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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« Last post by dbwvogel on Today at 05:00:26 AM »
The Canadian ban on nudity in pool locker rooms appears to be driven by deviants wanting to pretend to be whatever sex they choose while not having to expose their biological sex

Enabling sexual dysfunction is not helping.  It leads to failure and suicide.
I must disagree. I feel the news story suggests an entirely different cause of the policy; although driven in part by the understanding that there may be transgender people using the facilities, there is also the recognition that single-gender facilities don't serve people with special needs, such as parents of small children and older or disabled people. The policy is driven by textile-compulsives who assume that all users need to be protected from the sight of anyone else in a natural state, particularly (though not exclusively) someone of a different gender. In a way the policy is doing one good in opening the facilities for everyone (and the idea that they'll be ready to have a single facility for everyone in the future is not in and of itself bad); where we part company with them is in their thinking that the average user needs protection. However, given the current state of our culture (or Canada's, at any rate) we can hardly blame them for that - even if we vehemently disagree.

I will add that I find this blatant condemnation of transgendered people both distasteful and unhelpful to the conversation.
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Naturism & Art / Re: Naked Nudity
« Last post by Patrick1951 on November 19, 2017, 06:59:58 AM »
It would be a worthwhile exercise to offer some  of these to facebook! See what those dictatorial editors say?
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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« Last post by John P on November 18, 2017, 03:20:10 AM »
That is really sad. The matter of adopting a new gender has meant that she has adopted a different set of standards as she did when a man.  Do you think the sarong just her adopting what she thought were the norms for women so as to be more of a woman, John P, or was it less conscious adoption and more of a reflex reaction?  I wonder if her experience as a woman had changed her that much?
John

There are undoubtedly varied things going on there, and I don't know which item dominates. I'm sorry to see that so many women who at least do get as far as attending naturist events don't feel comfortable enough to be naked, but they're hugely outnumbered and likely to feel insecure. And in places I go, like the Eastern Naturist Gathering, it's become so much of a custom for the women to wear sarongs now, that I think a woman who actually did want to be naked would feel additional pressure not to, because that would isolate her not just as a woman in mostly male company, but set her apart from most of the other women. I certainly wouldn't want to say anything about it, knowing that it would come out sounding like "I'm a man and I want to see naked women"! I don't know the specific feelings that my transexual acquaintance has, but it might be that as someone who's establishing a female identity, she feels most comfortable doing what most of the other women do. You said "her experience as a woman" but I think there's also "her experience fitting into the way a woman is expected to behave". I mean, if she were nude when almost all the other women have clothes on, she might get the thought "Well then, am I a real woman?"
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Free Range Naturism / Re: A Kindred Spirit
« Last post by Patrick1951 on November 17, 2017, 07:39:34 AM »
Owners of places where nude is ok should make themselves known to naturist organizations. (here in UK & in all countries such as USA). Open hiking land, camping grounds or places of general public activity. Theatres & cinema's, bowling places, parkland or beach area's. It would be wise in most cases such as theatres and cinemas to have separate events, unless they advertise as "CLOTHES OPTIONAL".  If a major company such as these 'came on-board' and helped in someway to make social nudism ok, I reckon all society would gain, ultimately .
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Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Last post by Patrick1951 on November 17, 2017, 07:19:50 AM »
It's been a fairly average month, we don't get out too much so most things  happen at home or at places where we have appointments. We did go to a 'clothes optional' 50th birthday party, around 6 naked folk including me, maybe 5 fully clothed and 1 woman who just stripped her top half off. Excellent party with great food, good background music & booze for whoever wanted it. It was one of those rare times when naked & clothed people just mixed casually and calmly, no problem at all. I felt uncomfortable putting things on to go home, my niece remained 'topless' for the 20 mile drive home, just after midnight it was no big deal at all, even dropping us two back home.
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Trip reports / Relative Luxury in the Ironwood Forest
« Last post by jbeegoode on November 16, 2017, 07:51:56 PM »
We join a couple of friends, with dog (He kept his collar on) in their caravan out in the Ironwood National Monument for a couple of days. This is a celebration of the monument and its nature. Its in two parts, all of the pics made it lengthy. We take a walkabout and record the naturism with its naturalist details.

In a few days I'll add part two, A 4x4 trip to an incredible sunset and some exploration. The next day, we are off in the desert again.
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2017/11/16/relative-luxury-in-the-ironwood-forest/
Jbee
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Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Last post by jbeegoode on November 16, 2017, 07:36:01 PM »

Yoga first:


I do hatha (mainly) yoga in a weekly class and some of it is very cardiovascular - do a few 'salute to the sun' asanas together and you've had a workout.  When it's damp I do standing asanas and vinyasas (flows) such as 'salute to the moon'.  When it's dry (almost never this time of year) I put a yoga mat down on the grass or the patio flagstones.  In the summer I just do it on the grass.  The cold weather means the muscles don't get so warmed up and you have to be a bit careful of cramps and strains and take it steady.
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It is!


New New  year post:  I remember asking you about how long the snow lasted and how often you got it at the time but I don't remember the blog or pictures on the forum (this may just be my memory).  The post however is wonderfully different with the magical snowscape over the flora and terrain that your reports have made us associate with desert.  A particularly good one!  In the UK when it snows it is almost never associated with sunshine afterwards and the temperature stays around a few degrees C.  My guess is that it was quite warm whilst you were gamboling around in the lovely soft flakes.


John
It was freezing and below. Then 30F's as it warmed up with the sun. The time before sunrise is the chilliest. That's when we were out in it before and after sunrise. It became warmer after that. Probably 40F's by noon. We kept movin" and the air was still.
Jbee
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General Naturism Discussion / Re: Nudes in the news
« Last post by Bob Knows on November 16, 2017, 03:54:55 PM »
I have a couple of these "psychotic deviants" as friends, Bob. One is boy to girl and one is girl to boy. They are as they are, coping, experimenting and doing their best with what they are, what they feel and it ain't easy for them.
Jbee


I have known psychotic people for many decades now.  Most eventually come to realize that the years of struggle did not solve their psychological problems, it only made a worse mess of their lives.  The depression and suicide rates are horrific.  Facilitating someone's mental problems as an enabler does not really help them.

The Canadian ban on nudity in pool locker rooms appears to be driven by deviants wanting to pretend to be whatever sex they choose while not having to expose their biological sex. 

Enabling sexual dysfunction is not helping.  It leads to failure and suicide. 

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Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Last post by nuduke on November 16, 2017, 03:32:39 PM »

Having read the current crop of posts, and following on my answer to Jbee on yoga, it put me in mind that I hadn't yoged since Monday so I went out naked for a bit of yoga to test my resilience on a day that was broadly uninviting for outdoor nudity.
Cloudy, 70% RH, 6mph wind and 51F, so a bit damp and dreary. 
I didn't feel particularly chilled, my feet were 'positively' cold on the flagstones i.e. fully functional, no pain from the cold.  However, I only did a few minutes slow, standing asanas before my upper body was suggesting I go back inside.  It wasn't majorly uncomfortable, just less than comfortable.  Didn't get much of a workout!
John
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