Clothing can be Unhealthy

[jbeegoode]

Clothing affect the entire body in many negative ways.

I just took off my robe. I noticed a change in poster. Yesterday, I was walking around the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show in my wrangler demin jeans. I had my hands in my pants pockets, which is a slouch.
 
Babies out here walk different than babies in colder country. Here they live in diapers and learn to walk more fluid, their arms move, not that diapers don’t make a more bull legged gait. Up north, they get bundled up and their arms are out like they are trying to balance themselves.

A tight outfit, makes a body move more stiff. It limits the range of motion. These become habits, when the muscles aren’t being used, being stretched, being exercised. Clothing can change attitude, and the way a person carries themselves. A waistband can tighten a belly, squeeze it over the top as a pot belly and constrict flow. It can affect a hernia, giving false support to muscles that need to carry their own duties.

Shoe, high heels, boots, platform, flip flops, all make a different walk and posture and over time, affect the body.
Posture has everything to do with health. The spine is linked to the whole system and every organ. The muscles in a sore neck can affect the muscles in the leg and visa versa. The shoulders not kept back will affect the entire system, how one walks, how one lifts, how one displays themselves to others. How one caries oneself influences how people affect each other and attitudes about themselves.

Bifocal glasses dramatically change the way that a person moves the head.

All of these accoutrements make a difference. I’m saying that exercise, including walking and running are better done nude and most clothing is hazardous, if not loose and comfortable. Do you sleep in your clothes?

I recently acquired a hernia, which I must now treat with stretches, yoga and walking among other regimens. I stretch more fully without the clothing. I walk much looser without the clothing and I use the full range of muscles that I need for health and to support my weak area.

The band that is the lower back that wraps around into the groin region has been getting a workout. My posture is getting better. After the training, I walk differently. I am more upright and move as I haven’t in years. I can feel the way that my body used to move, remembering when I was younger and I was cockier, with a tad of wiggle in certain areas. It is not a tight soldier’s stance. It feels good, right and whole, when I achieve a degree of this.

Then, I put on some clothing and old habits sneak back.

So, exercising muscles and stretching and muscle memory training are hindered by clothing and allowing habits, or not being mindful of what the body is doing. Habits have been around for a long time. They have snuck up on us when we weren’t looking.

Be nude as often as possible and keep moving. Enjoy the body as a temple a place to play, fascinating, loved and allow it to be natural, always. The best way to be aware of the body and be one with it, is to be nude.
Just sayin’.

[Greenbare Woods]

Thanks for sharing all that.  It does indeed make us crippled.

[MartinM]

I agree with everything you say. That is why I am barefoot all the time and when generally wear two  items of loose clothing in summer and three in winter. Apart from when I am out on the fells in winter, like today, when I will need skiboots, and probably a couple of extra layers. But I did manage an hour or so of naked ski-ing on Thursday - just socks and skiboots.... until the breeze picked up.

[jbeegoode]

I finished the article for the website and the other day, DF and I went over to a friend's place to shoot pics for it and another project. That was fun. We swam, ate a salmon and raw food dinner outside in the most exquisite air. We sat in the pool and watched the sunset, the bats coming in next to us to drink, and topped it off with a stinging jacuzzi.

Anyway, a bit redundant, but polished off:
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2019/07/12/clothing-affects-the-entire-body-in-many-negative-ways/

Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

Clothing restricts and cripples our minds as well as out bodies. 

[jbeegoode]

Yea, Bob, I just touched on that. Can you express any other examples of that happening? It effects consciousness, self concept, and social order by control. Anybody have more on this?
Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

(Caution: if you are offended by "Pagan" talk skip this article)

I'm not sure if this is about being unhealthy.  Its about how clothing restricts being wild.  I found it on Facebook today.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/agora/2014/09/the-zen-pagan-wild-naked-pagans/?fbclid=IwAR3HYdKhx9izTq-kwvOc5bVa4EFN0cwTU15MA1t1WLCWzOm_08wBV1crCT8

[BlueTrain]

I find most claims about clothing one way or another to be dubious. But I've touched on that before. However, it is a curious fact that in reality, few people in the word--other than those crazy nudists--actually go about naked. Here I must say I am referring to adults and by that I mean those past puberty. So called 'topless' is not nude. And you will all quickly agree that someone wearing the briefest of garments is also not nude, sometimes to your disappointment. All of this is true in the upper reaches of the Amazon (the river, that is), in deepest and formerly darkest Africa and the mysterious islands of the Orient. They may not wear much but the are rarely and completely naked. For some reason. Very likely for the social control you mention. Nobody worse than an out-of-control Amazonian.

For other people, though, especially Americans, clothing seems to have absolutely no effect on controlling anyone. As to the unhealthy nature of clothing, I have known individuals who never in their life were nude outside (inside doesn't count) and yet lived past 100. It is possible that clothing may sometimes be ruinous to good health. My mother-in-law only lived to be 97. My grandmother only made it to 93, her short life undoubtedly was caused by the corsets that she had. I don't know if they were steel or whale boned. That may have made a difference, although she was not wearing them by the time I was born. I think. Mind you, they were all women, the weaker sex. I have never understood why women should be the ones who live longer, although my mother did not make it to 50. Neither did Thoreau.

Nevertheless, I think there is a health benefit to exposure to air, any time of the year, too, and probably the benefit is of equal value to exposure to sunlight. I suppose that depends to a great extend on what your skin is like. Redheads take note. Also the air quality, which is probably better now (in most places) than it has been in generations.

There is also the question of how much health we need, to put it bluntly. Everything in the Boy Scout manual about health, fitness and vigor seems to suggest that you need to be in tip-top shape so you can go out and cut down trees, do great things and conquer the world. Indeed, some youth organizations were created for the stated purpose of improving the health of the youth so they can be better soldiers, not so that they can go on long hikes. Mostly, they had boys in mind but not always. Besides, the gunner's station in an M1 tank looks like a video game station. On the other hand, according to my son, who served as a tank crewman in Iraq, informed me that changing the air filter on said tanks requires a lot of heavy lifting and cursing.

[jbeegoode]

Some people just live longer. I was to visit a 94 year old friend today. He eats crap, sits around, is on pills, can barely walk. It is because he wouldn't exercise, mostly. But he's too stubborn to die. So, what I'm saying is quality of life is at issue when to comes t health and many of us will die of certain diseases early because of our lifestyles.
Jbee

[jbeegoode]

(Caution: if you are offended by "Pagan" talk skip this article)

I'm not sure if this is about being unhealthy.  Its about how clothing restricts being wild.  I found it on Facebook today.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/agora/2014/09/the-zen-pagan-wild-naked-pagans/?fbclid=IwAR3HYdKhx9izTq-kwvOc5bVa4EFN0cwTU15MA1t1WLCWzOm_08wBV1crCT8

I read the book that went with the article that John P. put out in "Skinny-dippin' with St Ethelflaeda!" thread, called "The Naked Hermit."

He is talking about the "liminal' spaces, too. New word for me. Hopefully, not upsetting the Pagans, these were early Celtic Christian naked monks, doing, getting in touch with, attempting essentially the same thing as your article is mentioning of Pagans!

They were naked at beaches, mountaintops, on the edge of the primal and spirit and leaving the civilized stuff behind by surrendering to the care of the wildness. Get wild, and find spirit, talk to angels. There is something very significant and real shared by all of these people and me, for that matter. They were also, competing with the Pagan religions and had to adapt and out nature them. I think wildness is something essential spiritual awarenesses.

I can personally attest that dancing naked next to a fire is superior to clothed. For the above and the reasons in the article. It is a time to cut loose and nudity gets people in the mood and free bodies move differently. It can be like a frenzied Christian revival or a wild Hindu Bakti. Also, clothing can catch on fire. Naked people in firelight look very cool, human, primitive, It helps everyone get into it, to see wildness. There is definitely more movement dancing naked and clothing gets in the way. DF and I will always choose naked dancing.
Jbee

 

[BlueTrain]

Frenzied Christians are among those I avoid, having attended many fire and brimstone sermons, sister-brothers! And dancing naked before a fire is something that had never occurred to me. And the time as passed. I met my wife dancing, though, and several others that did not get that far with me, shall we say. Some of the dancing was in a church, too. The last time I was in that church was for the funeral of one of the first persons I met when dancing there. Time passes on and so do people.

Yes, some people do live longer and that has always been the case. There is the question of how long is long enough, too, which I think I mentioned already (I repeat myself a lot now). The person I mention who lived past 100 was doing volunteer work at the local hospital when she was 95 or older. "I just answer the phone," she used to say.

I can only speak for myself about aging, though, and I also understand that it is a topic nobody really wants to hear about. Although I guess I have to say I advocate recreational nudity as well as everyday nudity at home when possible, I think there are other things that make a bigger difference in your well-being when you are no long young. Of the straight-forward, inexpensive things one can do, walking is easily the best. It costs nothing and requires no permit at the present and can be done in any kind of weather, although heavy rain keeps me inside. Too bad there are so few opportunities to walk nude so I guess you have to make your own opportunities. The only thing is having to overcome inertia. You have to push yourself a little.

As for angels, when on his death bed and told that the angels were waiting, Ethan Allen said, "Well, let 'em wait."

[eyesup]

I wear the absolute minimum whenever I can.

People are most certainly affected by what they and others wear. If this weren’t true there would be no dress codes anywhere. You would be able to go anywhere that was publicly accessible and wear whatever you want. Even when the law requires clothing, the type of clothes aren’t mentioned in the law. People choose to do that in order to limit and control who they allow in their private affairs. Which is perfectly fine in a free state. Private affair means you get to make the rules that control access and behavior.

High-end clothing implies money, even when the person may have hardly anything. They have convinced themselves that the clothes are important. It happens sub-consciously. This has been the case for centuries.

Duane

[BlueTrain]

The first laws concerning clothing were those that forbade you from dressing above your station in life. But no law is stronger than peer pressure. However, my relatives back home, mostly now deceased, would have no idea what we were talking about. They never gave any thought at all to clothing. Whatever was cheap, locally available and reasonably close to whatever was or had been in style within the last twenty years was good enough for them, provided it was modest, fairly hard-wearing and not difficult to clean. They had horse sense, not fashion sense.

[ric]

that approach to clothing and fashion sounds about right,   only difference now is the local availability aspect, now we tend to order online and have stuff delivered rather than go to local shops which probably havnt actually got what we want anyway.

my wardrobe is pretty much the same as it was twenty years ago.... indeed some of the items are at least 40 years old.    specifically my rarely worn budgie smuglers are at least 40 years old, but still in the bottom of a drawer for emergencies.   the only new items are a couple of beech wraps which get far more use than the budgies ever did.... ill be wearing one on the ride on mower in the front garden in a bit.

[BlueTrain]

Do you mean to say there's no Wal-Mart near where you live? They have everything!

What appropriate clothing is means different things to different people. Most people, referring to men (I can't speak to women's wear), have a suit, kept for real dress-up occasions like weddings, church and funerals, including their own. But for some, a suit is what they wear everyday. Their real dress-up occasions call for a tuxedo, something I've never worn, although I used to wear highland evening dress a lot. I suspect, without any statistic to back me up, that most people (those who never wear a tux) wear pretty much the same thing everyday and are happy, clothes-wise. Where I'm from, when I was little, getting dressed up to go to town meant a clean white shirt worn with bib overalls. But that was just for the country jakes who stood around in front of stores on Saturday morning while their wives went shopping.

I think that sometimes those who would not wear clothing when they can manage it, tend to put more thought into clothing than those who would never dream of never wearing it. But that's just my impression from comments here.