but golf? Something wrong with bowling?

A lot of influential people pay and watch golf.  Getting nude among golfers is good publicity.

Brooks Koepka Slams Critics of Nude ESPN ‘Body Issue’: ‘They Don’t Have the Balls to Do It’

Watching the PGA Golf Tour Championship today.  $15,000,000 prize for winner.   One of the leaders is Brooks Kepka.  The TV golf coverage showed his nude photo which is larger than life on a building beside the parking lot where golfers arrive.  He sidestepped reporter questions and said he's just there to play golf.

I love to see this kind of publicity for major sports people being seen Larger Than Life naked and on major sports TV.  The announcers talked about it for several minutes.  It gives normalcy for nude champions and other people.  ESPN is a big sports TV venue so their publication of nude athletes is also good for nude in general.

PGA rules don't allow players to wear shorts, long pants, etc. are required on the golf course. 


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General Naturism Discussion / Re: People who've given up washing
« on: August 17, 2019, 12:45:48 AM »
Speaking of military sleeping bags. Those old tents and denim covered metal canteens, all had that particular smell about them. New, or old. What was that? Mold? Materials?

I think the old WWII surplus canvas materials had a particular smell because of some kind of preservative used during the war. It kept the cotton canvas from rotting in the jungles but had a chemical odor.   

General Naturism Discussion / Re: People who've given up washing
« on: August 16, 2019, 05:03:03 PM »
Here we are back to the condition of a body being cooped up in clothing. A body needs to breathe. A body isn't designed to be in clothing. It tolerates it. It is designed to tolerate quite a lot of conditions.
Jbee (again)

Being uncovered and our body secretions allowed to evaporate from natural ventilation is a large part of staying healthy in my observation. 

Quote from: ric
i still dont come into the house just to pee in the toilet,  even on occasions go out in the garden to pee rather than flush it away with 2 gallons of potable (allegedly) water.  weve even gone back to drinking pure unadulterated well water rather than the chlorinated mains water.

Agreed Ric.  When I pee on my lawn it turns darker green in that place because the grass feels more loved.  Recycling my body waste back to green plants is my way of giving myself back to the earth.   As the saying goes, "The grass is always greener above the drain field." 

We live 10 miles past the end of city water so all we get is well water.  The city has their own wells too, but they add chlorine or something. 

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 16, 2019, 04:43:48 PM »
I believe that men who say exhibitionism is harmless need to hear about it from a woman. As with a fair number of male behaviors, actually.

A lot of men complain about female behavior too.   Somehow behavior only becomes criminal when men do it.   I still see no harm in exhibitionism that rises to a level above being rude.  Nobody has ever been able to document someone suffering actual harm from seeing another member of his or her own species.  If such documentation exists, nobody has ever been able to point to it on the many time's I've asked on public forums.

I am not so condescending about women being too frail to see men.  Condescension is sometimes said to be the worst form of prejudice. Women are much stronger than fluffy flowers who fall into mush upon seeing a man.  Even when she cries, "Boo hoo, I'm a victim," no, she is not.

Reading the above link to DSM, the Shrinks say Exhibitionism is a form of "paraphilia" I had to look up a definition for paraphilia. 

Paraphilia is the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviors, or individuals. Such attraction may be labeled sexual fetishism. No consensus has been found for any precise border between unusual sexual interests and paraphilic ones.Wikipedia

The shrinks are not able to form a consensus regarding what sexual interest is unusual and what is not.  On its face it could be argued that gay or lesbian is Paraphilia, but of course all the gay, lesbian, and PC shrinks would object to that just because.  Far better to attack men who get sexually aroused around women.   

I still fail to see where any exhibitionism amounts to anything more than being rude.   Despite all the hysteria, I have never seen any documented evidence that anyone of either sex or any age has ever actually been harmed by seeing another member of his or her own species.  In general, its another way to hate men and punish men as criminals for emotion driven behavior.  All that hate is just wrong for a decent society. 

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 15, 2019, 07:21:33 PM »
I had a friend in Michigan, an old high school buddy, who was put on probation for taking a leak behind a Circle K convenience mart. That was his story. The a few years later he did some time for exposing himself while driving past a school bus filled with girls. I always thought that his compulsion could have been different with an outlet. He was a product of a repressive society, if he could be in a more nudist environment he would not have the associations that gave what he did in its context. He associated the nude body with sex, excitement, arousal, naughty and special, with an emphasis on genitalia. The society gave him that.

The guy in the photo has several arrests for behavior that really only amounts to being rude in a sexual way.  He "exposed himself" to women.  Oh the horror.  The haters have him labeled "sex offender" and locked in prison much of the time.  My thinking is that his behavior and that of your former Michigan friend is basically driven by hormos and biology, frustrated sexual feelings. The culture has no more need to punish "indecent" behavior than gay or lesbian behavior.  Its emotional and not harmful to others.  At worst its rude. 

I never got to talk to him about it all. Haven't been up there in many years. So, certainty eludes me. There is most likely more to it, but basically.... He had a rebellious nature, he didn't get much female attention in High school, dunno what he was feeling, he could have found other ways to deal with what was deep seated, but basically, in a different orientation out of common social context....

Repressed sexual needs sometimes push people into doing rape or worse actual harmful crimes.  Much of that would go away if commercial sex was not so heavily outlawed.  When they block people's powerful biological desires it doesn't go away, it just comes out in another way. Outlawing prostitution or nudity does not make people's desires go away. It just creates worse problems.     

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 15, 2019, 06:08:04 PM »
He got arrested a couple of hours later.  He was already on probation as a "sex offender." 

General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: August 14, 2019, 12:15:45 AM »
Found this on Facebook.   Naked guy in downtown Spokane, WA, USA, late at night.  The Facebook discussion is about an upcoming election for Mayor in which homeless people and drug use down town has become a major issue. 

Giving the FB link a try on this forum.

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