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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2018, 06:44:54 AM »
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Yes there is swimming and time to relax and it's not that I haven't enjoyed that, so that's good, but apart from the fact that to do these things are possible naked, I wouldn't visit or join such an establishment for what it offers if it were a clothed, textile club.

So CO clubs have a limited appeal for me compared with enjoying the countryside or a cool woodland naked.
I agree, which is what I liked about OLT. There was the freedom to walk about naked, or not. There was a pool, and also several hot springs. There was hiking, a large (2,200 acres) property you can do that. An old mining town, a bat cave . . . etc. I didnít see a tennis court, basketball court or any other sport venue and no golf.

About 30 miles south, as the raven flies, is Great Sand Dunes NP with camping and hiking there also. There are dunes there over 700 ft. high.

These are the same reasons I intend to eventually visit De Anza Springs. OLT is a 12 or 13 hr trip. De Anza about 6 hrs. Iím willing to do that because I know OLT wonít be boring and suspect De Anza to be the same.

Iíve been to walled in resorts. They are tedious, boring and unimaginative. I have to be able to get up and go and do. Being able to do that while naked is all the more a benefit for me.

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2018, 04:53:10 PM »

Yes, Duane,
We have nothing that big in the UK.  Hiking would be a reason to visit an area.  In our crowded little land the best you can home for is a few acres/hectares with a patch of woodland if you're lucky.  Naturism is perforce a social event here because the naturists are effectively corralled together in a relatively small space so sociability naturally breaks out! :)
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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2018, 03:25:13 AM »
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Naturism is perforce a social event here because the naturists are effectively corralled together in a relatively small space so sociability naturally breaks out!
Hmmm! So, in the UK, naked people get together, and all of a sudden, they start behaving in a civilized manner.

What a concept! Maybe this practice of meeting others while naked could be taken and implemented worldwide to further world peace and cooperation.

Duane

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2018, 05:00:36 AM »
Nobody in Britain has the space for a big place like Orient Land Trust, except maybe some Scottish aristocrat who uses his moorland for grouse shooting (and there wouldn't be hot springs). But on the the other hand, there's the vast network of public footpaths, rights of way over private land, which are very carefully supervised to prevent closure. And the current legal situation is that there's basically no law against nudity any more. So there are opportunities in the UK that we don't have in America, except in benign states like Vermont and even then, not with nearly so many paths to walk on. If Yeldew sees this, he can tell us about walking with the Naturist Ramblers.

As for the grouse, Ewan MacColl wrote a song (various versions available on Youtube):
https://genius.com/Ewan-maccoll-manchester-rambler-lyrics

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2018, 09:11:14 AM »
If Yeldew sees this, he can tell us about walking with the Naturist Ramblers.

Oh dear John! Are you trying to shame me into posting instead of just lurking?  :-[
I really find it difficult to find the time to read the posts, let alone try to answer.

But yes, you are right that rambling (rather than hiking) is easy in England with an Ordnance Survey map in your hand.  There are lots of dotted green lines (or dotted red depending on which scale map you prefer) which allow you to make up your own walk on official rights of way for walking.  Anything from one mile to 20 miles or more.

So although our island is small and crowded, rambling is easy to arrange.
However working out a route for rambling nude takes more effort, trying to find quiet parts - as in the old SN days, when not wishing to be seen.

The new police guidelines are definitely giving many naturists more confidence in walking nude along some of these footpaths, as can be seen in posts on the British Naturism website forum.

The Naturist Ramblers club (Nat Ram) have amended their rules this year to take advantage of the new police attitude.  If non-naturists were seen approaching, the leaders would previously hold up their hands to make a 'T' sign to signify the order to cover up for textiles.  Now this is not done, and members can make their own mind up on whether to cover up depending on their own comfort level.

This has added greatly to the enjoyment of walking in our own skin without worrying about annoying or embarrassing other people.  Being annoyed or offended is their right.  Just as it is my right to be annoyed or offended if somebody spits on the pavement in front of me.  It does not make the action illegal.

I will be walking with the Nat Rams (and maybe the odd ewe) next Tuesday, being their last walk of the summer season.  I will have walked with them 14 times this year, missing 3 walks whilst I was naturist camping in France, and one when having a heart pacemaker fitted (very inconvenient).  >:( 

Norman.

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2018, 07:03:47 PM »
No place to camp along these walkways? Is wandering with a backpack an option?

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2018, 07:10:04 AM »
While our footpaths are open to all, pitching a tent just anywhere is rather frowned upon. Apart from the impracticalities (absence of water and sanitation) we have a history of opposition to travellers setting up when and where they want. All the land is owned, and no one, whether private or state landowner, wants someone putting down stakes uninvited and in violation of planning regulations. Thatís not to say it doesnít happen, and we have always had our share of hoboes and hippies finding their own woodland refuge, but these are a different breed from the footpath hiker, who tends to be rather more middle class and respectful of the rules. Speaking for myself, I also prefer the idea of a decent shower.
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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2018, 11:18:16 AM »
The Gypsies ruined it for us all.

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2018, 09:39:06 PM »

I looked at the Natrams website, Norman, and indeed they are a large and active group and appear to have lots of fun naked in nature.
Good luck to you all.
Was this the Singles Outdoor Club at one time?
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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2018, 11:35:52 PM »
Was this the Singles Outdoor Club at one time?

Oh dear!  Another direct question!  And Iím out for most of the next couple of days, so wonít be near a computer.

Yes, the Singles Outdoor Club was mainly for single males who were unable to gain easy access to naturist clubs alone, but were (and still are) able to visit as an official club group.  I have never got round to joining them on a club visit, though I may still do so at some time.

The walking group within SOC was always the most successful part of the club, and broke away to do their own thing, feeling that the main club was imposing too many irrelevant rules on them.

The Nat Rams are a great crowd and turnout this year has been high with the best summer weather for quite some time.  They are also getting a fair number of overseas visitors joining us for the occasional walk.  This year we have had Canadian and Chinese visitors.  And of course John P from Massachusetts joined us last year for several walks whilst in London for a few months.

We usually start and end the walks from a pub, and mostly find a good half of the walkers stay on for a pub meal after building up an appetite on a 12-mile ramble.

Norman.

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2018, 02:48:34 AM »
And of course John P from Massachusetts joined us last year for several walks whilst in London for a few months.

Sorry Norman, it's already the year before last. Yes, we really are getting old(er) that quickly.

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2018, 09:19:27 AM »
Ooops !!
Yes we will soon be approaching middle age!

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2018, 07:35:34 PM »
Eeek! Not the the Middle Ages!
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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2018, 05:27:11 AM »
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. . . the current legal situation is that there's basically no law against nudity any more. So there are opportunities in the UK that we don't have in America. . .
Having the laws changed so that you can walk naked on public lands in Britain just as if your were clothed sounds unreal. But amazing! I would think that that there are probably regions where this change will be easily adopted and others where it wonít. Hopefully, over time it will become accepted.

JohnP, apparently and unfortunately, youtube is owned by Google and you must genuflect and join the group mind before they will allow you access to listen to the song. So I guess I wonít be hearing it today.

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Re: Non-landed Club
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2018, 05:28:06 AM »
Not wishing to shame anyone here, please explain to a non-Brit, what is the difference between a hike and a ramble. For me a hike is a walk out away from civilization, with the sole purpose of enjoying the landscape or the personal achievement of completing the hike. I guess a ramble would be in a town? Thatís the difference I see, but Iím a distant cousin unfamiliar with local customs.

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