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John P

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Now it's bikes in Philadelphia!
« on: September 13, 2018, 06:09:15 AM »
World Naked Bike Ride was there on Sept 8. Maybe it didn't totally change the world, but people seem to have enjoyed it:
https://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/09/philly_naked_bike_ride_photos_1.html

I think I know the red-haired guy.


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Re: Now it's bikes in Philadelphia!
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2018, 07:48:27 PM »
I suspect that if that were attempted in some cities, the police would be out there in riot gear.

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 01:31:11 AM »
Red hair...BlueTrain...that you? ???
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Re: Now it's bikes in Philadelphia!
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 04:25:31 AM »
It's been confirmed that the redhead is Richard, who was on the Solstice hike back in June, and whom I saw again at the Eastern Naturist Gathering. There is a train connection, but not what you'd guess--he's an operator on the New York subway. "I'm on the F train most of the time" I recall him saying.

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 11:22:10 AM »
My hair hasn't been that red since before I started school. And I'm not that heavy, either. But thanks for asking.

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 02:57:22 PM »
Blue Train, that's a common response to the WNBR, but it is held in various cities around the world. Many that you would not think tolerant enough to allow such behavior. But, in reality, it is usually quite legal and tolerated by law enforcement.

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 08:39:49 PM »
I saw that in the news the other day, John and it sounded like it was a non-event, as far as the nudity was concerned. They do the ride here now but always add the caveat that you ride naked at your own risk as itís aginí the law to be naked in public here.

The old ordinances stated that mere nudity was a misdemeanor. Now you run the risk of getting on a sexual offenders list. Once it becomes old news maybe the regulators will relax.

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2018, 12:41:50 PM »
It seems to me that the trend has been to consider all offences more serious than ever and to make more and more things illegal with more severe punishments and that's not a good thing.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2018, 02:29:40 PM by BlueTrain »

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2018, 05:15:24 PM »
"Tough on crime" or "zero tolerance." "war" on this or that. Blustering ignorance manipulating foolish fears. Padding egos by acting out self-righteous higher ground. Insecure little people making themselves feel bigger and more powerful, posing as the great protectors of the people, they set others out to do the work of repression and feel powerful...oops, Bluetrain, I think that you may have triggered a resentment lurking in me. ::)...but then again, ain't it so?

But it is supposed to be a tool to protest and get attention. When it becomes normal, it doesn't work as protest. It is illegal to protest for nudity, or anti-nude law nude here, but it isn't illegal to protest anything else a while nude.

G-strings, c-strings, or pasties might be used, until people see enough of it as it is, harmless, or normal. There are now flesh-color stick-on pads to cover genitals of women AND men. Would the stick-on conform to the ordinance?

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2018, 05:31:07 PM »
It is a mistake to think that anyone or everyone can get used to seeing something. In the late 1960s and 1970s, there were many new things that were tolerated but clearly not accepted by everyone. And I'm referring to something so harmless as long hair for men. Don't you remember the expression "Beautify America, get a haircut?"

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2018, 06:12:13 PM »
That was a very polarized time, too.

Accepted by individuals in the public is one thing. I was thinking more about the law being more lax. These WNBR things are a parade, and publicized and the vast majority of viewers are not offended, but enjoy the procession. It is harmless.

As for the hair, yup I remember, but I also remember Willy Nelson and country singers growing it out eventually. Hippie culture created a trend and then a fashion, sideburns and longer hair, from crewcuts. In early 2000's I grew mine out again. Walking around in denim western clothing and ponytail length hair, they figured that I was conservative, not homeless, and accepted it. It generally doesn't matter anymore. Back in the day, it was culture in the rural areas to have backward fashion concepts and resist change.

It depends on where you are, too. I get the same concerns wearing a kilt, as I did being a long-haired man back then. We stop in for a taco in a small town and I need to get covered and use the camo kilt and there are snickers, but I'm probably too old to get cracks from people. If it symbolized anti-war, or something like the hair once did, then it would get a tough time. If I wore my camo kilt back then, hair or not, I'd probably get messed with, particularly being a youth.

Same old ignorant intolerant narrow personalities exist today. When there are more of them in an area, the culture gets more intolerant, ignorant, and narrow. But times have changed, most people are more tolerant now. Taking those political/cultural, societal connotations of those long gone days and applying them to nudity now, is comparing apples to oranges. They are only both fruit, only, but very different.

One of the reasons that these protests take on a more carnival atmosphere is that they are less confrontational, dower, serious, scary. There will be a minority that doesn't like it, but most are okay with it. It is free expression/speech.
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2018, 08:16:45 PM »
Generally I agree with what you said but the minority can be very vocal at times. In the case of a naked bike ride or those parades out in Oregon, it isn't like everybody in town turns out to see it. Half the people have no idea of what is going on in town anyway. Overall, though, I think the way things change, it is half surprises and half disappointments. But there has always been changes and always will be. There is no Brigadoon.

I was married wearing a kilt, as were some of the other members of the wedding party. I was usually in the company of other men wearing kilts anyway. But what with the popularity of pipe bands, not all of which wear kilts, a kilt isn't all that unusual. The French navy even has a pipe band but they play French music and it sounds a little weird. I think it's from Brittany.

Also, don't think that everyone who calls themselves conservative really are. Some are radical. No one owns the label.

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2018, 08:26:08 PM »
Also, don't think that everyone who calls themselves conservative really are. Some are radical. No one owns the label.

It is sometimes said that liberals want government to control your money, job, and services.  Conservatives want the government to control your religion, morals, and lives.  Most politicians want to control it all. 

A lot of libertarians side with conservatives on issues were conservative means less government and lower taxes.  They tend to side with liberals on issues where liberal means freedom from government. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2018, 11:17:40 AM »
That's a pretty good way to put it. But be aware when someone says 'self-regulating.'

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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2018, 09:10:08 PM »
Actually, some people do get accustomed to seeing things. Over time the things that are harmless become just white noise. In the background.

When all the dire predictions fail to appear, those things become everyday occurrences.
Happens all the time.

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