Cothing Optional is Good Enough?

[nuduke]

I often smile to myself at the lengths some men go to to hide their genitals and buttocks in the men's changing room at my leisure centre.  I think I have mentioned it before but it's still amusing.  Equally interesting are those who, like me, have no fear or inhibition about being naked in the changing room.  They tend to be older and/or better endowed by way of gentleman's accoutrements (big dick!).  The well endowed folk don't stay naked long but just enough to allow the causal observer (me in this case!) to realise the scale of their endowment!  Older men just get on with it, naked being the most convenient mode of getting to the showers or getting dried off and ready for clothing.
I have a routine.  I do an hour's yoga then a circuit of the gym for 45-50minutes then a swim for 25-20minutes after which I go straight to the shower, disrobe, wash and, carrying my swimming trunks, proceed to the changing room naked and stay naked till I am well and truly dry before donning clothes to exit.  It's interesting to see how many variants of cover up people have invented, which I will not bore you with.  However, on the other side of the spectrum, guys in their 20's and those with very well developed muscular physiques tent to be the most shy about revealing their waist to thigh zones!  I feel for them.  I am much more comfortable than they, struggling to undress or dress whilst still a bit damp, all the time keeping their knackers out of sight!!
John

[Greenbare Woods]

Yes, John, that whole thing is new since I grew up.  Our schools had big open showers we all shared.   Our public pool had the same.   

[F.BareSoul]

There are still enough others thinking like us that we might find them in our own neighborhood as I did.

[Yorksmark]

I often smile to myself at the lengths some men go to to hide their genitals and buttocks in the men's changing room at my leisure centre. ...

Funny isn't it.. the current generation seem more hung up than my grandparents generation..

My parents were in the swinging 60s and that mindset affected my own I think..

[F.BareSoul]

I often smile to myself at the lengths some men go to to hide their genitals and buttocks in the men's changing room at my leisure centre. ...

Funny isn't it.. the current generation seem more hung up than my grandparents generation..

My parents were in the swinging 60s and that mindset affected my own I think..

It does swing, I think. Naturism in a previous decade or more was really growing and it was seen with travel destinations. Then more recently taboos grew much more, think of the children mentality, and image of nudity where children are included being excluded as many more think necessary. The harm is mostly imagined. Still while some sexuality is involved with online communication with images I perceive more people will willingly share their nude images in places, a swing back the other way. Only great effort for it from more of us might take us out beyond the swings to more meaningful goals.

[jbeegoode]

People won't put images of their naked children out anymore. Someone will accuse them of creating shame, violating the kids, not allowing the kids have a say, exploiting the kids, which is all a part of the social sickness about the human body perpetuates this and is...crazy.
Then there is concern that someone, a stranger,  may use the images in a sexual manner, which is this repression creates the bizarre behavior in the first place.
Then was then, childhood. Now as adults, children can make choices that parents used to make for them. Being seen as an innocent naked child is only seeing an innocent naked child, cute, something that happened a lifetime ago. My cute naked baby pics have never affected anyone negatively. I can't imaging anyone with their hand out, demanding possession of the pics and memories that their parents took and cherish. 

Yeah, making such a big deal of something that ain't such a big deal happens. "Naked me! Oh what a big deal!!" Nude is just another appropriate outfit.
Jbee

[Yorksmark]

Didn't the kid on the Nirvana album cover try to sue for use of his naked image !

It's a mad world

[Greenbare Woods]

People won't put images of their naked children out anymore.
Jbee

Unfortunately in many parts of the USA there are extreme "child porn" laws that attack any image of a naked child.  Nudist parents and others get prosecuted.   Meanwhile a bunch of the politicians are pedophiles or support pedophiles.   It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World.

[jbeegoode]

I'd even go so far as to say that it's a mad,mad.mad,mad world.
Jbee

[Peter S]

Didn't the kid on the Nirvana album cover try to sue for use of his naked image !

He did, The case was thrown out, but in December a court allowed him to have a second go at it; last heard of awaiting a trial date

[jbeegoode]

The object is to find truth and in so justice. So many different opinions and rulings make the sense of right and wrong nebulous. It is feels insecure, unjust. It is often predicated by appointments based on political motivation, until the supreme court, which is supposed to be ultimate unbiased interpretation of the Bill of Rights. These days, they are exposed as politicians in robes. It makes respect for the law a tough thing to swallow and where does that leave us?

Fifty states, fifty sets of statutes, thousands of interpretations exist in concern of nudity and body freedom and few with no more justification than a fools whim.
Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

All bans on human nudity are government enforcement of Religion.  Control religions call our bodies "indecent" and demand we obey their mandates to hid our "sins."  Governments enforce their religious zealotry. 

[jbeegoode]

Governments do that. But not all supporters are religious, often people just hung up by outlandish mores. The origins of this clothing thing are certainly religious dictates mixed with control strategies, of mostly women by men. So, yup, in effect, here.
In other places blatantly.
Politicians in democracies exploit religion and stick us with these laws.
Jbee

[jbeegoode]

Bad news at the clothing optional hot springs. The kitchen has a new rule. Covering below the waste is mandatory. It was a political thing. Pawned off as sanitation, but it was caused by gymophobia.

Where does this BS end?

My only input before it got official was with my immediate group leader. After his inquiry, the edict came from top down with no input from nudes who populate the place.

I have been messing with my group leader. He will place a wrap around towel at the kitchen door for me on a hook. I'll take that a step further and place a small Velcro attaching garment wrap there instead. BARE minimum. I'll also see about placing a message on the cloth about body shame in protest.

Damnit! Friggin autocrats!

Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

Bad news at the clothing optional hot springs. The kitchen has a new rule. Covering below the waste is mandatory. It was a political thing. Pawned off as sanitation, but it was caused by gymophobia.
Jbee

What hot springs is that Jbee?   

Mandatory clothed in the kitchen is stupid.   More body phobia instead of "body acceptance."