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Re: clothing is really bad
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2024, 01:30:25 PM »
. So, you can be comfortably nude indoors during those cold winter months?
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Yeah , it's ok.. not steamy hot, but comfortable.new double glazed windows and the roof well insulated with compressed natural wood fibre under a modern 24 leaf insulation material has made a huge difference to an old building. Stone walls are never going to be completely efficient, but they do keep the building naturally cool in the hot summer months. So it does have some good effects on the cold conditions as well.. luckily winters are generally shorter here than more northern climes so milder weather is normal at this time of year. December is generally cold -5 to -10 but we had 20C at the end of January. Foggy start to February though.. ying and yang
 
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« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2024, 03:19:48 PM »
Warm enough to work naked today..


The photographer doesn't think so though


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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2024, 08:51:16 PM »
Way to build homes.  I always did drywall naked too because it's easier to wash off skin than fabric. 
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2024, 10:47:53 PM »
I'm slower on home projects when I do them nude, but I make fewer mistakes, I enjoy the process more, as I'm more fully immersed and focused around my surroundings.

I cover myself top to bottom from sparks. Hot metal in the sun, like a roof, needs clothing. I wear a painting hat and the paint pops off skin and I'm more careful and aware. I wear shoes for demolition, generally. Boots to shovel dig. My outdoor shower, on warmer days, takes care of dust, dirt, some paint, cement and most grime.

How thick are those rock walls? I'd think that the inner wall would store some of the heat and radiate it back. It does have a wonderful rustic fun look. I'd love to have it together to make something like that. There are a few old volcanic rock homes in the Tucson Mountains, otherwise it is stick and stucco, or blocks. Adobe can be found in older homes, but it's faked in newer ones. My strawbale house had a rustic adobe look with the massive 2 1/2 foot thick walls.
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2024, 11:02:22 PM »
Mark,
That's some velux window you have there.  Looks as though that room is headed for light and airy! :)


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My strawbale house had a rustic adobe look with the massive 2 1/2 foot thick walls
Say, my friend, over the years we heard much about your house and your walks into the landscape beyond to haverock and the like, a couple of arden snaps but never a photo of the house itself.  I'd love to see a few pics of "the house that Jbee built".  A few years ago curiosity led me to look up your place on google maps but there wasn't a good view - the google photo mapping van maybe didn't get all the way to your rustic haven!
The new place downtown seems to be shaping up well and you seem to be enjoying living there - yes?
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2024, 12:13:03 PM »
That's the plan John...



2 windows in the end wall as well. There's a smaller velux on the other side of the roof as well...

Lots of work!
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2024, 12:16:44 PM »
How thick are those rock walls? I'd think that the inner wall would store some of the heat and radiate it back. It does have a wonderful rustic fun look.

The stone wall is approx 2ft thick.. local stone that had been there since the house was built... ie along time!
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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2024, 01:53:53 AM »
I amend my original statement. In the summer, here, clothing is not really bad. I hereby state that Clothing is really REALLY bad! Just plain stupid. Sometimes, it is really really really godawfull!

I have to put something on to go shopping, voting, to clubs with music. It makes me want to just stay home all of the time. Well, that does save me money....
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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2024, 09:48:27 AM »
Much to do about clothing. These stats are shocking to me, and I've heard stuff like this before. Clothing obsession is nuts and immoral and getting worse.

How much obsession is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCwbU41Icfw

Much to do about what should be nothing. At least I am under less pressure to be within fashion and buy less clothing, wearing it longer. I even got a shirt that I liked at a used clothing store last year for a couple of bucks, and it is of better quality than new. This BS has helped me get away with keeping my individuality. I don't wear clothing and yet these same silly consumers think that I'm the one that's weird. ;D

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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2024, 11:43:45 PM »
Interesting and sobering documentary. Cute presenter!
The clothing waste dump in the Atacama Desert that can be seen from space was particularly depressing.
What we throw away (and I am not speaking personally here, I generally keep clothes until they wear out or don't fit) seemingly, if suitably distributed, could clothe so many people who are below the poverty line and could do with some free duds.
I must admit to buying budget clothing a lot.  I see so many so called 'designer brands' that simply put their badge on the same old rubbish and charge 3-10 fold more for it.  This is certainly true for basic items like T shirts, shirts and jeans - give me the supermarket version at an affordable price anyday.
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Re: clothing is really bad
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2024, 12:56:08 AM »
I amend my original statement. In the summer, here, clothing is not really bad. I hereby state that Clothing is really REALLY bad! Just plain stupid. Sometimes, it is really really really godawfull!   Jbee

Agreed completely Jbee.   Clothing is really bad in hot weather.  Hiding ourselves from other people is RUDE.  We are a very social species who always want to see each other.
Clothing in hot weather is rude, ugly, uncomfortable, unhealthy, unnatural, and really really stupid. 
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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2024, 12:59:17 AM »
Interesting and sobering documentary. Cute presenter!
The clothing waste dump in the Atacama Desert that can be seen from space was particularly depressing.
What we throw away (and I am not speaking personally here, I generally keep clothes until they wear out or don't fit) seemingly, if suitably distributed, could clothe so many people who are below the poverty line and could do with some free duds.
John

I read recently that the average piece of clothing is only worn about 8 times before it is tossed out.  The "fashion" industry makes $$ Billions marketing the "new" fashion, and impulse "shopping" for women.  Huge waste of natural resources, and a huge trash stream. 
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« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2024, 11:43:27 AM »
Jeez! AND I thought maybe people were getting with the idea of the silliness of clothing and just tossing it away as useless. Now you tell me they go buy more clothing?! Gheewiz! That sounds just doubly silly.... :o

Why can they not wake up? People on average spending $4000 on clothing a year on just clothing, it was said!?! It may be that we are all doomed as a race and people like that are the cause.
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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2024, 02:33:42 PM »
Why can they not wake up? People on average spending $4000 on clothing a year on just clothing, it was said!?! It may be that we are all doomed as a race and people like that are the cause.Jbee

That $4,000 per year each pays for huge political slush funds to buy legislatures to pass laws mandating purchase and use of clothing.   $4,000 per year per person is a whole lot of money. 
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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2024, 10:07:22 PM »
In January of 2020, I bought three pairs of shorts and two pairs of long pants. I already had a few pairs of older pants. A couple were worn, but that made them more fashionable.

I've bought a couple of new shirts since, that I liked and can wear them for years to come because of their enduring style, layering and not fitting short tern trends. I happened upon a shirt that I liked in a thrift store while looking for camping equipment in Blanding, Utah. I was given three shirts since 2020, that I like, again enduring style.

With that many clothes and I have more, a closet full, they are not wearing out. They seldom get worn as it is, but a few hours here and there. They don't get dirty, still smell fresh from the last wash. I could wear them three times and still only have them on 6 or 7 hours.

I wash clothing on a more gentle cycle. DF has convinced me over years to be environmental and dry with solar. It works very well here, better than running an electric dryer. The cloths are fresher and better texture, but more than that, they don't wear out anywhere near as quickly as using mechanical dryers. My clothing lasts for many many years.

Sheets and towels also last much much longer using this method, but on a more intense cycle. These are most of my laundry. I sit on towels and bathe with such. A few are used each week during the sweats, but these are very old, as they are meant to be abused some almost rags, but that's what you want to use in a sweat.

I do wash socks and underwear after just one use.

My dryer died, and rather than fixing it, or replacing it, which seems plain stupid, I use it for storage. It could be a good place for valuables, nobody looks there. I store extra medical and toiletries in there, instead of taking up closet space. ;)

I don't dress a bum. I get complements. Going out dancing, it can make me feel celebratory, festive.

So, I'm well dressed when I have to be and I haven't spent much more than a hundred bucks in over six years on clothing. It sounds eccentric to me on the face, just to hear that, yet, I'm probably exposed to less toxins and off gassing, I'm certainly WAY better for the planet's pollution, reduce and reuse, repurpose. I'm spending my resources on things that I prefer and are more useful to a full life. My bank account isn't stressed and therefore me. I have better hobbies than a "dedicated follower of fashion," Kinks, "plastic boots and plastic hat, and you think you know where it's at," Frank Zappa.

In contrast, here are people on average spending thousands per year. They may get some kind of fleeting feel good out of their wardrobe and being manipulated, but I'll bet it can't compare with the pleasure and health that I have in my natural state. I'm of the opinion that I am not the eccentric one. We have to consider the ludicrous conformity being ultimately practiced by the masses.

Oh yea, FEET! Because of my unusual healthy natural feet, I make my own shoes, or I don't wear them, or cavort in high-end flip-flops, or use toe shoes. Five finger toe shoes show little wear, don't use them that much, but when I do, they start hiking, unless they are my street pair, when they are shot for hiking they become work shoes, sometimes with duct tape. They just seem to go on and on.

I still have some business outfits that don't get much use. A good pair of slacks can go a long way and look good.   
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