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jbeegoode

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A time and place for a resort
« on: September 06, 2013, 08:38:29 AM »
Okay, here’s something to move traffic. We like to visit De Anza Resort in California. It is in the desert with miles and miles of hiking and trails in a unique rocky environment. We hike and when it is time or too hot, we come back and jump into the swimming pool and Jacuzzi with a cold drink. We then dance all night. Being off property is the best thing about the resort, but coming back to a clean friendly totally nude social environment certainly has great merit.

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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 10:48:02 PM »
For us that's one of the biggest differences about the highlands of Scotland the European Alps. After spending a whole day climbing and descending mountains, trudging through bog land, swatting midges and then enduring a death march back to the car, you then generally have to spend a a few hours driving back home. There are of course bed & breakfasts and hotels, but they're generally more clustered around towns and you need to be off the mountain early in order to be back before they stop serving dinner. Going back to a tent in a camp site can be far more grim though. The hotels can be expensive and the bed & breakfasts can all be booked out early in the towns if the day is rained off.

In the Alps it's lot easier to drive to a restaurant or hotel and to relax. That's if you haven't already done so on top of the mountain already. What I'd really like to do one day is to stay a week in a hut or hotel at altitude and explore the local area. The downside being though that you can be limited in your options about where to go.

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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 12:49:09 AM »
We have a place that we can go on Sundays, and Friday evenings. It is maintained in a backyard with a fence. There is community there, with several friends there most of the time. We sweat/sauna and pray, chant, etc. inside. There is a pool. We take turns hosting, taking care of the fires, donate wood and donate a few bucks to maintain it. It serves as a place to gather central news and events amongst the community of many common activities including making music. It is often referred to as a kind of church on Sundays. From this place other activities, some free-range naturism, unfold in other locations. The nudity is almost an after thought, but then who sweats in their clothing? Clothing is left behind in rustic cubby boxes.

This is much different than a resort of profit, factory farmed, where disparate others gather primarily as the wish to be nude and participate in activities there, often without any other interest outside.

This, I suppose, would be a reservation or safe haven, opposed to a factory farmed commodity. Besides, we sometimes arrive in just towels or a quick sundress, having spent the drive carnuding from a free-range place or a home. Clothing is often to get across the street and not upset the neighbors. So, likewise, it might be said that a factory farm has its place amongst a world in free-range.
I'm okay with that.
 
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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2015, 10:40:05 PM »
As I get older and more inclined to appreciate my creature comforts, I find places like Euronat more to my liking for a pleasant naked holiday.
A rented apartment with all mod cons, a choice of about 8 cafés and restaurants, various entertainments laid on, all the shopping you need at a very reasonable premium and no need for clothing at any time.
On every occasion that I have visited the only times I have dressed were to venture off-site (and not always then).
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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 05:40:42 AM »
Factory Farms and Reservations have their place, too.

The factory farmed term, the concept of being put on reservations carries with it resentment, sometimes a powerful resentment. Unmistakably, what is happening today in concern with repression of body freedom is terribly wrong.

There are the perceptions of the reality of our situation to be dealt with. I thought I’d take a stab. We have here in Arizona, the place of Cochise’ Stronghold. It is in the mountains east of here, where Cochise and his band held out, lived, hid and found sanctuary. If the native lifestyle were naturism, it would be a refuge of free range. It is like castles of old, defending themselves from intolerant cultures and greed. It occurred to me that these places were also, places of community, sharing, and freedom. Like Cochise Stronghold, the freedom to roam diminished, but there were places out there of stronghold. There are many places for this as nudists. These may be a living room, a backyard, an enclosed vehicle, a group of friends, swimming, sweating, a pay for resort. Are these ports in a storm, a hole for a rat, or bastions of freedom and truth to protect us, places to live freely with each other, learn and expand from?  We know what happened to Cochise and his band, but they did hold off the inevitable as their world shrunk; they did stay as free as they found possible. In other places, castles provided a long lived cultural, but organized situation, yet influence of the various cultures bled out, fertilizing others, while remaining intact. All of these have aspects of attitude and perception.

Free range, stealth naturism in actual nature and other environs, atavism, are in need of understanding and practice, exploration. Since it is a less social endeavor, and splintered, it needs this cyber support group to flourish. Nobody stays in the castle isolated. We are in a better position to promote and gain acceptance of our lifestyle and teach the values it gives us. We are not so locked up in a “them and us”,     here online. We are under siege, with every diverse opinion that comes through, but that is discourse and the nature intellectual learning. We also give example, and have new concepts to actively tryout. We share.
How else could this happen?

The factory farms and the reservations have their place. They are schools of social experimentation and practice, they are pretty safe, but just a step along the way. They can be thought of as bastions, or prisons. They can also be similar to the secret spot in the woods, a favorite free hiking trail, or perhaps actually hanging out in Cochise’ actual stronghold, only as a place of safe naturism, this time. It would seem that in any place that we find opportunity for body freedom, it would be this in common, even on the res.
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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 08:59:01 AM »
A deep and reasoned approach to the contrast between free and enclosed naturism to which I can only add these previously published pictorial examples of my enjoyment of both.



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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 10:50:53 PM »
Well done, jbee
Slipped in an 'atavism' there. Keep it up! :D
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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2017, 05:12:50 AM »
I have been a paying member of De Anza. I also have been a long time visitor. It is one of the few nudist resorts that offer nearly unlimited free range hiking. Many times I paid my five dollar parking fee, left my clothes in the car and walk off the resort into the desert. It is where I learned to hike without a net. I carried food, water and camera sometimes art supplies. Many times my dog Lucy came with me. The area has issues with border crossers. Many times I passed the border patrol. Sometimes they would ask if I saw anything unusual. Never, did they make an issue about nudity.

De Anza is one of the few nudist resorts that did not care that I was a single male, had tats and rings. As long as I showed respect for the rules and others I was A Okay. I played volley Ball in the pool and card with the long timers. The hot tub was the place to meet others.
In Montana I have no such place to go. It is up to me to find places to free range hike. To be honest I have little respect for most of the clubs. I was turned away by many. I understand many club got burned because of sexual freedoms explored in the late sixties and seventies.
The internet does not help. It has added to the confusion about sex and nudism. For every true nudist and naturist site there are 20 fakes pushing soft and hard porn and hookups.

The best I have are a few sites that are home to some likeminded thinkers. Free ranging naturists are like artists, both need support groups. The general population doesn’t understand either group. The best to be done is educate.

Image is of me climbing rock somewhere near De Anza.

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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2017, 07:01:17 AM »
I'm used to seeing smooth, sandy, rounded surfaces at De Anza! There is obviously more needing to be explored.
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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2017, 03:22:23 PM »
I have enjoyed the Orient Land Trust (a.k.a. Valley View Hot Springs) in Colorado.  olt.org Its a rustic resort with natural hot (warm) springs and developed saunas, etc.  It too has virtually unlimited clothing optional hiking.  From the campground its about 10 miles and 6,000 feet up to Cottonwood Peak. I've hiked it naked a couple of time.  It cost about as much as any other resort with discounts for Naturist Assn members.   JBee and I caught up with each other there a couple years ago. Mosquitoes were unusually bad that week. 

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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2017, 07:23:28 PM »
Jbee has written about De Anza a few times. From what he has reported if I ever make it to a CO facility, it is probably the one I would choose.

I remember a few great reports and pictorials from De Anza on the TSNS site by Jbee. It’s where I first heard of the place.

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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2017, 07:41:23 PM »
Jbee has written about De Anza a few times. From what he has reported if I ever make it to a CO facility, it is probably the one I would choose.

I remember a few great reports and pictorials from De Anza on the TSNS site by Jbee. It’s where I first heard of the place.

Duane
They will be back, on the new site, eventually.
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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2017, 04:19:43 PM »
Here another photo out side De Anza.  Area of picture is north and east.

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Re: A time and place for a resort
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2017, 04:24:46 PM »
Another picture near De Anza. Year round stream north of De Anza.