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« Reply #525 on: April 05, 2021, 09:39:03 PM »
The population thins out during the summer. Warm monsoon rains and lightning suggest that. You can notice a distinct drop in vehicle traffic in the summer months.

The original owners place was fenced off for a long time. It was something about legal dispute after a death as I foggily remember.

Yea, one night wouldn't give a whole lot of time to get to know someone who lives there. I stopped by one afternoon with my son in the early 1990's and was similarly bored. There was a lull in business at that time. New management soon after perked things up. Now, there's new facilities and it has been kicking for years.
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« Reply #526 on: April 08, 2021, 07:42:19 PM »
As for the topic "Bugging Out," One thing not mentioned in to climb a tree, if someone is in pursuit and one is available. How many war games were won when I was a kid taking advantage to ambush from up in a tree? How many snipers are up in nest? People just don't look up there. It is better than squatting behind something. People look behind things, but somehow don't look up.

"Bugging Out" has become a Prepper term the last years for heading to a survival creation when the "sh... comes down." Sometimes getting naked and heading for the hills is a release valve to escape the weirdness that is our modern world.
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« Reply #527 on: April 13, 2021, 03:43:26 AM »

Carrying Clothing: From The Secret Naturist Handbook

While it may be desirable to not carry clothing on secret naturist outings this is often impossible and you need to find a suitable way to carry your removed clothing. Generally, clothing is carried in some type of bag and there are various types available including rucksacks, game bags, polythene bags and bumbags.

By Hand
Carrying removed clothing by hand is okay when you have one or two items and is not suitable for anything more. Having your hands free is always useful in the countryside and it can be awkward and tiring to have to carry clothing by hand for any length of time. I rarely use this option.

Rucksacks
A rucksack is a practical option for carrying removed clothing and there is a wide range of products available on the market. However, I've tried a rucksack on secret naturist outings but just didn't like to feel of the rucksack against my bare skin. I also thought the rucksack made me feel as if I was wearing something. Not my preferred method of carrying clothing as clothing is not readily to hand.

Game Bags
A game bag is essentially a shoulder bag with a strap used by hunters or fishermen for carrying tackle or game. Having used a game bag in the past I found them to be quite acceptable for secret naturist use. They are ideal for small amounts of clothing and equipment and shorts are readily to hand for emergencies. Cheap bags are available from game and tackle shops.

Polythene Bags
This cheap and readily available resource can be used for carrying removed clothing on secret naturist trips. They cost next to nothing but do have o be carried by hand which can become tiring after a while.

Bumbags
The bumbag or fanny pack is a small pouch with a belt attached that can be carried around the waist. They come in a variety of sizes and are my preferred means of carrying clothing. I currently use a LoweAlpine Peak Runner which has an internal capacity of 4 litres, enough to carry shorts, t-shirt, longs and jacket. Two mesh pockets will hold items such as water bottle, camera or binoculars. I find the versatility of a bumbag, which can be carried around the waist, across a shoulder or by hand the most suitable for secret naturist use.

When carrying clothing a good tip is to have your shorts readily available should the need arise. When using the bumbag I keep the shorts protruding so that I can simple reach round, grab them and slip them on. Takes only a few seconds and has proved useful on many occasions.
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« Reply #528 on: April 13, 2021, 04:13:30 AM »
By hand, is a hassle. I usually have a sarong or a kilt to put under the shoulder straps of my camera and/or water bottle. It cushions, prevents chapping, is hands free that way and it can cover my shoulders from sunburn, if the sun gets too intense. It is enough to get past the trailhead. Although I prefer nothing at all, this is most often practical. I've tucked a piece of clothing into my armpit. That works pretty well most of the time, but certainly not ideally.

Rucksacks do feel like wearing something, but they will keep lunch and water filter saving weight. When DF and I are out with one, it is nice for one of us to carry the clothing, food and water while the other carries on with the freedom of absolutely nothing...but shoes. There can be a sweat problem on the back. A day pack with a waist belt can keep a covering in the strap, or drape from the belt and cover the front, which is all that is required in many states and still get some air, down there.

I have a mail bag that straps over one shoulder. It is good with a light load to carry things. It can be shifted over to block the view of anyone who might question that I'm wearing pants of some kind. With a load, it does imbalance my body after awhile, where a rucsak makes me top heavy when climbing.

Polythene? Is it raining?

Bumbags=Tanlines. Works with a kilt though. I'd have the thing strapped over my shoulders in no time. Perhaps that would be a good way to wear one? Perhaps a series of little pouches along the bottle strap...hmm, I'll think on that one. When my straps have been on one shoulder long enough to make a tanless area, I shift it to the other. My bare shoulder is always pointing at the sun.

I have a windbreak pant that weighs like two ounces and a windbreaker jacket. I don't have to carry them with, because I choose good safe warm days. They are in the backpack kit.
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Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« Reply #529 on: April 15, 2021, 09:09:08 PM »
I have a small Rucksack/Day Pack.   I usually carry it over one shoulder for a while and then the other.  That keeps it off my back and doesn't make tan lines. 

I usually have sandals, minimal clothes, first aid kit, water, lunch, camera, perhaps a tripod for selfies, and my emergency kit with compass, fire starter, small flashlight, TP, etc. 

I also carry a walking stick which I'm sure has prevented numerous falls over the years of back country wandering.   
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« Reply #530 on: April 21, 2021, 07:05:57 AM »
Cover to Cover: From "The Secret Naturist Handbook"

This technique is used by secret naturists to make best possible use of the cover provided in any given habitat, be it in the countryside or in urban areas. It is similar to methods used by military personnel in urban warfare but has been adapted to suit the special needs of the secret naturist.

Cover to cover is first considered on a secret naturist outing during the planning phase, when the actual route is planned. The route being planned to make best possible use of the natural cover provided by trees, vegetation, wall, undulations in the land and so on. By making this best use of available cover, we reduce the risk of being discovered.

Cover to cover essentially breaks down the route into short sections with points at the start and finish offering either partial cover and concealment or an escape route, before moving onto the next section. Again, as with many secret naturist techniques, this method is best explained by example.

The location in this instance is a relatives house and the route starts from the house, goes through the garden to an open area of ground behind a large building, along hedge and wall, finally ending at the junction where a street meets the head of a set of steps leading to a park. This location can only be tackled at night.

The interior of the house provides the initial starting point, offering complete concealment for undressing as well as a good overall view of the garden but not beyond. The first section runs the length of the house, from the exit door to the corner nearest the garden and along this section both the house and garden provide cover. At the start of the second section, the house corner provides cover while the neighbouring house is surveyed before heading into the garden.

Section two uses the bushes that run along the garden perimeter as cover from the neighbours garden. As the garden slopes steeply upwards, there is no cover here from the road to the front of the house and only darkness provides any protection.

Along the final part of this section, trees provide all round cover and the slope ahead provides cover to view the flat area of ground above and outside the garden.

From this point section three can be viewed safely. This section is open grass and has limited cover. A building directly ahead provided good cover as does the tall hedge that runs parallel to it for a short distance. The rear is protected by the garden. To the right, the view is open to houses and does present the highest risk along this section. To the right is a footpath along which the route takes. Maximum cover is utilised here by keeping between the building and the hedge with a convenient gap in the hedge serving as the cover point for the next stage.

Section four runs along the hedge for a short distance, then continues along a long stretch of high stone wall. A line of trees runs parallel to the wall giving cover to left and right. There is no cover to the front and rear. This long section has the highest risk. Should someone appear ahead, only the cover of darkness is available and retreat would be the only option. Similarly, anyone approaching from the rear when on this section, would be a problem. However, earlier reconnaissance has potential hiding places and various escape routes at the end of the section.

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« Reply #531 on: April 21, 2021, 07:38:13 AM »
The object is to not be seen so as not to be arrested, in a most likely more urban/suburban setting.

I have done secret  naturist activities occasionally like these. In the1980's about once a year I would instigate a group or couple SN action, through my suburban neighborhood. My friends needed to get liquored up to do such nonsense, with a sense of adventure and balls. It wasn't military attitude to us so much as a smuggling operation.

We would use the moonlight. Every moment there was a plan made up on the spot to know where to go to hide until a car or pedestrian passed. There was a heightened awareness, listening. There were those dang motion detector lights. We'd wait till late at night and not around the time that the bars were closing. We took no backup clothing. It was naturism, liberating places not having nakedness before, but it was an adventure.

Found myself watching a drunk friend who wanted to be seen to make sure she got to safety without being arrested.

Didn't take a watch and got stuck over a mile from home at sunup, having to walk home with my wife through the neighborhood in broad daylight nude.

Got stuck in an alley with a buddy for an hour waiting for traffic on the road to calm down.

Got out of breath from running at full tilt when surprised.

Sat in a tree for quite awhile waiting for the kids who were out past curfew to go home.

I had fun with the game of it, but risk can have its drawbacks.I arrange for things to be more calm and I'm not into the risk as I was. My perspective has changed as to the actual danger that I'm in. I don't want danger anymore. I just want to be free. BUT, I sure had fun at those times, or I wouldn't have gone back for more.

When I was a teenager, we would sneak around after curfew and roam just to get away with it. It was fun. We used to run the US/Mexico border, just for fun, to get away with it. not actually smuggling anything, which wasn't illegal. Just a game with the patrols.

So, Lookee was doing this at his relatives house!
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« Reply #532 on: April 29, 2021, 06:51:57 AM »
Estimating Distance: From "The Secret Naturist Handbook"

Just suppose you’re quietly sitting naked somewhere, your clothing is hidden some distance away and your delighted that you’ve managed to walk so far without being seen. Then you notice a movement some distance away. Someone is approaching! How much time do I have before they reach me?

If you recall back to your school days, you may recall that to calculate time you need two other factors - speed and distance. Speed is easy. A human walks generally at around 2 - 2.5 mph. A cyclist will move between 5 - 15mph depending in ground conditions. However, to estimate how far away they are is more difficult. To calculate this we use a method called the visibility method.

This method is based on what you can and can’t see at different distances. It is generally accepted that the resolution of the human eye is about 1 minute of arc or 1/60 degree. In theory this should mean that something that subtends an angle at the eye bigger than 1 minute of arc should be able to be seen, and something smaller cannot.

Unfortunately, it is not quite that simple. Everybody’s eyes are different so some will see better than others. Lighting will affect what can and can’t be seen, as well as colour, contrast, clarity of the atmosphere, heat haze, wind, etc., and even the shape of an object as lines are more easily seen than dots or spots, etc.

Now after all that, you may be wonder what use this method is at all, but it is just as useful as any other judgement method. Right are presented some theoretical distances at which the listed objects or features should be on the limit of visibility. With a bit of practice, you can develop your own list which suits your own eyes and provided you are then aware of all the other factors which can affect your "seeing" you are well on the way to being a reliable distance estimator! Even without calibrating your own eyes, the theoretical distances will probably yield a closer estimate than most people would guess without experience.

To illustrate how the system works, say we can see a person in the distance: we can distinguish the person’s head and legs from their torso but can’t really distinguish their arms (though our mind tells us they are there!). From the table this would indicate the person was between 500 and 700 metres away.

The data in the table assumes items of similar colour, and brightness as its surrounds. High contrast items are easier to see. For example, a light will be easier to see if turned on rather than off and how much so will depend on it’s brightness. The joins between the panels of a car are much easier to see on a white car than a dark coloured one, again due to the contrast of the shadows in the gaps compared to the white panels.

Lines are easier to see then dots, spots or other shapes. Consider how much easier it is to see a 10 gauge fence wire at a distance than it is to see a ball bearing of the same diameter! In fact, some scientific tests have shown the human eye can see lines 3 times thinner than it should theoretically be able to i.e. about 20 seconds of arc!, though these tests were for black lines on a white page.

Now for those of you who like a rule of thumb again, try this one... an object is at the limit of resolution (for the human eye) when it is 3500 times its size away. So consider a car, 1.5 metres tall, 5 metres long. You should be able to begin to resolve it as a car at 1.5 x 3500m = 5.25km away, but at 5 x 3500m = 17.5 km it should be barely visible at all. In between, it should be able to be seen as a spot but not resolved into a car (our mind will often do this for us though if the context - e.g. it is moving along a road - suggests it is a car).

Remember that objects seem closer than they really are when:

•   The light is bright or the sun is shining from behind the viewer.
•   They are bigger then other things around them.
•   There is hidden ground between them and the viewer.
•   They are higher up then the viewer.

Objects seem farther away than they really are when:

•   The light is bad or the sun is in the viewer’s eyes.
•   They are smaller than other things around them.
•   The viewer is looking across a valley, or down a ravine.
•   The viewer is lying down.
•   The object is against a dark background.

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« Reply #533 on: May 04, 2021, 03:55:21 AM »
Animals catch movement, so do I. Sitting still hides me and alerts me to others movement.

Longer legs move faster, there is great variation in speed among walkers.

Where one might expect people, it is better to be more alert.

I can figure distance, by what I see more intuitively. It is natural, like learning the time of day by where the sun sits, with practice, it is natural. When it is relevant, it can kick in. Too much intellect can bog up the works.

What I see in others at a distance, they will probably see me the same.

I use these practices when looking for nature, that is hunting animals to observe, or photograph. I use these same techniques to figure how far to water, to the trailhead, etc.

My vision isn't limited to 60 degrees, if I'm "there," I get better than 180 degrees. If I hold my hands at 180, then move them behind me, I still see them and that brings me to the other senses that people have but don't often tune into. Being nude, those same senses are closer to use.
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My senses and unconscious pick up on more, like a person in the distance. Sometimes I sense. Sometimes I smell an animal.
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« Reply #534 on: May 04, 2021, 05:43:39 PM »
Good thoughts.  Motion is an important part of vision.   The way eyes work is that we see changes in light.   In order to see fixed objects our eyes shift back and forth to provide apparent changes in light on each receptor.   This is why when you look at some Internet "can you see the hidden number" puzzles it helps to move your eyes.   

Noticing motion of humans or animals is a biological and evolutionary survival skill.  It is said that a hunter can walk right up to a deer if he watches where the deer is looking and only moves when the deer is looking the other way.  Move a little, and then stop before the deer (or other animal) looks back in your direction.  I'm sure that works for people also.  Fixed, stationary objects are background, unnoticed, not there.  You can actually hide in plain sight by not moving. 

The caveat is that we (and other animals) instinctively recognize shapes that are similar to faces and body parts.  A pair of eyes looking our direction can be noticed in a complex background.  The Internet is full of people posting shapes that are similar to sex organs -- because we instinctively recognize shapes that are like a person or part of a person.  So if we want to be invisible to another person, don't look at or focus your attention on the person.  Don't present a face or silhouette that appears like a human.  Look away and focus your attention on something else.  Use your peripheral vision to watch the other person or animal.   

Some people say that thoughts can be "felt" by sensitive people.  So if you are thinking about that person they are more likely to notice you.  If you project thought about something else on the path the other person, if sensitive, will notice the other thing and not you.  His attention will "pick up" your focus on a tree or rock or mountain and be distracted away from you. 

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« Reply #535 on: May 04, 2021, 07:33:41 PM »
If the object is to hide, I have placed myself naked where the only sight of me is when another hiker needs to be looking down for footing.
We've stood still as close as ten feet off a trail in an open desert naked and not been noticed, by walkers and often bikers. The peripheral vision is diminished as needed. The focus is also a distraction.

Some people are aware of many objects at once, others are highly observant of what is in front of them. These tend to be feminine and masculine and traits, respectively, which vary. It's like some people are multitaskers. The theory with that research, is that women would keep track of children and picking/gathering, a multitask and men would hunt focused on a trail or prey, in most traditions. Always, exceptions to the rule and in varying degrees.

I find women to most often talk along the trail, giving warning, but also distracted from the task at hand. I have just wrapped around a tree as they pass. We once sat in an open field, within fifty feet of a bend in a trail, so that we were right in front of the path of the walkers and four out of five didn't see us.

Conversely, standing still, behind or around a moving object like wind blown bushes, makes one more noticeable, by the simple contrast.

Being invisible, while being naked, smuggling, war games, or hunting animals has always been fun for me, a game to play. I like the heightened senses.

The other hikers awareness will vary. How deeply they are in thought, can focus and take immediate awareness of surroundings.

Bob, that last paragraph that you wrote is intriguing.Those things that are beyond 180 degree vision, or the sounds of the city are disregarded in consciousness, but they are still being processed. How the unconscious deals with that information can be wild, or cast off as meaningless. Instead of an alarm, one might not register another human being standing off to the side, or in a bush, but the information is there. The response subconsciously might be to see what the other person is looking at, for some reason (perhaps city social habit) more important than the presence of another person.

Then there is the quantum idea that thought is energy and will interact with other energy, or vibration.

We are off of the specific of distance perception, but...fun.  I think that this whole section labeled "Skills" will be fun. It is hunting,  very primal, and awareness and natural in nature, which is an aspect of "naturism."  This makes me want to do some stealth. or sneaking around in the woods this summer.
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« Reply #536 on: May 06, 2021, 05:51:30 PM »
Many people aren't paying much attention to what is around them.
One of the main reasons people get lost is because they didn't bother to look around and see where they walked, and never looked back to see what it looks like from the other direction.  Then when they decide to head home, they have no idea where they are, and no idea what the path going home looks like. 

Stationary objects are often not seen, even if an animal (or person) looks right at us. 
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« Reply #537 on: May 06, 2021, 11:29:58 PM »
I have also studied a little the way we perceive things that relates to our ancient origins in the course of my work some years ago so I can relate to what Bob and Jbee write very clearly.  It seems a little beyond your 'peripheral vision' to note also that people may indeed be aware of you naked on the trail  but simply choose to avoid looking at you! :D
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« Reply #538 on: May 07, 2021, 02:01:09 PM »
The whole question of hiding from other people should not be a given, especially in the UK, Kansas, Spain, and other places where being naked is legal as long as you aren't intentionally trying to disturb other people.  Hiding our bodies when we meet other people reinforces our training that somehow what we are doing is "wrong" or "bad."  A better approach is to act as if being naked is a normal every day choice.  When we act normal, continue on our way and give a friendly greeting to textile people we pass on a trail, we will almost always be accepted as normal. Some clothed people, from seeing how comfortable we are, will wonder if they are doing it wrong.  Occasionally one will take off his or her clothes to join our comfort.   Rarely, only rarely, someone will make a crass comment, but that is usually from their own insecurity about their own body.

If we are seen hiding, or apologize for being naked and rapidly cover up, we display the message that our nude behavior is somehow "wrong," we know its wrong, and we are ashamed of ourselves.  That is the wrong message that nudist organizations presented for the whole 20th century, and it resulted in nudists being outlawed, arrested, and shunned as some kind of freaks.  More recently, and particularly on Internet, many of us have become unashamed.  Some national nudist federations have promoted nudism, a choice not to buy and wear textiles, as a fundamental right and freedom, notably in US and Spain.. In other places the nude resort industry still depends on nude being generally illegal so we don't yet have backing from nudist federations, but most of the younger nudists are posing on Internet and out naked in nature. 

We do ourselves and nude freedom a disservice when we hide or apologize for our beautiful human bodies.  Secret naturism is counterproductive to nude acceptance and nude freedom.  Just saying. 
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« Reply #539 on: May 07, 2021, 09:08:54 PM »
So, true Bob.
It is also a disservice to ones own self concept to enforce. or succumb to oppressive, unhealthy body concepts by being a part of the dominate culture's game. I have discovered that I can't be a free natural human being, until I can deal with nature and spirituality in nature's terms. Some of that is to shake off the knee jerk ingrained inside of me.

It is different to be aware of and accept that something is off. Part of this may be being naked in a situation that is risky, or risky because of legality. There can be consequences to minding ones own's business when naked in a public place.  When hiding, this makes a secret naturist aware of the imposed game's affect on themselves. For example, the tingly feelings when nude and out of the cage.

This also, creates a way to rebel. This encourages them to be more free range, perhaps more bold, or discover that much of their fears are not justified. So, personally, I think secret naturism has its place. Many of us here have evolved from a secret naturist beginnings. It may be that others need to catch up.

Secret naturism can be a fun game. In the 1980's, when i would instigate stealth excursions into the neighborhood late at night, the idea had little to do with liberation, or being naked. It was about stealth, awareness, risk, getting a rush, playing a game, so to speak. We did it for kicks. We had the perceived extreme risks, the chances, the figuring of odds, the stealth tactics, and the goal to get further, winning the game.

So, yes, the goal is to get liberated from textile "trappings" the addicting, not green, the basis for many unhealthy societal games, to make clothing unnecessary except for comfort, perhaps ritual. To just be able to choose to be naturally nude without hassle. I'm also saying take their artificial game and have some fun with it, when you are in the mood, that is okay, too.

It was gratifying that two young women voiced appreciation to DF in particular for encouraging them by our example. All we do is stay in naked enjoyment around clothed people at the hot springs. We don't get dressed when we get out of the water, we act just like them only without clothing. We walk, lounge, socialize and use the community kitchen nude. Not so secret at all. But do we need to be in a social activist role all the time?

It is not just about social revolution, but finding practical ways to expand boundaries, to explore perceived restricted places as potential liberation, but still being practical. Bob, you have a woods and I have a tall wall for privacy, but you'll see if you can mow the weeds out front and get the mail. Me I have learned that I can stand in my driveway, greeting and sending off guests, without much chance of bad consequence. I'm always doing that kind of stretching. It sometimes gives that element of confronting fear, after all don't people read books and see scary movies? Don't we all need to reconcile personal psychological shadows? My website has a great deal to do with staying naked legally, in-spite of being in a place where bodies are illegal, or freedoms preyed upon by sick people. To mind our own business nude comfortably, free ranging. So, some stealth in some places keeps me naked.

Hiding isn't always a mouse in a hole, it can be an underground resistance, a reconnoiter, a getting feet wet. Then sometimes the underground throws out a banner that embarrasses those in power, or encourages the truth at a public gathering.

Sometime, I just want to not be hassled by concerns of my nudity, so I don't let on, I hide it. I'll choose the time and place for my battles. I choose not to be wrapped up in full time activism, but I choose to be as nearly full time nude as I can. I'm pretty much just sayin' there's a time and place for fun and games, for whatever reason.

Rambling on, I listened and watched the traffic and foot traffic at my new house. I sat and watched the lights, where they shined, sat quietly naked in the front yard, looking over angles of sight. I watched where people looked when they passed. I noted the time. I stood clothed and walked around the neighborhood to see what others could see of my property. I noticed the frequency of the neighbor in my backyard, what they could see and put up line of sight barriers and turned off certain lights. I learned that my window screens protected me from view in most light. I positioned my old van to hide me from the passersby. I learned what I needed. I'm two blocks from a major police station the size of a big box store. That's secret naturism and free range.

Then, I built a 6 foot plus wall around the property making a clear message, what I do on my property ain't nobody's business but my own. The driveway isn't enclosed, but I know how to use it nude, day and night. If anyone asks, I'll tell them, we like to be nude and safe, call first. The rest is obvious. The wall was plan A. That's my sanctuary and my friend's, a chosen safe place, not so much penned up. When I go out, it is a different environment.

I'd like to wave my naturist flag high and have people join under that banner. But, I have to be careful whether I'm dressed, or in the best place to do any such thing.

I also share your point that the result of hiding is "outlawed, arrested, and shunned as some kind of freaks" but there have been some legal changes, and labeled or shunned as "freaks" is only in small pockets and "curiosities" seems more prevalent. Getting out there, speaking up, has made a difference. Peoples predilection toward body curiosity, being naturist, yet latent, pushes the social changes on.

It occurred to me, that in my personal experience, many more people have stripped off with me than have complained over all of the years. Sure location and circumstance have had something to do with that, BUT!.... ;)

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Barefoot all over, all over.