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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2022, 10:26:26 PM »
Good progress and without any real strategy, just fate's hand and your perseverance...how hard was that to stay nude for three weeks?  ;)

Glad that she is on the mend.

Fresh air is great for bed sores....

Fresh air is great for most everything....

So, how have your outside ventures been with all of the nice "warm" (Arizonan thinking) and sunny weather?

Your stress and torment as spouse of a sick person must have been mitigated by your freedom, sensual experience and novelty. Science tells us that nudity and nature will help with these things and you have deserved the relief. You could take a walk in nature as a stress relief, tell her that and then visit your secret spot for a couple of hours?

Glad that she is getting better generally. Too bad she can't enjoy the healthful sit nude in her backyard breathing and sipping cold tea. It would be good for her. Stiff upper lip ain't always the best long term attitude.

DF is progressing toward what we discussed elsewhere, by the way.
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2022, 09:35:58 PM »
News says that it is still hot and dry in Europe...historical stuff. Forest are burning in Bordeaux and Spain, evacuations. My recollection is that that is highly unusual.

Is that the case further north? Sustained record highs, clear sunny skies, drought?
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2022, 09:49:43 PM »
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Good progress and without any real strategy, just fate's hand and your perseverance...how hard was that to stay nude for three weeks?
Easy peasy of course!

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So, how have your outside ventures been with all of the nice "warm" (Arizonan thinking) and sunny weather? 
I've been in the garden a lot but outings impossible as had to visit hospital daily, some 25 miles away.  What's been really good is just conducting normal existence without clothes at all for protracted periods.

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Your stress and torment as spouse of a sick person must have been mitigated by your freedom,

It was, but I felt a bit guilty having this freedom at her expense.  Mind you I had little difficulty in putting that to one side!! :D :D


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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2022, 10:44:49 AM »
About that carnuding banter that Bob and I put you through... It occurred to me that after that trip across the USA and a couple a hundred drives drives across Arizona and bordering states, I probably have logged well over 10,000 miles nude with another cross country trip is gearing up.  There have been no problems, nor issues. It has just gotten easier.
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2022, 02:15:32 PM »
About that carnuding banter that Bob and I put you through... It occurred to me that after that trip across the USA and a couple a hundred drives drives across Arizona and bordering states, I probably have logged well over 10,000 miles nude with another cross country trip is gearing up.  There have been no problems, nor issues. It has just gotten easier.
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Yes, nude driving is way more comfortable.  Just yesterday I drove 145 miles each way and back to bicycle on a new section of the former railroad grade which is now a State Park Trail, and their refurbished bridge across the Columbia river.  Driving, bicycling, all naked. 

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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2022, 06:18:11 PM »
Was that all legal where you live, Bob? Washington state is such a patchwork of nude laws.

How many miles of naked riding are possible on the old track? Would someone maybe do a nude bike-pack trip on that trail? Would it eventually pass through towns? What is the name of the park?
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2022, 07:41:06 PM »
Was that all legal where you live, Bob? Washington state is such a patchwork of nude laws.

Washington used to have local laws against being naked until Seattle V. Johnson when the state court of appeals ruled that cities can't have a nudism law more restrictive than the state law.  Seattle had to pay a settlement to Johnson and modify it's local laws to comply with state law.   To be illegal under Seattle v. Johnson you have to be DOING something indecent or INTENDING to cause someone else to be alarmed or affronted.   All of which means that cities and state agencies in WA can't harass or arrest naked people minding our own business while naked.   It would be hard to argue that driving down the freeway is either indecent or intends to affront someone else.

I do much of my trail bicycling on the paved sections between Spokane and Cheney.  I meet other people.  Hardly anyone complains.  It would be hard to argue that bicycling down a trail is doing something indecent or intending to affront someone.   Before Seattle v. Johnson the State Park Department had a regulation prohibiting "disrobing in a park."  Since Seattle v. Johnson that regulation vanished. So naked bicycling in a State Park trail is governed by the same Seattle v. Johnson law decision.   Bicycling is not doing something indecent, and doesn't show "intent" to affront other people.


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How many miles of naked riding are possible on the old track? Would someone maybe do a nude bike-pack trip on that trail? Would it eventually pass through towns? What is the name of the park?
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Old railroads now turned into State Park Trails run all the way from Seattle to Idaho.  However some of the old railroad was an easement rather than ownership so the land reverted to previous ownership when the railroad was abandoned.  That means there are some pieces where you have to detour around on roads.  In theory I could bicycle almost the whole distance from home to this bridge, most of it naked, and most in wild country.  In practice that would be difficult.

At the other end of this bridge is a small town called Beverly.  You can ask google maps for a location.  A century ago it was common for railroads to deliberately pass through towns, and for towns to grow beside railroads.  Many of the towns are still there in some form or other, although when the railroad went away there were many towns that folded up with it. 

The railroad trail is covered with crushed rock gravel.  That becomes less that nice for bicycles.  The other problem not thought out well is that the State Park Dept. doesn't allow overnight camping on their trails. The small towns don't have hotels.   A hundred miles of trail can't be done in one day, and there is no place to spend the night. 

I've walked several sections naked, but I don't like the crushed rock even walking.  Then you have to walk back to where you parked.  That limits my distance.  . 

This trail is now called Palouse to Cascades Trail.   It was formerly called  John Wayne Pioneer Trail.  Sometimes you can find it written both ways on the same map.  There also is the Columbia Crest Trail which also goes from Idaho to the Columbia River.  Different abandoned railroad.  See pic. of parking area.





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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2022, 02:03:49 AM »
A lot of the early locomotives needed to refuel/rewater every 30 miles or so. That meant that at least a small station was needed at those points, and it was natural for towns to grow up around those places, if there wasn't one there already. That legacy remains, with a lot of small or even abandoned towns roughly every 30 miles or so along the old railroad rights-of-way.

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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2022, 06:29:22 PM »
A lot of the early locomotives needed to refuel/rewater every 30 miles or so. That meant that at least a small station was needed at those points, and it was natural for towns to grow up around those places, if there wasn't one there already. That legacy remains, with a lot of small or even abandoned towns roughly every 30 miles or so along the old railroad rights-of-way.

Yes, railroads created many towns. Railroads also had a lot more branch lines and grain loading places to serve farm needs. Farmers had to haul their products to town, to the railroad, by horse drawn wagons.  Since 1900, total railroad mileage has been greatly reduced.  Before the automobiles, most people had to walk to town from their farms, or hitch a wagon and let the horse walk.  In many areas that meant a town happened about every 10 miles or even less. Any farther and farmers would have to stay overnight for a simple trip to a store.  .Something like 90% of Americans were farmers living on farms in 1900. 

In 1960 I worked summers driving a 2 ton truck loaded with grain from a field into a little town called Withrow, WA.  It had been a railroad loading location until the railroad spur line was abandoned in the early 1950s.  Local farmers still hauled their grain to Withrow in the 1960s, and the grain elevator used large trucks to haul grain to markets.  In this part of Washington State we have many abandoned grain elevators, often in abandoned towns, that once stood beside railroads.  One of the sections of the Palouse to Cascades trail where I did a lot of nude hiking goes past an abandoned grain elevator that once served nearby farms. 

Towns that still exist along the abandoned railroads are farther apart, and many don't have a hotel. 
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2022, 10:27:02 PM »
About that carnuding banter that Bob and I put you through... It occurred to me that after that trip across the USA and a couple a hundred drives drives across Arizona and bordering states, I probably have logged well over 10,000 miles nude with another cross country trip is gearing up.  There have been no problems, nor issues. It has just gotten easier.
Jbee
Hmmm.  Food for thought there, Jbee  We've got another heatwave (2 days!!) on the horizon so if I have any appropriate journeys, I'll give it another go or two!
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2022, 10:32:11 PM »
Was that all legal where you live, Bob? Washington state is such a patchwork of nude laws.

Washington used to have local laws against being naked until Seattle V. Johnson when the state court of appeals ruled that cities can't have a nudism law more restrictive than the state law.  Seattle had to pay a settlement to Johnson and modify it's local laws to comply with state law.   To be illegal under Seattle v. Johnson you have to be DOING something indecent or INTENDING to cause someone else to be alarmed or affronted.   All of which means that cities and state agencies in WA can't harass or arrest naked people minding our own business while naked.   It would be hard to argue that driving down the freeway is either indecent or intends to affront someone else.
That sounds very much like the UK law.  Rarely needs to be tested!  Not enough people want to be nude in public of it's not an organised event!! :)
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2022, 04:32:41 PM »
About that carnuding banter that Bob and I put you through... It occurred to me that after that trip across the USA and a couple a hundred drives drives across Arizona and bordering states, I probably have logged well over 10,000 miles nude with another cross country trip is gearing up.  There have been no problems, nor issues. It has just gotten easier.
Jbee
Hmmm.  Food for thought there, Jbee  We've got another heatwave (2 days!!) on the horizon so if I have any appropriate journeys, I'll give it another go or two!
John

One of the lessons I have learned over half a century of going naked is that it really doesn't matter if someone sees me naked.   When I'm driving naked across the USA, driving 25 miles to Walmart each way, bicycling on a public trail, hiking in a national forest, or just getting out of the car naked to put on some shorts before going into a store, it really doesn't matter if when I'm seen by other people.  A  decision to be naked is a decision to be seen naked, and sooner or later to be photographed naked. 

When I was a child I was taught fear of being seen naked.   That was taught at such a young age and so thoroughly it took me many years to unlearn that fear, and I still get twinges of it sometimes.  Rationally, when I decide to go naked in a car, on a bike, or on foot I am deciding that I will be seen by other people.  I'm sure Jbee has been seen by many people during his 10,000 miles of nude driving and stopping for gas, food, etc. 

That's okay.  Nothing bad has ever happened to me.  The big majority of people enjoy seeing other people.  If you have a chance, John, go for a drive naked.  We really have nothing to fear except fear itself. 

 
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2022, 09:28:08 AM »
"We really have nothing to fear except fear itself."

You you quotin' there Bob?  :D
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2022, 11:58:23 PM »
Nothing to fear except fear itself was a quote from a speech by FD Roosevelt wasn't it?
Bob, as always you give good counsel.  I shall do a naked ride soon before the weather deteriorates and hopefully enjoy it!
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Re: Coping with Unusually Hot Days.
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2022, 07:39:47 PM »
I thought that was Winston Churchill.
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