Know your body (TED talk)

[Peter S]

https://youtu.be/0WsV5utzvSA

Get rid of body shame, humorous but quite inspirational (preaching to the converted for anyone here, but thought you might find it interesting)

[DaronRos]

Love when TED talks cover a subject like this. That's a great way to bring more attention to it. Awesome video.

[John P]

Hello Daron, welcome to Freerangenaturism. You might care to post a message in the Introductions section. And please join in more conversations!

Pjcomp, I'm not sure that you're being honest about that particular talk. The title is actually "Shed Sexual Shame (and Your Clothes Along the Way)" which makes it seem as if whenever nudity gets mentioned, it'll be all about sex. And we naturists might be hesitant to point it out. Because we're a little embarrassed by it, or because we like it that way?

[jbeegoode]

Yup. I didn't notice the title, but caught that the content seemed kinda sex with something about nudity, not nudity with some sex.

The two topics at some point become inseparable, so to me this is okay. I can be nude and sexy. It is however, important to separate the two topics as often as possible, so they are not joined at the hip in people's minds.

It's merely nudity, set me free, lay the sex trips elsewhere world....
Jbee

[Peter S]

At what point am I being dishonest, John P (an unpleasan5 accusation to make to someone you don’t know)? Did you listen to the talk or just go on the title? The speaker describes herself as a sex therapist, but any mention of sex comes right at the end of the talk - the vast majority of it is about discovering, understanding and respecting your own body, not giving in to the Photoshopped unreality used to sell us things.

[BlueTrain]

What exactly do you mean by photoshopped unreality? I see many of healthy, young and beautiful people in my life, none photoshopped. There are such people. They won't stay that way, of course, no matter what. Youth is the ultimate fantasy, I suppose. It is for that reason, age, that I am no longer sexy, if I ever was (doubts have been raised). Oh, to be 70 again.

[jbeegoode]

Bluetrain wrote: "I see many of healthy, young and beautiful people in my life, none photoshopped."

I get that sense when I go out to L.A. but, these are still a minority. These are very often covered and when  they talk, they are concerned with their flaws, of anysort, makeup, hair, thighs, short legs, long legs, blemishes under the clothing, the competition sitting next to them, etc. Insecurity, not in security.

It isn't enough to be simply healthy to be physically beautiful, and our unique selves. Our culture has high standards.

When the gorgeous are nude they have imperfections showing.

More often, goal is "When someone looks and gives me attention, I'm good enough." That is an improvement, but still peppered in cultural standard preferences.

Many are rebelling and going for an image of a subculture, destroying the Barbie model, thing.

I get what pjcomp is saying.
Jbee

[jbeegoode]

I’m finding this interesting and complex.

She says that, “Sex is about intimacy and sensuality.”

Clothing makes the body a more intimate thing. Clothing is a cloak covering secrets. It makes secrets. Just taking clothing off around others creates a liberating intimacy, and shedding of the hidden and the secrets. Thus a more comfortable atmosphere after the fears get wiped away.

Sensuality is a nude thing, just feel the breeze all over, or any sensation that has been insulated by clothing. Sex is sensual and actually shares many aspects of this with mere nudity.
 
So, sex and mere nudity are both about intimacy and sensuality. Sometimes they share common experiences.

Where is the line drawn if there is a difference between the two? Sexual gratification and touch with intent? When does simply enjoying sensuality become sex? Perhaps we all need a better sense of personal awareness to define this boundary, and a shedding of all or part of the social/cultural guidelines, mores and confusion?

I see this Tedtalk as doing a pretty good job of defining shame as it relates to sex, parts, and body image. It is a confusing relationship.

 John P., I’m confused by your comment above. Could you please, clarify, or expand on what you are saying. I’m confused by the way that you put it.
Jbee

[BlueTrain]

Well, I'd have to say that for some people, sex and nudity can be separated, though I don't know where the line might be drawn. For others, though, perhaps even the majority, there is no line. Of course, you can have sex with your clothes on and be nude without having sex but for most men, nudity and sex go together like a horse and carriage.