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Old Pine Creek
« on: September 16, 2015, 12:42:26 AM »
I really like this canyon because after you walk in far enough the hike becomes scrambling then bouldering which is more enjoyable nude as your clothes do not restrict your movements. It gets increasingly difficult. The trail dips down into the canyon from the rim and the stream is there for you to walk in if you choose. Although at some point you have no choice but to walk in the water. Once you walk between the canyon walls the temperature starts to drop and when you have to start the scrambling it helps to keep you cool.

The boulders are huge and sometimes you have to go around. The ferns on the wall in the mid-canyon are completely unexpected in a desert environment. It's cool, shaded and there is plenty of water to support the wildfife in there. The wall of ferns is growing because the seep, where the spring comes out along the wall, keeps the air temps down, like a swamp cooler. There is moss and other trees you just don't see out in the wash. The hike from the parking area to the ferns is about 2.7 miles.

There is a foundation of an old homestead on the way in. A family lived out here years ago, although not so long that concrete was unheard of. I think it is from the 40's & 50's.


#1 - Standing at the foundation of the homestead. I seem to remember the family name was Wilson. A peak in the nearby mountains is named for them.


#2 - This green meadow is between the foundation and the stream. I have seen these spring areas in the desert at other places throughout the state. They are always startling, even when you know they are more common than people believe.


#3 - Boulders in the stream bed have been worn smooth. Even with rubber soles there is not a lot of traction.


#4 - Some of the larger boulders make it more difficult to go upstream. The canyon runs east/west and is cool even in the summer but is wide enough that it gets enough sun. There is another canyon here called "Icebox" because of the remperature there. It is very narrow and doesn't get as much direct sun.


#5 - Rocks and pools just below the springs in pictures #7 & #8.


#6 - The water is only a couple feet deep but it's nice and cold for hot feet.


#7 - The shadows and spring fed stream keep this place very cool and pleasant. It's a workout to get here so it is usually deserted, even if I go on the weekend there is no guarantee that you will be alone.


#8 - This is the wall of ferns that people come to see. I've seen larger ones but this one is so unexpected out here in the desert, it's one reason why hikers come here.


#9 - Boulders make good resting spots. Especially for cooling off.


#10 - These two pictures show the view out of the canyon back out toward the park.


#11 - You walk through a desert from the parking lot and then shortly after passing the home foundation you begin to transition into this green and leafy environment.


#12 - More bouldering. You can see water marks on the rocks from flash floods and temporary dams that hold long enough to stain the rocks.


#13 - I could spend a whole day here if it weren't for the hikers that do come and make it necessary to get dressed.


#14 - This shows the three different trails I've been on out here. These are generally more strenuous the farther you get in and you are less likely to bump into anyone.


#15 - This is the canyon view.

This canyon and a couple of others adjacent to it offer some of the more challenging walls for rock climbers. Consequently past a certain point about the only people you will see this far in is climbers and the more adventurous hikers.

The average day hiker doesn't make it much past the foundation and green meadow shown in photos #1 and #2. If you go on farther in the bouldering seems to be an impediment to the casual hiker. As with any park that lobbies for more funding they seem to be motivated to make more of the park accessible to more people. This can eventually change the flavor of the experience. It is happening at another local site that has a huge number of petroglyphs. I sometimes worry about that one.

Some places should preserve the nature of the essence of a site as well as the effort required to experience it as an essential aspect of what it has to offer. Some may see that as an elitist view which will exclude some people, but the effort to see something should be a part of the experience also.

This is a special place for me because of what is there and what I have seen and experienced there.

I hope it stays that way.

Duane

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Re: Old Pine Creek
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 02:41:56 AM »
Yum!

Is that perennial water? It looks crystal clear. Does all of it source from those springs in the canyon? No cattle destruction, or contamination upstream? Flash foods?

I like the various pastel colors in the rocks.

A great post.
Jbee
« Last Edit: September 17, 2015, 07:40:23 AM by jbeegoode »
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Re: Old Pine Creek
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2015, 01:34:18 AM »
Lovely location.  Thanks for posting, Duane.
Was this a recent trip?

John

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Re: Old Pine Creek
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2015, 09:31:47 AM »
It looks facinating and reminds me of some trips around the (tourist) canyons of the SW US. As a matter of interest whereabouts is Old Pine Creek?

Davie  8)

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Re: Old Pine Creek
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2015, 06:09:57 PM »
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Lovely location.  Thanks for posting, Duane.
Was this a recent trip?

John


As a matter of interest whereabouts is Old Pine Creek?

Davie

A point of clarification. “Old” is my addition. The site is simply Pine Creek.

The park called Red Rock is west of town about 20 miles. It is a very popular spot and has been a favorite for locals for years. When I 1st moved here it was little known outside of this area except within the rock climbing community. In recent years it has been designated a National Recreation Area. As a result it has had many dollars spent on improvements and additions. Groups that hold it as a special place have done a good job of raising awareness of what historic and archaeological sites are there for the public to visit. There are quite a few to see.

This has made it so popular that I stopped going for my SN hikes. It’s simply too busy and crowded for my comfort. If it were a matter of bumping into others that love the outdoors and remote sites for the quiet and solitude available, I might still be going there. Unfortunately there are far too many families and groups using it simply as a quick getaway from the city. There are tour buses, travel groups and excursion companies bringing many tourists for the sights in the park. This is in addition to the locals that visit. It is a great place for that sort of business.

The 3 posts I placed here from those hikes are assembled from pictures I took awhile ago. The last time I was there on a SN outing was about 4 yrs. ago. I was spotted on that hike and the reaction wasn’t positive. I haven’t been back. I have posted them as a record of hikes I did. Hence the “Old” designation on the three. The posts I made on the occasion of the original hikes disappeared last June. These are put together from the many times I was there, not from a single hike.

I may add more photos as I go through my files. I don’t intend to go back there on any naked hikes. The city is encroaching on the place and putting environmental and developmental pressure on it. From noise, light and emission pollution it’s no longer the place it was for me to go there and try to enjoy nature as God in tended. I realize that’s a bit egocentric, but the whole reason I started going there were those aspects that are now so hard to find. Change is inevitable, but not always pleasant.

We occasionally go for a quick trip, like all the others, but I can no longer take advantage of its quiet and remote aspects, as they no longer exist as they were. It just is too much effort to try and get out there when it is not over run. I hope and think the pictures I have posted capture the sense of what I once could experience on any given visit. It’s still a great place to visit, just not for naked hiking.

Sorry for the confusion.

Duane