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Re: Nude in Public
« Reply #75 on: June 01, 2023, 04:41:39 PM »
Where he was is, as I know, very public, but pretty much everyone there knows him and is fine. the best bit of this is that the local police rescued him from a misinformed colleague, then lodged a complaint about said colleague.

Yes, ignorant cops can harass people.   Fortunately the ignorant cop was educated by those more knowledgeable and he was "unarrested" 
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Re: Nude in Public
« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2023, 10:57:37 PM »
Ignorance of the law and once again "what about the children" ignorance driving him or giving him an excuse/justification.

Very ballsy to be in public. Ignorance that in an urban area there would be eventually at least one ignorant ass amongst so many people.

Much to do, six officers getting paid, about nothing. The ignorant arse copper should have to pay for the expense of the ruckus that he created.

I wish something like that had any potential to happen around here, or within a 1000 miles of here. Maybe one of these days.
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« Reply #77 on: June 02, 2023, 03:50:31 PM »
Ignorance of the law and once again "what about the children" ignorance driving him or giving him an excuse/justification.

Very ballsy to be in public. Ignorance that in an urban area there would be eventually at least one ignorant ass amongst so many people.
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Re: Nude in Public
« Reply #78 on: June 04, 2023, 04:16:45 PM »


Police rule by fear and violence, not by law.

I've heard that accusation levelled against US police often, but it's less the case here in the UK. We have this notion of "policing by consent", ie they police us because we let them, and oin the whole that's how it works. We do get the bad 'uns, we get the bullies and the corrupt ones, and lately we've had a rash of downright law-breakers in uniform, but the picture is usually a lot better than it's painted - let's face it, only bad news makes headlines, no one sold a newspaper or a TV show with the headline "police did their job properly and politely".
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« Reply #79 on: June 04, 2023, 06:53:09 PM »
I remember visiting London in the mid-60's. The street police were unarmed, strolling, seemed to keep some sense of order. I remember thinking about how that could be. It has to be by consent of a pretty reasonable respectful population.

We didn't visit any place but tourist downtown. No, rough areas, nothing tough, poorer. I wondered how that policing would work out of where we were, other than calm suburban and rural areas.

I returned to France, where I was wrongly accused of a crime. The contrast from the US Army police and the Gendarme who treated me as if I was guilty until proven innocent made a strong impression on me.

When we returned to a system in USA with, at the time and place, a judicially upright system by consent, I was proud and happy to be American with a constitution, a Bill of Rights.

Then, The later 60's opened my awareness to inequities. Then, I saw repression, spying FBI, political interference, brutality, entity, and more, even murder. Over the years, there has been a constant erosion of rights and militarization of the police, bullying official procedures, escalation toward totalitarianism and fascism. I read of similar erosion over where you are and have often wondered what has happened to the unarmed bobby.

Police procedures are control by intimidation these days. Police are wearing black, jack boot uniforms and looking like cold dangerous machines. The reasonable, protect and serve cops are disappearing quickly. You want to avoid police. They are isolated and often sticking with their own reinforcing these pig behaviors. Many are cynical and frustrated.

Very wrong direction there.

When you see a naked guy beaten at a concert, you know it is out of whack, but then that's way the unusual and "others" have often been treated through American history.
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Re: Nude in Public
« Reply #80 on: June 05, 2023, 10:38:46 PM »

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/diners-left-outraged-appalled-naked-8495639

Public dining. Ignore the headline and the bit of the story based on a tripadvisor entry and read the bit where the other diners and the pub were OK with it
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Re: Nude in Public
« Reply #81 on: June 06, 2023, 06:12:17 AM »
So-oh- a gun! Sounds like a wonderful place for a getaway.

We'd like to stroll freely like that. I take away that it is a holiday place. They were strolling many places over time and there was no complaining or obvious complaint before the pub and just a couple of individuals there.

I really like the management's attitude. More free rangers should give them their business and support.
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Re: Nude in Public
« Reply #82 on: June 06, 2023, 04:11:46 PM »
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"After all two naked people sitting in a corner of a pub having a beer and burger quickly becomes boring" from the article.

Sounds like most people in the pub either enjoyed the naked couple or got bored and went back to their own dinners.  .Nude really isn't a problem. 


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« Reply #83 on: June 06, 2023, 04:14:27 PM »
I really like the management's attitude. More free rangers should give them their business and support.
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Yes.  More nudists need to be seen in public until it becomes boring.  Nudists who hide on hidden beaches or behind fences are 1. ashamed of themselves, and 2.  making life more difficult for nudists. 
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« Reply #84 on: June 14, 2023, 09:03:05 PM »
You want nude in public:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/naturist-arrested-duty-cop-because-30117565
Where he was is, as I know, very public, but pretty much everyone there knows him and is fine. the best bit of this is that the local police rescued him from a misinformed colleague, then lodged a complaint about said colleague.
Yes indeed Peter S - it is heartwarming to know that the CPS guidance for police is being followed.  For our US chums, the area this man was naked in is part of Brighton and Hove which is a town where those of a more bohemian turn of mind tend to gravitate.  That is there are a lot of weirdos there amongst the people like Richard Collins who was simply slightly off the mainstream but by no means a weirdo. (Don't ask me for the definition of a weirdo!!).
In the case of the couple naked in a pub in Burnham on Sea it is also very heartening to see that a couple can be nude in very public and unusual circumstances for naturism and broadly speaking go about their business unmolested.  Full marks to the pub for being inclusive.
We are currently having a little heatwave in the UK so I do hope more people are pushing the nudity barriers all over the country.
I think this publicity pushes us on a tiny notch towards the freedom to be naked where we like.
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« Reply #85 on: June 15, 2023, 01:07:52 PM »
Nuduke - the Mirror article says Richard Collins' location was Hastings, which is actually 30 miles east of Brighton & Hove. Hastings does also have something of an "alternative" reputation though.

Meanwhile, as Cumbria goes into drought mode, with wildfires caused by idiots with barbecues, traffic jams caused by idiots "parking" in stupid places, and rivers drying up, it's been warm enough this week for me to be onto my third consecutive day without having put a stitch on - talk about making hay while the sun shines! Mrs F has had some naked time in the back yard but is more concerned about being seen than I am. We're hardly visible from anywhere anyway, and I'm pretty confident nobody's looking for the few seconds I might be visible. I'm not walking down the street nude though.

I might be tempted to push the envelope a bit if I go to the beach on my own later, while she's at orchestra....

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« Reply #86 on: June 15, 2023, 01:09:26 PM »
That last post worked after I took a sentence out - must have been something in there that the algorithm didin't like.

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« Reply #87 on: June 15, 2023, 05:53:01 PM »
That last post worked after I took a sentence out - must have been something in there that the algorithm didin't like.

Test message;  I wrote a post about cold weather here.  I got the same "you do not have permission to access this resource.  403 error"

Trying again. 

Well this one worked.  Very strange.
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« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2023, 05:04:34 PM »
https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/cheshire-man-says-hes-made-27128550

More on the couple who dined naked at a pub in Burnham on Sea.
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Re: Nude in Public
« Reply #89 on: June 19, 2023, 08:40:04 PM »
We were talking at a workshop about blow-back reactions from the conservative anti-nude. The potential bandwagon possibles in the current political trends for politicians to use us as a target to get money and support from there right wing base. ANRR's political arm is concerned that if you push too hard you get negative effects.

We also discussed "radical" actions in Seattle where they would do a drop and walk naked for a few minutes before the police came, then move on. It apparently was able to change public opinion there. Te police do nothing.

In the Jacuzzi, some of us discussed how uppity gays, began to come out, took action and within ten years had gotten rights and law and public opinion changed.

If the laws were not here, we could do actions like this. I'm happy to hear of and see articles like this and how it is turning out in England. Please, keep them coming. These people are making incremental changes in public opinion. They are getting a backlash from a clear vocal minority. In large areas of USA there would be similar results.

Our Democratic governor just vetoed an anti-nudity (what about the kids) law that was passed up to her by the right-wing machine and instigated by a national entity that manufactures bills to distribute to state politicians. It isn't about nudity. It is about saying and doing outrageous things to get power and money from the Republican base. They use fear and lies t stir up nothing and then collect money when it looks like they have actually done something, an illusion.

They are coming after our  body freedoms, now. These politicians are not about freedoms. They are about wealth manipulating masses with fear to get power and make more money for a few super wealthy.
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