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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2023, 10:24:37 AM »
I couldn't help getting introduced to Edward Abbey, as he was a local celebrity, attending lots of Tucson functions. I'd see him around, not knowing who he was. Then Desert Solitaire" got read. I just kinda had to, and it spoke to me. I remember thinking,"Wow, THAT'S the guy that wrote THIS?"
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« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2023, 08:31:59 AM »
That would've been cool, to meet him!

Not sure he would have counted himself as a naturist, but several times in Desert Solitaire, he mentioned being exploring canyons and relaxing along the river naked.

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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2023, 01:30:56 AM »
There's a solo hike up a mountain. Near the top, he gets naked and just lays down to enjoy the spot. I have some notes for an Edward Abbey post on my site. I think it is on page 256.

Yea, not a naturist per se, but definitely okay with a connection of a body and a natural, in nature experience. He'd have no problem with one of us.
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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2023, 06:49:57 AM »
Yep, I remember that story. He hiked up Mount Tukuhnikivatz (had to Google that spelling!) and sunbathed on the snow.

He also mentioned being naked several times during the float down the Colorado just before Glen Canyon Dam was completed. And also during his weeks-long stay near the Havasupai reservation.
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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2023, 09:37:17 AM »
Spell Mount Tukuhnikivatz!! I wonder how I could even pronounce it the same way twice! ;D
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« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2023, 07:04:13 AM »
I listen to a lot of audiobooks while driving. I've listened to Desert Solitaire quite a few times. Abbey said he liked the mountain, if for no other reason, because he liked saying the name. I can only hope the narrator got it right, but I didn't catch any mispronunciations of anything else that I knew how to pronounce.

Audiobook narrators that don't take the time to learn how to pronounce place names properly can spoil a good book in a hurry. I once listened to a historical, documentary-type book about weapon development by the Confederate states. Mobile, Alabama played a significant role in the book, being a major Confederate city, along with Mobile Bay, and the Mobile River, so the word "Mobile" was mentioned in the book at least a hundred times. I'm sorry...but anyone who has lived in the U.S. much beyond third grade should know well that it's Mo-BEEL, and not MO-bull. At least the guy was consistent...he NEVER failed to fail! 
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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2023, 10:46:43 PM »
I remember feeling confused when I found out that Mo-BEEL was spelled MO-bull. Maybe it's a French influenced pronunciation going way back ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCfm8-HSoSs ).

On the other hand, few think to pronounce Mobile Oil, which I think (??) originated there, Mo-beel oil.

I don't think that Mitch McConnell would have the capability to pronounce it correctly, with the thickness of the accent wherever he originated from and that closed lip social personality.

Then, there are those Texans that must pronounce every single vowel to their own taste and even add some, moo-buy-ill.

My town, Tucson (Tooce-s-on) gets a lot of variation. Tuuk-sone' in Latin Americanese. Tuk-san, Tuc-sewn, Tuck'-soon, Tuk-son. It is commonly Anglicized from the original Native American name roughly Tooc-shawn or Tooc-shown.

I can imagine what translated audiobooks do to biographies, and famous people rolling in their graves.

So glad that we can write out our expressions in pretty plain English here, instead of listening to the common language that separates us on each side of the big ponds.
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« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2023, 10:59:18 PM »
There's another local author, Jim Corbett, that wrote "Goat Walking."

He theorized that early man was able to travel because of goats. He thought it apparent that the nourishment from goat's milk on the trail was enough to sustain a man. He traveled all over Arizona and the border with a batch of goats. I suppose that counts as alone. :D

Sort of a lama packing thing.

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Re: On Walking Alone
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2023, 09:53:31 PM »
We pronounce it "toosun" or "toosonn" in the UK.  Is that not how Tucson is pronounced in the USA?
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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2023, 06:03:52 AM »
That's how I'd say it. "I been from "Tucson to Tucomcari, Tahachapi to Tonopah...."

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« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2023, 06:32:54 PM »
Everyone lives where they have their own pronounciations. And they are all correct, for that area. Where I grew up, the city is pronounced "Mo-beel" and the company is pronounced "Moh-bull".

Out here we can spot someone from out of town. They pronounce Nevada - Nuh-vah-duh. We pronounce it Ne-vaa-duh. Like the word "at". Unless your heritage is Spanish then Nuh-vah-duh would be how you pronounce it.

My parents were born and raised in Louisiana. There is a town there called, "Thibodaux", they pronounced it "Tee-buh-doh". English is a great language with words from all over the world. Makes for a lot of fun.

Good link, Jbee. Has Ms. Ronstadt ever recorded a song that wasn't a pleasure to listen to? Beautiful voice. I've heard she is a Tucson native.

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« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2023, 07:00:56 PM »
So much to reply to and comment on.

This discussion reminded me of the never settled debate on TSNS site of whether we should call our activity ‘secret’ naturism. Some didn’t like that word because secret sounded sneaky, guilty or fearful. I remember finally choosing ‘Solitary’ instead of ‘Secret’ Naturism. An adjective I felt more comfortable with.

My naked hiking may have begun in secret because of the initial novelty. But over time I became more of a solitary traveler. Training myself to be silent and aware. Absorbing what I encountered along with the thoughts and impressions those encounters generated.

Years ago there was a man in here who had a weekly radio spot about the Mojave Desert. He said he often would hear comments from visitors such as, ‘I don’t like it here. There just aren’t any seasons’. He usually would get irritated. But his usual patient reply was, ‘Actually, we do have seasons, you just have to pay attention to see them’.

He contrasted seasonal changes here with the traditional changes elsewhere by describing those as ‘big splashy over the top events that assault you with sensory overload’. He found delight in the minute changes in plants and animal behavior that describe the seasons here. You have to focus and in doing so you not only see the changes but notice things you hadn’t seen before. As you observe, you DO see how the landscape changes. It comes slowly. You will not see it over a weekend or a few days.

I am in a region that has had an active and varied natural history. All you need do is look. You see different types of rock and deposits in alternating layers. You don’t even have to dig down to see them. They are on display on the mountain slopes. They tell you how it was made. You see the evidence of violent natural forces and events. You also see the gradual changes.

Water, wind, volcanoes, tectonics, it’s all right in front of you if you just look and take it all in. It is an amazing vista. In places layer thicknesses are measured in hundreds of feet, in others in inches. Layers of different colors and textures. Sometimes the layers are at different angles or even perpendicular to the other. How does that happen? Everything you see tells you something about how it was formed.

Lookup the ‘Frenchman Mountain Unconformity’ where large gaps occur in the geologic record and/or the ‘Keystone Thrust’ where you can see layers 350 million years old over the top of layers only 180 million years old. You can just walk right up to them and see it.

The variety of treasures nature provides in green environments has been pared down to just the geology and the tough desert life that clings to it. Here you can see what lies beneath all that surface life in other locales.

Walking in the desert is a treat no matter your clothing choices. For me, without clothes creates a heightened and varied experience. With no barriers to interrupt the sensory input. You are using more than the skin of your hands as you move. Anything you come in contact with, is noticed. Sometimes, even if I am somewhere I’ve been before I discover something I have missed. It’s always been there, waiting.

When I am alone I see the wonder of the variety. When I start my walk, I begin with a quick walk and get my metabolism elevated. Once I am breathing deeply and aware, I then calm myself and I see God in the landscape. I am thankful to be able to see His handiwork. It is creation made magnificent through the endless, smallest details.

I don’t attempt to describe what I am seeing. I know just enough about what I am looking at to appreciate what it is. For a short time, I am a part of that landscape. I am walking where other travelers before me have contemplated the same features. I am sure with only minor changes over time.

On a calm day when you are out in the middle of nowhere away from the modern noises, just stop. You can hear the sounds of the desert. Look around you to see. How better could it be than to be in the desert than with your thoughts as your only companion. I have learned to appreciate what I see.

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« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2023, 11:52:01 PM »
Oh, I relate! Standing in the silent desert hearing anything that moves. A different lizard, a snake, the swish of a blade of grass.

Or, standing in the desert, next to the saguaro, a being whose presence you can't ignore and the breeze flows through the needles and it speaks "saguaro talk" to you. It feels like a comrade, a fellow traveler in life, which it is.

Each day, DF and I would walk in those mountains. Just to hike or ride through, they appear redundant. But walking, nude, quietly, each time, even the same places, we would find something completely new, or something else to compare two things on two walks, but always something. Something seen, something felt, something smelled and we even tried tasting the trees.

Then, there are all of those sensations to be felt inside, when "the moment" "here, now" makes breath an infinite series of possibilities, and to be in touch without distraction of the modern life!

I learned these things living naked in the desert. I think that I understand the naked desert monks of old and Bible times.
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« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2024, 03:30:23 AM »
Thoughts and an another Edward Abbey quote. It's about that sense of the desert. Can't put a finger on it, but ya know it when ya got it. The mysterious lure.

https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2024/06/19/as-it-is/

Abbey wrote that he just happened to be one of the desert lovers, Some go up in the mountains, some the sea and lamented that few have ever written of the desert...We spent nearly every night reading excerpts of "Desert Solitaire" before sleep during our trip to Bear's Ears, Utah.

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