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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Clothing can be Unhealthy
« on: July 21, 2019, 05:23:38 PM »
(Caution: if you are offended by "Pagan" talk skip this article)

I'm not sure if this is about being unhealthy.  Its about how clothing restricts being wild.  I found it on Facebook today.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/agora/2014/09/the-zen-pagan-wild-naked-pagans/?fbclid=IwAR3HYdKhx9izTq-kwvOc5bVa4EFN0cwTU15MA1t1WLCWzOm_08wBV1crCT8

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Skinny-dippin' with St Ethelflaeda!
« on: July 13, 2019, 04:59:49 PM »
Time was when US Presidents went skinny dipping in the Potomac river.  Nobody though too much of it and mostly didn't bother to write down about it. I read one account of a female lobbyist chasing down a President while he was taking his daily naked swim, but mostly it wasn't unusual enough to notice

There were many centuries where Christian priests discouraged bathing because taking care of your body led to pride or other sins. Pope Pius campaigned for more covering of clothes and against low cut dresses or high cut skirts. I suppose there were exceptions.   

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We are living through the first time in all of human history where people suffer from too much food, and too little exercise. For the past million years food was produced or gathered only by expenditure of a great deal of human labor. It was expensive.  Famine was always a worry. The medieval cold times caused global famines that resulted in death of around 1/4 of all Europeans. The immediate cause of death was some illness or other but they were dying because they were half starved.  Even in "good" times like the Roman Empire their slaves suffered from a chronic lack of food. And now, for the first time ever, our "problem" is obesity.  Our bodies evolved to store any extra food we manage to obtain, but now we have machines cultivating and distributing our crops. The extra cost of "supersize me" is trivial for much of our population.

And exercise?  That's become a fancy gym rather than survival. People who hunted or farmed their own food had a cost of body energy to obtain more.  Now we sit at desks and ride in motor vehicles rather than working and walking.  Rather than complaining we ought to be thankful for the abundance our science has created for us. Having plenty of food is a lot more important than what food we have.  Being able to turn away any food because we don't like that kind is an unimaginable luxury that a million years of our ancestors couldn't even dream of.

We are designed to retain and store any extra food we get.  Many people end up eating more than we need, especially when we don't have to do actual work all day. And who can say that war or tech failure will never bring another famine that makes them the survivors.  Often the large people are more healthy, and the wolves are always prowling around just out of sight.

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Clothing can be Unhealthy
« on: July 13, 2019, 04:19:16 PM »
Clothing restricts and cripples our minds as well as out bodies. 

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Free Range Naturism / Re: Eureka!
« on: July 13, 2019, 04:10:13 PM »
Evidence of roadways persist even if the place has been farmed for hundreds of years, although it is difficult to detect on the ground.

Interesting discussion about old roads. Our history is more recent.  The west side of my land includes the remains of a "military road."  In about the middle of the 19th century, the US government established an outpost near Walla-Walla, WA.  That was some time after the Louis and Clark expedition, and before railroads. Young Abe Lincoln was a land surveyor on a survey team that marked the border between the US and Canada. His signature is still on original deeds in these parts.  The US Military built "military" wagon roads between Walla Walla and other parts of the Oregon Territory.

One of the military roads can still be seen where it crosses my property.  The old road winds its way north parallel to our current paved vehicle road. The old wagon road has much less cut and fill, and therefore more corners than the modern 2 lane paved road.  Closer to town there is an old concrete water trough for horses.  The road passes so many ponds and small lakes I sometimes wonder why they thought they needed a watering trough. Maybe carrying water was easier than unhitching a team to keep wagons from getting stuck in mud near the ponds.  Our old road is only about 150 years old, and in some parts was obliterated by the new road. Still it makes a nice path for my naked walks out on the west side of my land when I don't mind being seen by passing cars on the new road.

Bob
 

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Long Time Gone
« on: July 09, 2019, 05:46:43 PM »
Keyless ignition cars:   Last year a woman came to visit one day driving a new car.  When she wanted to go home she could not find her keys. We all spend an hour looking for her keys and didn't find them.  At last she tried the "START" button and her car started right up.  She also stopped for gas on her way home.  Her keys were eventually located at home by her bathroom sink.  Her Keyless car didn't seem to mind.    I wonder how many other keyless cars work that way. 

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« on: June 30, 2019, 06:47:46 PM »
French nudists protest Burka Muslims at swimming pools.

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Hundreds of French nudists are threatening to "bare all" against burkini-clad bathers in an unlikely showdown at public baths in Grenoble as an ongoing row over the body-covering garment has resurfaced in the heatwave.

The city in southeastern France - which is sweltering in temperatures of over 40 degrees Celsius - obliges women to wear one-piece swimming costumes close to the body in swimming pools while men must wear Speedo-style trunks rather than shorts, for hygiene and security reasons.





https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/27/french-nudists-burkini-bathers-heatwave-pool-standoff/?

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Free Range Naturism / Re: The Art of Free Range Naturism
« on: June 28, 2019, 04:25:43 PM »
Nude in the UK explained.  As usual, its clear as mud.  It's not illegal to be naked, but neither is police/government harassment. 

https://inews.co.uk/light-relief/offbeat/naked-public-topless-legal-uk-laws-top-off-summer-weather-heatwave/

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Free Range Naturism / Re: newTumbl
« on: June 17, 2019, 07:27:53 PM »
I have noticed that "nudist" web sites have very few women posting compared to men nudists.  However, on sites like old Tumblr or now NewTumblrm, Reddit, and many amateur "porn" sites there is a massive and ongoing parade of women posting sexual pictures of themselves. 

Old Tumblr used to have lots and lots of naked women in sexual poses.  When Tumblr banned sexual nudity many of the women move to newTumblr or somewhere else.  But they still don't post on this site, or many other "nudist" sites.  On MeWe nudist pages i subscribe to its almost all men posting with only very occasional women.

I really don't know why that is.  I'm sure there is some deep psychological thing going on that is probably not PC to talk about.  I don't know why, but I see what I see, and I see many thousand women posting on "self porn" sites while men post on nudist sites. 

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Escapism
« on: June 13, 2019, 02:53:11 PM »
Did Thoreau go naked all summer while "living naturally"?   Anyone read enough of his writing to know?

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Trip reports / Re: A couple of short trips
« on: June 11, 2019, 03:05:34 PM »
That rock looks seriously out of place.  I wonder what the geology is in those parts. 

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Kinda like not reading a book together, Bob?

Haven't had a TV in decades. Had netflixs for a while. Do youtube. If I have a TV, I tend to sit and watch it.

2 people reading a book would be difficult.

My wife is an English professor.  She reads mostly literature and fiction books.  She watches movies and other fiction on TV. 

I have very limited use for fiction in print or video.  I tend to watch sports, documentaries, reality, TV about real men doing real work and achieving real goals.


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We do books and mags, take classes, do a couple of groups, dance, make music, etc.. Better to interact, no matter what the activity. Better to use the body. Most TV melts down a mind eventually. All the TV news is so ridiculously biased, or just flat out government and corporate propaganda these days, it isn't worth watching the news except to get a better idea what the dullards are being taught to think. It is mostly Trump doing something outrageous, so as to make it seem normal so see the world as a hostile circus act, the true issues are glossed over, anyway. Now, another year about a horse race with no substance, totally ignoring the issues.

I ignore TV FAKE news.  Its all hate and propaganda.  Sometimes I check local news for the weather forecast.   There is much more accurate news info on Twitter than on corporate crap media.  For example, we learned today that the "Russian operative" who the Trump Campaign was accused of meeting by the Mueller investigation was actually a Ukrainian employee of Obama's State Department.  He was presenting a proposal for settling the ongoing Crimean conflict.  His meeting with Presidnet Elect Trump's staff was part of his work for the US State Department (and Mueller).   Mueller left all of that out of his "Investigation" report and used the meeting to allege that Trump had secret meetings with Russians.  None of that will ever be learned watching TV FAKE news.

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A naked walk in the woods is certainly more relevant and healthy. Even being one of those people who spend their time getting a perfect tan is more relevant than TV. Eating healthy food of all kinds is also a good substitute. REal living instead of watching a box tell you about things that you can't do anything about, just to sell you on something that you don't need.

We are talking about moving to Arizona where evening walks would be more reasonable for more of the year.  We are again having cold and windy.  Brrrrr.   My wife has not been willing to share naked walks for years.  Sad.


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Free Range Naturism / Re: Everyday Occurances
« on: June 07, 2019, 07:50:19 PM »
However, I agree that a sixteen-year old girl looses all her attractiveness when she is nude.

That's just silly.   Probably common nudist dogma though.

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first hurdle is prising the remote away from the mrs ;)

My wife and I have separate TVs, with headphones, so we have our own remotes and don't have to fight over what channel to watch.   However, i tend to watch mostly at night also.

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Sun Screen wasn't a thing while I was growing up.   As a teen there were ads for "sun tan lotion" which supposedly helped you get a tan more quickly.   We just learned to be careful not to get too much sun. 

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