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Trip reports / Re: Happy Valley Waterfalls
« Last post by jbeegoode on October 18, 2018, 10:33:40 PM »
There is that "good girls don't do this" thing for women, but we know that there is also often a better acceptance for women. We naturists all have our hurdles.

I'm naked with my genitals wholly exposed, and prominent, being evaluated for size sometimes. There is that lone pervert stigma that a man has trust on him, and he must get over the fear of that reaction, confident that it is the others problem and projection.

There is body acceptance, for both sexes, "Oh, my thighs," "I'd better suck it in" textile or non, for example a simple, shoulders back, don't slouch.

Women have their stuff tucked away generally, so that it is often even covered by merely a tuft of hair. Lots of people enjoy a nude woman and will accept that, even be pleased to have them around. On the other hand gawkers.

There is that, "Will they think that my nudity is a sexual thing" for both sexes. 

There is the effective strategy of acting as if there is nothing amiss, which works wonders. Confidence, dignity, self assurance, being friendly are good strategies for all hikers and people on the street when they meet others.

Insecurity/confidence, seem to be part of the human condition, not just for the naked. For some, nakedness is the key to overcome it all.

Thoughts,
Jbee
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Trip reports / Re: French Pyrenees
« Last post by jmf on October 18, 2018, 10:29:52 PM »
A guy on the APNEL site just posted a report of a Pyrenees walk (APNEL is the French initials for "Association for the Promotion of Naturism in Liberty"). But he did it alone, back in the spring.

Jacques, do you ever walk with APNEL people? I thought you might prefer being alone like Olivier, but you evidently did walk in the Pyrenees with a group.


I'm a member of Apnel. But apnel is not really organizing naked hiking. Its role is rather to organize events to publicize nudity in the public space. But of course many members of the apnel hike naked.
I am also a member of an association of naked walkers which is very officially registered and which is affiliated to the French Federation of Walking Hikes: Les Marcheurs Nus du Val de Roanne in the Drôme department.
But I also continue to hike naked alone, as today: a 6h50 hike including 6h30 of nudity.
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Trip reports / Re: French Pyrenees
« Last post by jbeegoode on October 18, 2018, 08:57:29 PM »
Going back in 10 months to do it again!

500 miles is a long trek. I wonder about the terrain. It is all pretty remote by the map. I'd like to hear more.

DF and I, mostly me, have discussed doing the Arizona Trail naked to celebrate 70 years. We'd wouldn't consider doing it without pack animals, so much water would need to be carried. Two old farts might get funding for it...probably need three pairs of shoes for starters.   :D

Jbee
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Trip reports / Re: French Pyrenees
« Last post by John P on October 18, 2018, 08:05:49 PM »
A guy on the APNEL site just posted a report of a Pyrenees walk (APNEL is the French initials for "Association for the Promotion of Naturism in Liberty"). But he did it alone, back in the spring.

Jacques, do you ever walk with APNEL people? I thought you might prefer being alone like Olivier, but you evidently did walk in the Pyrenees with a group.

https://www.apnel.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1304

Badly translated, he said:
Hello everyone

From March 9 to April 10 I crossed the Pyrenees from east to west by the GR 11 (Spanish side). [Note: he means he walked the length of the mountain range, from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic!]

This crossing was made 80-85% naked, the remaining percentage being the crossings of villages, towns, approaches to shelters, some very busy car parks especially the weekend ...

Throughout these 700 to 800 km, I have not encountered any problems with anyone with regards to my outfit. There were people watching their shoes as they passed me, those who didn't care, some but too few who congratulated me for this way of hiking, to one person who moaned to see me naked when he met me (but he did it in Spanish and as I do not speak it ...). And also the one who met me and took pictures of my back, those who smile. In short it was great. My only regret is not having met someone else who was hiking like me.

The only naked person I saw was the day after my arrival while walking along a coastal creek. The person was naked near the water and when he saw me, he almost hid while I walked naked as usual. Bizarre !!
Do not hesitate to do this kind of trip or part.
See you soon,

Olivier

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Trip reports / Re: The Senepy, France
« Last post by nuduke on October 18, 2018, 11:21:41 AM »

Hahaha!
I looked at the photos on this post before I looked at the report link.  I thought..."Where is there a desert region in France?"  "Looks like India or Arabia!"  Then I realised it wasn't one and was the other. 


Spectacular panoramas, Jmf


John
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Trip reports / Re: Happy Valley Waterfalls
« Last post by nuduke on October 18, 2018, 11:17:22 AM »

You are both an inspiration to us all, especially DF as one assumes it is somewhat more challenging for a woman to shed all inhibitions about being observed whether in the flesh or in a picture.  As an example of that, I remember several reports of the past where you have both been carnuding but at certain points where you both can be observed, DF has covered her torso whereas you haven't needed to.  Another example in the opposite sense was recently at the nudist swim, one lady was naked but wore a towel that didn't quite cover her torso to groin completely and thus, ridiculously wandered around with bits of her poking through or the towel dropping off simply to maintain some sort of assumed modesty amongst everyone else that was naked (except the lifeguard! :) ).  It would have been so much better for her dignity and poise if she had simply dropped the pretence of a cover up.  Df is self-liberated well beyond that stage and proud to be naked in nature and therefore her dignity and poise when naked are unchallengeable.


John

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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Crabbing Trip
« Last post by jbeegoode on October 17, 2018, 10:43:17 AM »
Life is up in the air this year. Probably wouldn't make the Festival Nudista, on Feb. 1st. Maybe later, but DF's Moroccan trip could get in the way. Plans could be made the following season. Things will have settled down, more time. Something tells me that the first trip, won't be the last.

Yup, things will be quite different after this hump in the road.

How many of us could we gather? We could make our own Festival Nudista! 8) 8) 8) 8)
Jbee
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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Crabbing Trip
« Last post by Safebare on October 17, 2018, 12:33:44 AM »
I have no experience with the Pacific Coast of Mexico, but reports are cautious. Do not take any chances if you don't have experience with stong surf and riptides. They apparently have people that get in the water, it appears to be a popular surfing spot.
The naked wanderers reported at least 3 hotels that we're at least nude friendly. http://www.nakedwanderings.com/blog/2018/08/02/getting-naked-zipolite-mexico/
The lure is strong. I would probably spend the first 2 weeks barefoot all over. Just using my available time and brain power to find things to do that won't require suiting up.
Should we work on a group trip?


Safebare
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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Crabbing Trip
« Last post by jbeegoode on October 16, 2018, 09:06:01 PM »
Auto-correct? Dungeness! I'm jus' ignorant, but I know how to ask for what I like.

Weather:
We have Halloween costume weather prediction problems here, too. I remember a hard freeze a couple of years. The last few years, we have been at an outdoor venue. Last year, I was Lady Godiva and DF was Eve...in thin flesh colored body suits, comfortably.

Zipolite:
Ziploite? I'm working our way down there. I'm tied up with this house/move/retirement/expenses thing. We were talking about heading down there, but DF is going to Morocco with her women's group in the spring and I still have to bend with the winds of change, and don't know if I'll be free of the project. We may, or may not make it.

It is definitely the plan. I'm thinking a couple of weeks with a couple of days trip up to Oaxaca City and where I used to hang out back in the day...also thinking a month, if I like it.... 8)

I don't know about the dangerous riptide on one side of the beach and what that means for hanging out in the water, or swimming, or wave jumping. The friends that I know who have been there didn't seem to know. You know anything definitive? Like do people go in the water?

It is cheap. The hotel prices on the web are higher than getting down there and asking around. There seems to be only one clothing optional hotel, which cost a bit more. Like $10 to $30 a night. Mexico beach places are often very well decorated and styled.

One friend lived a couple of months comfortably there on his minimal social security check. Including BEER and his penchant for mind altering substances. Don't know what he ate...he did eat something....

Flights are much cheaper from Northern Mexico, rather than flying from USA.

The Mexican Naturist Federation had a big gathering there last year. It is becoming an annual event.

The food is good and relatively inexpensive...tacos on the street, or cuisine.

Boat rentals are not a huge expense in a small fishing village in Mexico, depending what you want. A charter out of the city is geared to rich gringo tourist, but local guy with an open fishing boat for the day is something else to cruise up the coast in.

Yea, I'd gear it to being nude all day and getting lightly dressed to sample the restaurants and some entertainment, then another nude walk on the beach under moon and stars..."Hmm, I think that I'll get  on the internet, before we sit naked on that hill watching the sunset and surf...again..." "Which as been your favorite sunset?" "Oh, I like them All."

"I can't decide, shall I get off of this towel and get into the surf to refresh, or shall I walk over there for some fruit...or...ho, well...."
Jbee

What are you finding?
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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Crabbing Trip
« Last post by Safebare on October 16, 2018, 02:27:21 PM »
The slight was unitended. No matter how I spelled it, autocorrect turned it on it's ear. Many apologies John P.
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