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WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« on: January 08, 2024, 09:27:16 AM »
We do more than walk when out camping. A body needs more. I've been bringing fitness home.

https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2024/01/08/wmr-pt-9-exercise-bring-it-home/#more-15026

Seems that retired, I can focus on my new job, living long and healthy. So far, I haven't fired myself.
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2024, 04:09:53 PM »
I also spend a lot of my summer cutting firewood, and Its getting burned now.   What's behind your "Pee Here Now" sign?   Is that your sauna or a place to pee? 




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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2024, 11:05:33 PM »
You seem to be getting lots of excercise, Jbee.  I think you score well on the exercise spectrum if you believe the UK public health system advice on the subject:  https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/exercise-guidelines/physical-activity-guidelines-older-adults/


I don't really do as much as I should.  I go to a leisure club twice a week and do about 2.5 hours mixture of mild through to vigorous activity and between those sessions I try to do half an hour of weights and strengthening exercise at home.  Every day doing loads of the light exercise e.g. getting up to make a cup of tea and generally moving around the home (I probably go upstairs a dozen times a day), walking at a slow pace
cleaning and dusting, vacuuming and other housework.  But I don't do a great deal of the middle sort of exercise e.g. running or aerobics.  My dropped metatarsal has meant I have had to seriously curtail hiking.
I have never been able to do pull-ups.  Even as a teenager, I never had the upper body strength.  Maybe I should learn from you, Jbee and approach it slowly, not caring if I can't do it properly.
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2024, 10:39:12 PM »
I also spend a lot of my summer cutting firewood, and Its getting burned now.   What's behind your "Pee Here Now" sign?   Is that your sauna or a place to pee? 





There is a composting toilet in a small room behind the sign. We're experimenting with Bokashi and wood ash. It is a sweat tradition and a part of our 501c3 mandate.
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2024, 10:35:39 PM »
I got distracted and now notice that I didn't respond to you, Nuduke, as intended.

Those government guidelines that you present seem kind of self defeating to me. My thinking is this, an idea that jumped out at me while reading "Born to Run."
It goes like this: There's a Tarahumara guy in the Copper Canyon that runs 25 miles to town and back and doesn't think much of it. That's just how he goes to town. He is 85 years old. Why and how can he do this "feat" so easily at that age. The answer is, NOBODY EVER TOLD HIM THAT HE COULDN'T!
Age is very much up in one's head. Such thinking needs some mental exercise to wash it out. Most oldsters just don't believe. or believe that they are old. They can certainly do lots more.

Age can be calculated in many different ways. I may be 26 in one way, but 76 in another. We have to address every aspect, but over all, I'm doing things that will make me around a healthy 42. That's my job, now. I'm retired from the other business and have time to take up this new occupation of gathering new habits. I don't think that I have anything better to do, so it is supposed to be priority.

Being habitually physically lazy, easily distracted and lulled into old habits the new job is a challenge. Getting up to heavy breathing at least once a day, and better still two or three times, is a challenge. I still associate that with discomfort, instead of health and normal exertion. Stationary bike that I sit down on and read to not get bored is there, but getting in the daily habit is another thing. Doing sprints in the yard is curious and I'm having better luck with it. Long term jogging on flat unnatural surfaces gets to my knees and ankles. I don't think that it is healthy over time.

Getting different exercise in, alternating the days is very complex and I lack discipline about that kind of scheduling. Still, I keep up my attempts, keep a tell tale diary of it, at least and someday, I'll meet many of those goals.

So, anyway, we CAN do this, achieve and live much longer and better.Life is a precious gift and it is foolish to squander it, even a day of it, or diminish its potential, or limit expected quality of it by ingrained belief. Government suggestions are based upon statistical studies of people who generally share a common expectation and lifestyle, which includes a ton of self defeating behaviors and thinking.
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2024, 07:21:19 PM »
An object in motion tends to stay in motion, an object at rest tends to stay at rest. I agree with DF's mother.

I am not one for 'exercise'. The kind that fills up these big box recreation centers. I was never big on physical education at grade school either. I scored poorly on the PE exams that counted pushups, pull ups, etc. But was able to bike further, out run, out surf and out play most other kids in my neighborhood. At least in my own view. When Sharon called yesterday morning, she asked if I was busy. I exclaimed that I was cleaning the toilet. She laughed and said it was a stupid question. I am always busy.

I don't bicycle often, but the various rides I participate in regularly give me confidence that my stamina is better than most for my age group. I agree that physical exertion is rewarding. I believe that anything we put energy into affects it. The best example is my coffee routine when camping. I use a manual grinder while putting a great deal of attention to the process. I am confident that it makes the end product more satisfying. Working with wood and other earthly materials delivers similar satisfaction. I never use charcoal or starter fluid. The thought turns my stomach.

I find many things to provide exertion necessary to remain physically healthy around the property. I feel like a caged cat when weather or other circumstances force me inside for extended periods of time. I love to read, meditate, and other sedintary activities, but get anxious after a short while. Hyperactive? Maybe.

I also exagerate activities as JBee describes to bend and stretch muscles and limbs. I ache and struggle to get upright at times, but use that as a signal to do more stretching and bending. While in the work-a-day world, I would take the stairs at the office and hotels. Coworkers often developed elaborate explanations for this, often involving a 'fear of elevators'. They, the ones that would drive airconditioned and exhaust belching autos to their big box exercise facilities, couldn't understand why I preferred a real staircase to the stairclimber.

So, keep moving and keep thinking, because your body and brain are terrible things to waist. And while you're at it Stay Safe and Stay Bare!

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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2024, 02:22:14 AM »
Ah-men!  ;)
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2024, 05:06:48 PM »
Quite so, gentlemen and I might add, everything in moderation!  That's my motto anyway.
John

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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2024, 11:26:57 PM »
EVERYTHING in moderation!!!OMG!!!

Gluttony, peace, high grade dark chocolate, continuous nudity everywhere, sunny days, sex, music, love and more. There is a place and time under the sun and some things have places and times that can range considerably more....

I night add that moderation is a relatively defined term. AND I might add another motto to the mix, "If it feels good do it!" "If it feels right, do it." AND who said, "Stop limiting yourself"?

There is a great deal of potent biology, biological effect and change from belief.

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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2024, 03:53:57 PM »
EVERYTHING in moderation!!!OMG!!!
Jbee

When I was younger we sometimes opined, "Moderation is good as long as you don't do it to excess.    Excess is good as long as you do it in moderation." 

That pretty well works for most things.
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2024, 08:55:09 PM »
Ah Bob, the firm and beautiful wisdom as it applies to a nebulous degree of youth, or age.! A dictate clear as mud that makes perfect sense.  ;) I like that one.

I'm up for and/or my body is up for, more one day, or moment than the next. We can accomplish more, live a longer and quality life and health than we do, every one of us. Belief is key. Yet care must be taken by awareness, listening in a miriade of ways, to our bodies and not overdo it to a point of damage. We must believe that we can and will accomplish, as with most any goal.  We must plan and adjust accordingly, and at some point turn it over to...something, our preferential concept of fate.

I Ching: "Perseverance furthers."

My research has concluded that I am not predisposed to conventional concepts of aging. I am getting younger in many ways. Some patterns are slowing down and even reversing.  Still haven't figured out why some of the hair on top of my head has slowly migrated into my ears though.... ???
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2024, 11:30:07 PM »
I Ching: "Perseverance furthers."

We do an annual I Ching reading every Midwinter to help making plans for the coming year. Over the past 20 years we have found them to be amazingly accurate.

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My research has concluded that I am not predisposed to conventional concepts of aging. I am getting younger in many ways. Some patterns are slowing down and even reversing.  Still haven't figured out why some of the hair on top of my head has slowly migrated into my ears though.... ??? Jbee

As much as I would like to postpone getting old, I find that my strength and energy is not what it was 20 years ago.  My health is still good, but I tire more quickly. 
Enjoy the ride while we can.


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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2024, 11:46:09 PM »
I don't know if it was age, or that I just got old enough to realize that the 40 hour work week is BS and a waste of life. :D

I tire quicker and recover slower. I have to work harder to maintain my health. The question is whether I am accepting, believing, treating it as being out of shape, or aging. I find realistically that I am more out of shape than aged. The effort to correct and maintain it is greater and that is the age part. Good news for me is finding that I can feel and do much more and better than I realized and I'm actually not stuck with it.
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Re: WMR Pt.9: Exercise, Bring It Home
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2024, 02:49:58 PM »
Interesting points there Bob and Jbee,
Nicely summed up
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I tire quicker and recover slower. I have to work harder to maintain my health.

I too fall into that category but having only just over a year ago taken up more vigorous exercise, I look at it as catching up on missed opportunity and necessity to keep fit over many years past. I think I feel a little better for it.  Exercise never really gives me a buzz, I do it out of the feeling that it does contribute to better health in older age.  I do muscle building low impact weight training to try and counterbalance natural muscle loss with age (recommended by my physiotherapist).  It hasn't noticeably increased my ability to do anything!.....Except lift weights :D
John