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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2017, 07:38:52 PM »
Check it out in the comments section. It was repinged, to another blog, already. Also, PM.
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2017, 09:48:20 AM »
https://www.naturist-corner.net/community/index.php?topic=24095.0;topicseen

JBee, someone else who has taken encounter strategy to a new level, thought you might find his experience interesting.
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2017, 04:47:49 PM »
https://www.naturist-corner.net/community/index.php?topic=24095.0;topicseen

JBee, someone else who has taken encounter strategy to a new level, thought you might find his experience interesting.
The "Naturist Corner" site requires login, and I feel like I have more than enough identities out there on the interwebs. Any chance you could copy the salient parts of the story into a post here?
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2017, 04:53:48 PM »
"Naturist Corner" may be more of a porn site than a naturist site. 
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2017, 05:18:46 PM »
"Naturist Corner" may be more of a porn site than a naturist site.

Could well be, yes. I went and looked, and started the application process, but then they offered "I agree with the conditions and I am over 18" and another box which said the same, except "I am under 18". I said I was under 18, and the response was "We won't accept your application". Well, if they need to keep the kids out, they must have some good reason.

Edited to make it clear that I didn't really intend to register falsely as a juvenile. What I wanted to see was the level of restrictions they'd put on me if I were a young person. As it turned out, it was a speedy process!
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2017, 07:09:24 AM »
It is definitely not a porn site, and probably has fewer naturist pictures than this site does. A curious rush to judgement from a group usually so demanding of tolerance...
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2017, 09:37:52 AM »
It was decided no under 18s for various reasons. One was to protect members from possible allegations of grooming bearing in mind that once a person has made a number of posts its possible to PM other members. Whilst a declaration of being over 18 is no guarantee its there as some protection. Additionally whilst NC is certainly not a porn site sometimes issues of a more adult nature does get discussed. At one time there was a photo gallery specifically aimed at adults. It was supposed to be there for erotic pictures but it soon denigrated to something else. I was one who campaigned against it. Some said the site would lose members if it was taken down. The site did, but then gained a lot more, in other words the site removed those who were there for the wrong reason. I suspect the under 18 rule came about then. I also think there had been an issue with a clearly under 18 trying it on. Its going back quite a few years now but I was part of the discussion about under 18s and its a decision I still support.

Worst case scenario is parent finding an under 18 on the site and getting upset after this kid has been exchanging PMs with an adult. NC is a free site with quite a large number of members but registration requires more information than many sites and believe me many potential members who are clearly trying it on are rejected. A number have been banned after posting inappropriate content which. The site doesn't mind debate but personal attacks on other members will not be accepted. (A gentle warning often has the desired effect.)

The reason NC has kept going and is considered a genuine naturist site, rather than a site hiding behind the term "naturist" is because its fought to retain its integrity as a naturist site. It may not be perfect but its one of the better genuine naturist sites.

I'll declare my interest - I am a moderator on the site. I resisted for a long time but Tony who created the site finally persuaded me after someone had posted what can only be described as a pornographic picture and I objected. The site started as a genuine naturist site, went a little, but only a little, off the rails I think through being a little naive and is now a mainstream naturist site.

Once a site rows you have a choice, let it become a free for all or moderate. If it becomes a free for all it will cease being a naturist site. If you moderate it will stay on the rails, but runs the risk of being accused of censorship

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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2017, 03:19:55 PM »
Thank you for clearing that up, Davie.  I'll have to give them another look.
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2017, 05:46:58 PM »
ill just add ive been a member(as have other members on here)  on nc for years, its the only other naturist site/forum that i bother with.

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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2017, 08:12:02 PM »
OK, I'll admit that I knew Naturist Corner isn't a porn site. It's mentioned occasionally by British nudists and that's clear enough. But after Bob's remarks, I went along with the fiction that it's pornographic, because it's a long-time bugaboo of mine that we harm our cause when we accept "naturist" sites that exclude young people. I think this is very wrong, and I won't participate in any group that does it. A lot of people here were on the Secret Naturist Society or Hikingnaked, both now gone, and I never joined because they both had that misguided rule. Freerangenaturism doesn't, and congratulations to Stuart and Karla for being confident in non-sexual naturism, and naturists! I'm on Netnude and used to be on Cat's Chat (but I left that one because of heavy-handed management) and they both accept everyone: in fact they both have special sections for teenagers and I've never heard of trouble there. Maybe it's because NC used to have an erotica section (I can't imagine that working while claiming to have limits on what can be shown, let alone its effect on what viewers would think) that the owners think they're attracting people interested in sex. Other naturist boards don't seem to worry about it.

I think that I looked at NC a while ago, and I tried to send a message to the operators about my reaction to their policy. I don't clearly remember what happened, but maybe the "Contact us" feature only worked for members. Or perhaps my message did go through, but there was no response. Davie, if you can show the bosses this thread, maybe they'd rethink things. Tell them it's possible to claim that they're running a porn site, and nothing visible from the outside suggests that it's not!

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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2017, 09:11:46 PM »
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

The chances of change are virtually nil and I have to say I support that decision. Indeed I contributed to it. I've explained some of the reasons in a previous post

The site is open about its aims:
When we set up Naturist Corner we wanted a friendly online community with the same naturist values that you'd expect to find on a naturist beach, swim, event or in a club.
We wanted a discussion forum that was busy and lively but, unlike some other sites, was refreshingly non-confrontational, respectful, non-aggressive and well and fairly moderated. Something you'd really want to be part of.
We believe that the vast majority of our members are genuine naturists and we make no apologies for our strict registration requirements and rules because they are what helps make Naturist Corner a little different from other naturist websites.
So here you won’t find Friend-Requests coming from people that you’ve never heard of, you won't get deluged with unwanted personal messages right from the off and you won't find 'private' profiles.
What you will find is over 80,000 posts in over 10,000 topics together with articles of naturist interest and information. And a great community feel.


In the UK a person becomes an adult at 18. To have minors on the site although from your own admission its not a porn site can become a legal minefield. I know we can't stop minors registering but the site is taking best efforts to protect itself from legal challenges and complications. Many members who thought they might inadvertently be communicating with minors would leave. I seem to recall the rule was actually put in after a concern, the details of which I've long since forgotten. Sorry but that's the way it is and will remain

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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2017, 07:20:56 AM »
https://www.naturist-corner.net/community/index.php?topic=24095.0;topicseen

JBee, someone else who has taken encounter strategy to a new level, thought you might find his experience interesting.
I've applied. I may be asking which article that you are referring to, once I'm accepted.
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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2017, 11:06:39 AM »
https://www.naturist-corner.net/community/index.php?topic=24095.0;topicseen

JBee, someone else who has taken encounter strategy to a new level, thought you might find his experience interesting.
I've applied. I may be asking which article that you are referring to, once I'm accepted.
Jbee

Jbee,

As soon as you are accepted and signed in, the link will take you straight to David Gilderdale’s post.

I’ve walked with David twice, including this one
https://www.naturist-corner.net/community/index.php?topic=23845.msg178287#msg178287

I was sitting chatting with him at the weekend in the sauna at the Sleaford Naturist Swim.

Norman.

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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2017, 05:24:54 AM »

Hi Norman, long time no hear from! If you see David again, you might call his attention to the Naked European Walking Tour report in Trip Reports here. He and I met on NEWT2014.

Davie, I don't see any likely event that would lead Naturist Corner into the "legal minefield" you mention, or cause "legal challenges and complications". Other website operators don't have these concerns--would you call Stuart and Karla insanely reckless for not doing the same? As for "Many members who thought they might inadvertently be communicating with minors would leave", I think that's just plain bizarre. Maybe they're people who shouldn't have been there in the first place. (Find the ones who left, and kick 'em out immediately, eh.)

Well, I'm not going to launch a crusade against Naturist Corner! Run it the way you think is right.

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Re: A more naked and bold strategy:What do you think?
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2017, 12:34:00 PM »
Being a mere  member of both NC and FRN, I think that FRN is safer from the sort of problems that NC may have had simply because of the different emphasis of the two sites, FRN being specialised while NC is much more of a general naturist forum.
As an example a search for the word "shaving" got 8 hits here and 77 on NC while "child" got 30 here and 401 on NC.
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