Author Topic: The Environmental and Human damage caused by clothing is huge and unnecissary.  (Read 10900 times)

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I found this YouTube video about investigating and documenting the huge global cost of fashions that people pretend to need.

https://youtu.be/-S6CPu8yYrg
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What can one do but agree and hope to do one's bit to help by buying and wearing out less clothes.
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The fashion industry would collapse if it relied on people like me. I still have to work on reducing the ‘technical’ (ie plastic) clothing I buy mostly for winter outings, ski-ing etc.
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The thing I resent is being told that we are responsible for all the plastic pollution, when all we did was buy the things that are made of plastic or wrapped in it - no one told us it was goin to kill the planet, in fact we were told how wonderful it was to buy this stuff. Now we’re given no choice by manufacturers and sellers, but it’s still ‘our’ fault, supposedly because we ‘asked’ for all these things. I can give up clothes (tick - done that 😀) but going back without food is problematical...
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The fashion industry would collapse if it relied on people like me. I still have to work on reducing the ‘technical’ (ie plastic) clothing I buy mostly for winter outings, ski-ing etc.


I have no problems if the fashion industry collapses.   The big fashion money is all hype and cowshit anyway.   Cotton is a huge environmental problem, and now polyester microfibers have polluted the oceans. 
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DF and I just found the time to watch the video.

Its just another big greedy conglomerate f... up the world & don't give a darn about the impact on the world. I don't know where they think they can go when everything is beyond....
DF

I just looked in my closet. Everything in there is over ten years old, except two pairs of dress slacks. DF gave me a new t-shirt in May as a Birthday. I need a couple of T shirts, some underwear, and some casual pants. I'll get by for now.
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DF gets most of her clothes in trade, or second hand. I just buy built to last. She is well dressed if not elegant, when she wears clothing. I wore timeless western clothes for years. Now I'm more creative.

Thanks for the Vid Bob. I'll try to keep from going on a rampage breaking windows that next time that I end up in a mall. ;)

Have you all seen the cow fart videos and the resources that get used just for a burger? But that gets into the global warming thing...oh well.

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You'll have a greater impact if you quit driving. But you can't cheat and take public transportation, if available. You either have to walk or use a bicycle or not go anywhere. Since I've retired, my going places has been reduced, almost to the point of not going anywhere. That means no nude hiking in the national forest, unfortunately.

My next door neighbors when I was little, in the 1950s, would laugh at our petty attempts to save the world. They lived in a four-room house, never had a car and walked everywhere. They kept a big garden and even raised two children. Of course, "downtown" was only three or four blocks away and everything you might have wanted or needed was there, within easy walking distance. That was when a small town was much more city-like than anything is today. But that was then. It isn't like that now. There are no businesses on that four block stretch of street that were there then. Now, a car is virtually a necessity.

My folks also walked most places, too, as far as possible, although, ironically, my father was a truck driver. My grandfather walked to work (at the railroad shops). He walked home from work in the rain one day, caught pneumonia and died at the age of 67. He may have put off retiring because of the war.

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You'll have a greater impact if you quit driving. But you can't cheat and take public transportation, if available.

Lets all get a horse.   

Cars cause a different form of environmental damage.  Cotton farming is vast acreages.  Polyester microfibers polluting rivers and oceans are killing fish much more than cars.  Much of the clothes are not even useful in clement weather.  And, arguing that you shouldn't do one positive thing because you can't do something else is a false argument.   
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Never said you shouldn't do one positive thing. I was merely suggesting that you live more or less the way my relatives and neighbors did when I was little and trying to put things in perspective. And you don't think horses create pollution? One of the neighbors that I mentioned, who I don't think owned a car, was employed by the city as a street sweeper. His equipment consisted of a bin on wheels, a shovel and a broom. There were still a few horses to be seen in town, some stabled just a couple of blocks away. Their pollution was real. It smelled and it attracted flies, although it was biodegradable and good for a garden. The fuel was renewable, too, but it was required all the time.

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I've been there to see the changing of the guards. Didn't see the street sweeper. When I was there, there were volleyball courts (I think they were) set up on Horse Guards Parade, which is where that tunnel leads to.

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Before combustion engines replaced horses all city streets were covered with horse shit and other filth all the time.   We have forgotten how clean our cities have become because of cars. 
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The road outside my Gran's house never had horse shit for long.
She shovelled it into a bucket and spread it on the garden.
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There isn't much that doesn't leave some trace of its passing, whether that's horse shit or motoring's carbon monoxide - the difference lies in whether the planet and its inhabitants can cope with those traces. It may have taken a lot of effort to move the horse (and cow and sheep and pig) droppings out of the towns and cities, but at least it could be spread on the land to fertilise it. Of course the smell and the associated illnesses and diseases had to be taken into account as well. Basically, the human race is not really a force for good as far as the planet is concerned, and we have  to find ways to mitigate our effect on it.
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Well, humans are part of nature. This is where we belong, here on earth. Men are not from Mars and women are not from Venus. We shouldn't apply different standards for humans than we do for animals, although it is certainly true that people have affected the earth more and sometimes in a bad way. We may look at a photo of the plains covered with buffalo or some other hoofed animal and say that is good, then look at a place crowded with people and say that is bad. That makes no sense. Of course, not all animals run in herds.

It's also difficult to see that human time is different from geological time. Your own house, depending on where you live, could easily return to nature if you weren't constantly working to maintain it. Whole cities have disappeared beneath foliage and dust. We have had little ice ages a few hundred years ago that no one has ever claimed was caused by humans. The earth and the weather (Mother Nature, we might say) are neither for nor against us. It just is.

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