Author Topic: Natural bodies and health. Don't be washing too often. Cutting edge research.  (Read 310 times)

Bob Knows

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I'm sharing this video with you nudists because this YouTube speech just may be about the most important medical research in the past century.  He and his colleagues are getting some amazing findings about living with thousands of symbiotic bacteria, and about increasing harm done in western "civilized" countries by being over clean.  How clean should a nudist be? 

I'm just starting to learn about this.  I want to learn more about the beer he mentioned.  I want to learn more about making fat mice thin.  I want to learn how to avoid Alzheimer disease.  I want results in my lifetime.

Check it out.

https://youtu.be/xlEFI5A3QFM
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How clean should a nudist be? Depends on how close you get to 'em.

I can get on a rap about sweats/saunas. On how it gets you clean and you don't smell so much, because stuff detoxes out. How you can smell the difference as stuff comes out. How it gives a natural clean to scrape. How heat effects microbes,bacteria...but....

I scrape most of my body and rinse it with water. I wash the armpits and crotch with soap and water as I scrape. Doctor whats his names natural biodegradable stuff is good, but I'm just now getting off of good 'ol Dial antibacterial soaps.

I eat fermented foods often, a variety of it. I make fermented food, which is even better variety, balanced and natural. 17,000 different biological probiotic whatnots and most of the commercial stuff has three to five important ones. I put organic, fresh foods into me, and try to know what richness their soil is made up of. The organisms, in soil, to the plants to the body go up my food chain. I don't know how good a job it does, but I feel and look better. My hypoglycemia goes away. Cooking food, and over cooking kills nutrients, but also microbial stuff. I stay away from antibiotics and sick people as best that I can. Clean comes from the inside out. Microbes are everywhere, so not so much clean as healthy is key.

Think of all of the dust in the environment absorbed into the body, the lungs, interacting with it, biological build up in clothed pants, etc. Bare feet, absorb and interact, too. A naked body breathes better, interacts better, I would figure.

I don't know, but sticking to millennia old natural environmental ways of relating to the world seems a good policy. Sweating cooped up in polyester doesn't adhere to that message. GMO, antibacterial meats and treatments to cattle, processing, over processing, less fresh foods, PPK soils...its all new and I can taste the difference in most of it. So, I'll stay naked and natural.

Exercise makes a body breathe and systems move. How clean has lots to do with how much movement is in a lifestyle.
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I once went to a dermatologist for a minor complaint and read about him. He was also of the opinion that less washing could be beneficial or more to the point that over cleanliness is detrimental.
I like my daily shower!
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Isn't there at saying about a peck of dirt harming no-one. We need good bugs to bolster our immune system. It might be too much information but whenever I've been on antibiotics I've noticed a change in my bowel movement. Antibiotics kill the good as well as the bad. I believe we need them but we shouldn't over use them. There's too many  adverts which seem to suggest all bugs are bad, they ain't.

Being without clothes must be good as clothes will trap the bad bugs and stops the skin breathing normally.

Davie  8)

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....I like my daily shower!
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I don't know there's anything wrong with showering. Over the past five months I have been eliminating soaps from my shower - first hair (no shampoo since May), then arms & legs (no underarm soap since July). So far, no adverse reaction, no odors. But I still shower just as often, only without the soaps. Still using soap in my groin (for the sake of my wife) and my hands (for interacting with the public). Let the microbes live!
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20 odd years ago when our kids were crawling we started thinking about food and chemicals.... upshot was we use water and vinegar as our standard household cleaner , i havnt used shampoo for 20 years, use an unscented soap for hand washing and to make a lather for face shaving and shower in plain water as and when, maybe several times a day in hot sweaty weather, considerably less often in cool weather when a daily wipe of crotch and armpits with a wet clothe can suffice for a few days
our experience has been that eating fresh prepared home grown food has a significant effect on body odours, the odours appear to be caused by the skin excreting unwanted chemicals.

when i was a kid sat night was bath night , in a tin tub on the kitchen floor, as youngest i started with clean water , everyone else just got a bit of hot added .   otherwise it was wash hands before meals.
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I've been eating a lot of sprouted cinnamon raisin bread and almond butter for convenience lately. I can smell the difference. Very different from the 80% raw foods diet.
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we use water and vinegar as our standard household cleaner
Doesn't it make your house smell like a chip shop, ricc?  ;D
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Interesting! I’ve been aware for years of the effects of over using anti-bacterial meds, sanitizers and soaps. At some point all you are left with are the resistant strains of bacteria. Doctors are becoming more aware of this.

I read a speculative novel, “Darwin’s Radio” a few years ago about the role virus’ play in genetic development. It was a fiction based on research and experiments being done at that time (1999). Virus’ replicate through genetic manipulation and the premise was that some traits of humans are the result of that.

At the back of the book was a reference section of the source material he used to get the science in the story correct. He wrote a sequel a couple years later, Darwin’s Children.

Also interesting reading.
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When I was a kid we would visit my grandparent’s farm in Louisiana. They didn’t have a bathroom or a water heater. An outhouse out in the field and bathing was in the kitchen in a washtub. Water boiled on the stove and everyone that wanted to bathe went in the kitchen on their turn.

No big deal.
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Alcoholics reek of their addiction. I worked with a man years ago that always emanated the scent of garlic. Apparently he loved it in his diet.

At least we didn’t have to worry about vampires at work.  ;)

Duane

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Unusual for you to make an apostrophic error, Duane! :D
It's Viruses not virus'.

Virus is a Latin word that has no attested plural in Latin. The reason we don't use a Latin plural is that there is none. Hence the anglicisation of the plural with -es on the end.
The possessive (that belonging to the virus e.g shape) is virus's (as in: the virus's shape is round).  However I would consider this a little ugly and pronunciation could be considered awkward so my recommendation next time you need it (if ever! :D) is to avoid the possessive case of the word and create a possessive phrase or clause (as in: the shape of the virus is round).  I'm sure you feel much better now.

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Thank you very much! I feel so much better with that load off!
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Unusual for you to make an apostrophic error, Duane! :D
It's Viruses not virus'.
. . and not a single comment about the fascinating concept that our DNA doesn’t necessarily always rely on the random zippering of two sets of DNA, but that there is a possibility, however minor, that virusES hack the coded pairs, and plant either time bombs or platforms from which we occasionally genetically leap to new heights.

Hmmmm!

Meanwhile, I must have been in a haze, confused about the plurals of nouns ending in “s”.
I can only plead that lately I have been nodding off at times while NIFOC.
errmmm!  What a strange . . . strange line.

Oh well, thanks for the history and editorial suggestions.

Duane