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tanman

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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2015, 10:39:50 PM »
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It IS me Larry, I'm just moving with the times.

I knew it was you, Dave, I was just kidding.  You've always been a stickler about the definitions, and suddenly it seems of less concern, or worse, wanting to quickly terminate the use of the 'secret naturist' expression.  Unless and until I get MUCH bolder, I will ALWAYS be a Secret Naturist, even while I'm Free Ranging.  Open free range naturism is more an objective than a beginning.  Who would immediately be a free range naturist from being a textile?  FIRST, we're going to be secret and we're going to develop some craft as we experiment with our new-found NEED to be naked outdoors, where ever we are and whenever we begin.  We have to grow through that beginning before we ever can feel comfortable trudging across the moors boldly and conspicuously NAKED in plain daylight as a free range naturist.  For some of us, that's quite a long path of development over quite a long period of time.  I think secret naturism is necessary, especially if we're going to be of any help for a newbie 'naturist' who is struggling with responding to their new found NEED.  We are older, and now more experienced in the CRAFT to the degree it's almost second nature.  But, we're still explaining it to our spouses as we rationalize our actions ... "It's OK, they can't see anything because of" thus and so ... the CRAFT.  For the benefit of potential newbies, we should discuss the craft more frequently, and/or identify a CRAFT section for reference.  Anyway, I'm good with Free Range, and I'm good with Secret, both, but, Secret Naturism will NEVER be dead to me.

Have fun, naked!
Larry (tanman in Texas)


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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2015, 12:23:04 AM »
A well put, practical reasoning and seconded.
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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2015, 11:27:44 AM »
I knew you knew it was me Larry  :)

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A well put, practical reasoning and seconded.

Of course - it's Larry. Not sure I completely second it though.

I think the reason I prefer free range naturism as a term, especially being here, is that it is less ambiguous than "secret naturism". Apart from being outside of designated areas there are no limits. This doesn't mean that everybody should aspire to walking about openly naked without worrying about being seen, it's up to them - and of course everybody has to start somewhere, but I don't see the need any more to call it Secret Naturism with capital letters. I think something like "secret free range naturism" is more appropriate here and of course the CRAFT is no different because it has a different name.

Perhaps I'm being picky, but that's how I feel. As I said before, it could be confusing to existing and new members if there is a seperate category referred to as "Secret Naturism".
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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2015, 03:28:59 PM »
Dave ... you are FUN!

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... a seperate category referred to as "Secret Naturism".

... wouldn't create a separate category, just wouldn't kill the expression, it's use, or it's definition ... that's all I have to say on this ...

Have fun, naked!
Larry (tanman in Texas)

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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2015, 03:50:12 PM »
Fair enough Larry, I accept that, but I won't be using the term any more.
Dave

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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2015, 11:34:37 PM »
Too much hair splitting and navel gazing!  :o  :P
Free can be secret, secrecy can be freedom, naturism out of sight and no boundaries is what we seek!  ;D

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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2015, 03:17:42 PM »
As I've grown longer hair (two-fisted tail), I agree that split hairs are a problem, but what's so wrong with quality time gazing at my navel? :)

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Larry (tanman in Texas)

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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2015, 10:54:54 PM »
Having just figured out how to get back in for a chat check and view posts since last visit, (yegads, was it really July?.. My my how summer goes so fast!)...
I am smiling at the wiki discussion of secret vs. free range naturism.

I have never been able to fit into any of the descriptors, biputbut there was one that somebody put up that does seem right.

I think I might be a secret-solitary-soul- naturtrekkist.

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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2015, 02:08:03 AM »
Hi Lisa!
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Re: Greetings from Kayaker
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2015, 09:59:44 AM »
Having just figured out how to get back in
Hi Lisa,

Good to hear from you again.

Of course, you know the secret to not forgetting how to log in? Do it more often :D. Your friends here will always be pleased to hear from you and that chap you married. Say "Hi" to Larry for us.

Have fun,


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