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Re: Footwear for Nude Bodies: Pros and Cons
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2020, 10:04:05 PM »

  Has your injury fully healed?
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Well, it was during lockdown for the epidemics. So double containment. No hiking and running for a while!
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2020, 10:56:39 PM »

  Has your injury fully healed?
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Yes and no.  The cut has healed completely but the ball of my thumb has a hard pad about 7 or 8mm diameter under the skin where feeling has not returned and it's a bit over sensitive to knocks and pressure.  I am hoping this will gradually repair but as a friend who accidentally put their fingers in a hand blender some months before my injury remarked, recovery is a very slow business.  My thumb may not fully return to how it was before.  There is a scar of course, and the thumbprint doesn't unlock my phone any more as it has changed sufficiently to mismatch with its previous registered print! 
It's amazing how even such a small injury can cause significant disability.  When the finger was bandaged (several weeks) and after, I couldn't fasten my shirt buttons or pick small objects up (still challenging)!  It didn't take long to learn to do buttons without using my thumb but what surprised me was how very automatic the action was, done pretty much unconsciously, before the injury.  Made me think about the issues of disability in general.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2020, 02:48:39 AM »
Having sustained certain injuries, some requiring medical attention like stitches and clamps and so on, over the course of my short life (I'm 73), I think there is a certain part of disability that is more mental than physical. That's not to say that a disability is not crippling to some degree by any means but the willingness to cope with it needs to be there. In other words, you don't want a disability to stop you, even if it slows you down a little. But sooner or later, that's going to happen in the natural course of things anyway. Of course, there are people who like having an excuse to not do something and to stay in bed instead.

If you have any sense and you live long enough, eventually you learn to be really careful and not take so many chances.

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2020, 09:08:19 PM »
Yes, I agree Blue Train.  Inevitably any disability has to be overcome in order to exist in whatever state you are with the disability.  Even if you are negative and depressed about it, you have to work round it in some respects.  Mind you, I never did turn down an opportunity to stay in bed a little longer in the mornings!  But not as a living space.  In my case we are talking about a tiny knob of numbness on one thumb (left) so not really a disability.  I was writing though about the extent to which even a very small inconvenience has its wider ramifications which you don't realise until its happened.


An example occurs of working around disability from some years ago when I did a bit of volunteer work for a very forward looking home for very disabled young adults, usually with a degree of cerebral palsy.  Most were confined to wheelchairs and with communication difficulties.  It was from that experience that I learned that there's no such thing as a 'standard' disability.  Everyone is unique.  The aim of the home was to help their inmates to independence in 3 years (like a degree) where independence often meant living using carers to varying degrees.  The home organised an amazing programme for each individual and groups to teach them all manner of stuff including drama and management.  I enquired why management was on their curriculum, as my naïve, prejudiced mind thought that few would achieve a management role in a firm.  But that wasn't the aim.  The staff member I was talking to pointed out that when you are disabled you have so many management tasks, managing and scheduling carers and their provider firms, dealing with social services and benefits civil servants, medical staff and all the things you need to manage a residence (that most of us take for granted and do without thought).  And when you can only talk or type at a few words a minute or have to spell words out on a letter board to communicate, that takes management and organisational skill - so they get taught some of that. 
Most of the residents of that home may have been palsied and unable to move properly or talk properly but all were intelligent and bright, some had qualifications and all wanted to make their way in the world as independently as possible.  They were, of course, selected for that attribute and mental ability.  But it made you realise that disability was actually the norm for them and therefore aware of their motivation to prepare for their future life despite that disability.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2020, 11:44:04 PM »
I suppose that in the context of this forum, and to some extent, this thread, the only disability that we're interested in is mobility, or rather, the lack of mobility. When you have a disability, either permanent or temporary, that limits how well you can get around, your world suddenly shrinks. At worst, you're confined to your bed or at least your bedroom. But I think at least one person did the Appalachian Trail on crutches and another one covered the trail who was blind. Those were certainly exceptional individuals.

Supposedly if you have a disability, your remaining facilities are enhanced. But I don't know if that's true.

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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2020, 02:49:29 AM »
It is very often miraculously true, but not necessarily, that another sense makes up for the loss. Brains rewire, need makes practice, awareness is relative to the task, opportunity or situation.

Teenagers have now been documented to have a sort of disconnect that explains why they do stupid things. However, during that stage of  life, what could be more beneficial than something that allows one to grow, explore, take risk, instead of hunker up and never live, or live safe and fearful.

My dad was confined to a chair, unable to speak, care for himself, even eating was generally a problem. Parkinsons, diabetes and degenerative blindness. He could listen to football, he was sharp as a tack, his focus was amazing. He would listen to me read for hours, say something out of the encyclopedia, when most people's minds trail off after about 20 minutes (so say the studies, I was a teacher). We're adaptive amazing and cared for, especially when humbled.
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2023, 03:55:41 AM »
Here is an update after a few years after our discussions and experimentation with huaraches and barefoot health and sense of natural freedom, the guy that had started a business selling the rubber ones has progressed and nailed down a lot of informative stuff. This is an interview that I stumbled upon with him, more recently.

He puts a lot in a nutshell, here. I find this really great stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8tyBoRYaMs

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2023, 09:54:51 PM »
Sashen and his partner (Lisa?) are great.  They took the Xero shoes business from a mom& pop diy product of soles and string to a considerable business today and expanding and new website coming shortly and a full British reseller (which means you don't have to wait weeks for postage from USA).  Their sandals are great - I have a pair of their early DIY huaraches which are still going strong and a more recent huarache type minimal sandal - these I think https://xeroshoes.co.uk/xero-shoes-genesis.html and a pair of walking boots which are 100% waterproof, cool, airy and very comfortable although a little tricky to slip off if you want to get your trousers (pants) off or walk barefoot, but great for hiking.
https://xeroshoes.co.uk/xero-shoes-xcursion-fusion.html - they were pricy but worth it.
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2023, 06:07:58 PM »
My preference when weather, surface, and activity allow is to be barefoot. Next preference are Vibram 5-Fingers, which allow natural mechanical function, while providing some protection. For work (my job) and for some projects at home, boots are a necessary protection.

Like others have mentioned, our feet are made for walking and running. I used to have frequent "ankle rolls" in boots or shoes. Too many places I went required more protection than bare feet. When I started wearing the 5-Fingers, I found that my feet, ankles, and lower legs developed more strength, flexibility, and stability. And, it's harder to roll an ankle without a clunky shoe/boot heel or sole in the way.

Flip-flops are good for some situations, but not a good full-time option. I wear them when I'm planning to spend time barefoot, but need to get past areas that aren't good for bare feet. They're not safe for climbing on anything, or for walking on rugged terrain. And, of course, they don't lend themselves to normal foot mechanics, as they require some effort to keep from walking out of them.

At home, I use two pairs of Crocs...one for the front door and one for the back door. If it's a quick trip outside, I can slip into them, keep my feet clean and dry, then I ditch them outside the door and go back into the house barefoot without tracking dirt or mud inside. Or, if I'm spending lots of time barefoot outside, I can easily wash my feet at the hydrant, slip into the Crocs, and walk to the door with clean feet. They provide a little protection, but also a false sense of security. I recently stepped on a cut-off pine sapling stump with Crocs. I'd cut the area with my brush mower, which creates something like a pungee stick...sharp pointed and well-rooted...that takes a while to decompose. The rubber Croc kept me from feeling the sharp point before I put weight on it. Not feeling the point, I continued my stride. The rubber held until there was sufficient weight and force to drive the point through the rubber, through the bottom of my big toe, under the skin, and out through the top of the toe. I'm pretty certain that if I'd been barefoot, I'd have felt the point and instinctively corrected my step, avoiding injury. Even if I had gotten "poked", I wouldn't have put my full weight down, so it wouldn't likely have been a "through-and-through" injury.

Someone mentioned snakes. We have lots of snakes in Arkansas. Most are non-venomous, but we do have a few different species of rattlesnakes, "Cottonmouths" or water moccasins, and copperheads. There are frequent warnings about snakebites and bare feet. But most snakes, and particularly the larger rattlesnakes and moccasins, are usually going to strike higher up, somewhere in the calf range. Copperheads have been known to bite toes, but they're usually trying for something higher, too. Like mentioned in another post, bare footing requires a level of attention to where we step, which helps to keep aware of snakes.
 
On the subject of natural foot function, I'd recommend reading (or listening to) Christopher McDougal's book "Born To Run".
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2023, 07:27:59 AM »
We participated in a cleanup in the nude section of Redington Pass recently. When we got here, DF realized hat she had forgotten her five toes. She had flipflops. She moved a tad slower, but it is a well maintained trail with staircases of rock here and there.
At the bottom of the canyon, there is a lot of rock hopping, sand and water to wade through. I put my shoes in my bag, as did she. We did the rest of the1/2 mile, or so, barefoot all over. It is such a wonderful spot for that. Such a treat for feet, a biped playground with several spots that require four points of contact.

Feet loved the outing.
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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2023, 08:20:41 PM »
I much prefer being barefoot when I can. There are some places that it's just not practical, or even safe, to be barefoot. My "next best" is Vibram 5-Fingers. They've been the most reliable footwear I've found for hiking and running, unless it's really cold and wet, or snowing. I used to constantly roll my ankles with boots on rough terrain. Didn't usually sprain them, but wound up on my butt more than a few times. The VFFs allow the feet, ankles, and lower legs to function like they're supposed to, which conditions and strengthens them, and helps prevent that rolling.

The biggest drawback to VFFs for me is that they're annoying to wear with jeans, because the back of the pants leg gets under my heels. Of course, not wearing pants solves that problem! (Shorts and kilts work well, too...if one MUST wear anything!)
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2023, 12:50:11 AM »
They came out with a new camo with the strap instead of the laces and offered me a 20% off birthday gift. Just got new ones. Don't know what I'd do without them. I no longer lose toenails.
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2023, 06:49:49 PM »
Happy Birthday, JBee! Hope you got to dress up in your birthday suit for the occasion!

I've worn out two or three pairs of VFFs, all with the velcro strap. Actually still trying to finish off the latest of those. Got a new pair a while back, with the quick-laces. I've worn them a few times, but haven't really put them to test yet.
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2023, 11:01:33 PM »
My heel being regular and spread up front to quaduple EEEE (think duck's foot) leaves my heel slipping out of the lace up shoes and dangerous on a trail or in the water.

The velcro models only come out once in a while. The thicker tr tread soles haven't been around for years.
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2023, 03:42:35 PM »
Here is an update after a few years after our discussions and experimentation with huaraches and barefoot health and sense of natural freedom, the guy that had started a business selling the rubber ones has progressed and nailed down a lot of informative stuff. This is an interview that I stumbled upon with him, more recently.
Jbee 

I bought the huaraches a few years ago because of our discussions.   When the toe string tore through the rubber sole I bought more.  For the past few years I have had 2 pair, one black string and one green string.   I wear them when cutting up my fire killed trees because of all the half grown pine cones.  Just last week the side string tore through the sole.  I suppose the side got caught on a downed branch or something.  Anyway I'm looking at buying some of the newer ones with the pre-made straps.  They appear to have a rubber lump under the toes to hold its front strap.  I'm wondering if that lump would be uncomfortable.  Tying my own strings was a hassle, and keeping them adjusted so they didn't fall off in back was more of a hassle.  The new style with pre-made straps my have fixed that.

I'm not recognizing the "VFF" abbreviation.  What is VFF? 

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