Naturist Society Western Regional event June 2023

[nuduke]

Discovering that there were other "secret naturists" out there besides me was very encouraging!

That was my major take out from TSNS and my major step forward into being comfortable with my naturism.  I have a lot to thank the TSNS crowd for, sadly most of them long lapsed into the cloud

PS Lookee is still around, I chat with him from time to time.

That's really interesting!  I never had any interaction with Lookee and he was very rarely on the forum and just with admin matters, maybe a handful of times in the years I was active there.  He seemed a shadowy figure, whom most of us assumed was rather detached from the forum.  Any idea why he closed it down?  Someone (I think it might have been the Dutch guy ....Midnightrider?) thought Lookee might have been very ill.  Tell us a little about him, psbare1.  What sort of a guy is he?  Where does he live (UK or US or somewhere else?)?
John

[jbeegoode]

The schedule for the Naturist Gathering/festival is about done and to be printed. It looks fun and interesting, even useful.
I intend to speak up at any that promotes the thinking of being penned up in cages as a way to live. 
This is subject to change. Notice that Jbee and DF will be doing three workshops and Ken Sunwalker, too, who used to spend time here at FRN. There will also be a free range group hike off of the property organized by Ken. Here's a list of workshops:

CAn't get the %^&*() thing to print!!!!!!
Jbee

[jbeegoode]

Just got back from the gathering, or as it is called,

[jbeegoode]

Just got back from the gathering, or as it is called, Just tried t paste onto this three times and it isn't printing but half of the first line.

I also had trouble posting from a word c document a couple of posts back, the schedule.
Jbee

[jbeegoode]

Back from the mountains, I figured that I'd start from the beginning at the Festival on my website. He's the lowdown on a wonderful fun time.

https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2023/07/22/western-tnsf-festival-2023/

Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

Back from the mountains, I figured that I'd start from the beginning at the Festival on my website. He's the lowdown on a wonderful fun time.

https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2023/07/22/western-tnsf-festival-2023/

Jbee

Interesting festival.  I wanted to attend but the effort to travel gets harder every year.  Glad you could go and have provided us with your experience. 

Just a thought:  Instead of simply opposing legislation aimed at preventing deliberate sexual activity aimed at children, perhaps nudist organizations ought to be working with the Legislatures to draft legislation that would accomplish their goals without also prohibiting non-sexual nude freedom. Most conservative politicians want more freedom, not more government.   Perhaps getting on their side would result in legislation authorizing non-sexual public nudity. Seems like Nudist organizations ought to be trying to get involved in a proactive manner.   

[Greenbare Woods]

Back from the mountains, I figured that I'd start from the beginning at the Festival on my website. He's the lowdown on a wonderful fun time.
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2023/07/22/western-tnsf-festival-2023/  Jbee

So they had 2 conferences on "Women in Naturism" but none on Men in Naturism.   Hmmmm? 

[jbeegoode]

Back from the mountains, I figured that I'd start from the beginning at the Festival on my website. He's the lowdown on a wonderful fun time.

https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2023/07/22/western-tnsf-festival-2023/

Jbee

Interesting festival.  I wanted to attend but the effort to travel gets harder every year.  Glad you could go and have provided us with your experience. 

Just a thought:  Instead of simply opposing legislation aimed at preventing deliberate sexual activity aimed at children, perhaps nudist organizations ought to be working with the Legislatures to draft legislation that would accomplish their goals without also prohibiting non-sexual nude freedom. Most conservative politicians want more freedom, not more government.   Perhaps getting on their side would result in legislation authorizing non-sexual public nudity. Seems like Nudist organizations ought to be trying to get involved in a proactive manner.   

All politicians are concerned with making waves, campaign funds and resulting votes. A majority to come forward and do the right thing would seem counter intuitive.  It could risk, backlash waves, funding and then the votes.

Conservative climate has gotten more goofy. Moral thinking gets votes for anti-abortion rhetoric. Those same people may not respond in favor of body freedom, something that they perceive as sexy. Even though the polls tell us that most Americans are okay with many of our goals, that conservative base is holding onto backward views.

Also, "what about the kids" is still out there and there is a frequent knee jerk reaction from that.

It is difficult and very expensive to solicit, or lobby the government. Very time consuming, lots of effort. Although many conservative states have no anti-nudity laws because of that reason you give, they they can "not do anything" and then not rock the boat.
I was told that to take action proactively and "risk the voters kids" would be perceived as a big problem for them, right or left ends of the spectrum.

 I'm thinking that politicians are more interested in advantage during their next election, not doing the right thing. They are dependent on making money for big money and the conservative election machines that get out the vote during primaries.

I think that informing the people's opinions is the winnable battle right now. The politicians would follow suit to get re-elected.
Jbee

[jbeegoode]

Back from the mountains, I figured that I'd start from the beginning at the Festival on my website. He's the lowdown on a wonderful fun time.
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2023/07/22/western-tnsf-festival-2023/  Jbee

So they had 2 conferences on "Women in Naturism" but none on Men in Naturism.   Hmmmm?

[jbeegoode]

Back from the mountains, I figured that I'd start from the beginning at the Festival on my website. He's the lowdown on a wonderful fun time.
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2023/07/22/western-tnsf-festival-2023/  Jbee

So they had 2 conferences on "Women in Naturism" but none on Men in Naturism.   Hmmmm?

The women's discussion at these events started several years ago. It was to gather experienced naturist women and help mentor the newbies. It has worked well. DF was a newbie at one point. Now in the fold, she is a know activist sister with wisdom and experience.

I think that you are implying something about fairness. No men have stepped up. There is no shortage of men in naturism, nor voice.

It is an idea. What would you imaging that looking like, if say, you were hosting such an event? What topics? What outcome? Maybe next time.
Jbee

The second was really about men AND women in naturism, a dialog. 

[Greenbare Woods]

I'm thinking that politicians are more interested in advantage during their next election, not doing the right thing. They are dependent on making money for big money and the conservative election machines that get out the vote during primaries.
Jbee

That's where a Naturist convention in their district passing a resolution advocating for legislation that supports their goal while including the Naturist goal would be well received.  A convention is a bunch of votes. Naturists need to be active rather than reactive.
 

[Greenbare Woods]

The women's discussion at these events started several years ago. It was to gather experienced naturist women and help mentor the newbies. It has worked well. DF was a newbie at one point. Now in the fold, she is a know activist sister with wisdom and experience.

I think that you are implying something about fairness. No men have stepped up. There is no shortage of men in naturism, nor voice.

It is an idea. What would you imaging that looking like, if say, you were hosting such an event? What topics? What outcome? Maybe next time.
Jbee
The second was really about men AND women in naturism, a dialog. 

Yes, the idea that men have issues we need to discuss is unthinkable in many Naturist groups.   These days the issues of men has become quite popular on You-Tube channels.