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« Reply #180 on: August 23, 2016, 10:50:27 AM »
think positive,
 they could have just been checking that you wernt in any signs of distress,   if they have never come accross a naturist their first thoughts on seeing a naked person in the wilds could have been a dumped victim of crime.     

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« Reply #181 on: August 23, 2016, 04:03:27 PM »
I agree with Bob. It is probably they wanted to just see what they thought they had seen. In the process they got to see a guy on his own land minding his business.

You know, taking out the trash. And, well, he happened to be naked. Big deal.
Over time they will realize it IS no big deal and nothing will come of it.

It is one more way to normalize normal nudity.

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« Reply #182 on: August 24, 2016, 03:14:35 AM »
There are plenty of photos of my rear out there in the ether. I've actually found one or two along the way.
I stand by my assessment of the LEO encounter based on previous events where I received a citation for public nuisance while skinny-dipping in an abandoned park and being drug though a week long investigation of my moral standing where several neighbors were questioned about my naked gardening activities in the privacy of my privacy fenced backyard. No one was challenged on their peeking Tom actions.
I am certain that there are files in various departments dealing with my proclivity to run around my own personal property in a decidedly natural state.

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« Reply #183 on: August 24, 2016, 02:01:19 PM »
I stand by my assessment of the LEO encounter based on previous events where I received a citation for public nuisance while skinny-dipping in an abandoned park and being drug though a week long investigation of my moral standing where several neighbors were questioned about my naked gardening activities in the privacy of my privacy fenced backyard. No one was challenged on their peeking Tom actions.


The public nuisance is often the "Law" enforcement who's job seems to be that of taking away freedom and ruling by fear and violence.

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« Reply #184 on: August 24, 2016, 04:07:44 PM »
Just to balance the argument again, not all violence is by Police Officers. See here for unarmed officers killed whilst trying to keep the peace. I actually saw one of these brave men run over. In the case of the last entry hundreds, nay thousands of ordinary citizens turned out to the funeral to support the Police. It may be bad in the US but it ain't over here!

We honour these Officers at the National Memorial Arboretum in "The Beat". See here
Some of the pictures show a rather bare landscape. It was new then and now is a much more mature site. This wonderful place includes memorials to the armed forces and mony non-military organisations. Well worth a visit if you are in the UK Midlands.


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« Reply #185 on: August 24, 2016, 09:30:32 PM »
Sixteen in the first 12 years of this century. Certainly not to make the matter trivial, but ONLY 16 and most had nothing to do with getting shot!?!

Then, there is a significant number that collapsed during a pursuit, or encounter. Is that diet, or an indication of the stress of the job? A bunch collapsed between the years 1905 to 1909.

Under “see also” the American deaths are listed. Each year the list is as long as the long total history of the UK.
What could the difference be? Americans are more violent? Drug laws creating crime and violence? Americans have more guns? Bad attitudes, and behaviors and isolated from the community reciprocates bad attitudes from the people?  Greater economic disparities, opportunity and less social net having effect over time? Poor training, overzealousness making risky behavior?

 Too bad the American rates are not tallied over all of the years. I’ll bet there is a spike beginning around 1970. I’d like to have the comparative number of civilians shot by police in the same period.

I wonder how many officers have been injured or seen death, or civilians (see we get the better designation) seen death, or injury, because somebody wasn’t wearing clothes? All of those crimes and violence and who gets caught up in the circus, like real damage has actually been done?
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« Reply #186 on: August 24, 2016, 11:18:26 PM »
I don't want to comment on American gun laws because I know these things are viewed very differently each side of the pond.  But I have to say that if someone's got a gun and is prepared to use it then they're far more likely to shoot someone or get shot in retaliation than if neither side had  a gun in the first place.

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« Reply #187 on: August 25, 2016, 12:01:42 AM »
While the police are always whining and sniveling about those who were killed on the job (mostly from car crashes), their jobs are far less hazardous than most real men's jobs.  In the US, our trash collectors suffer 3x more on-the-job deaths per capita than police, but trash collectors NEVER hold big parades, tie up traffic, and have pipers morn their "roll of honor" for the good hardworking men who died on their job.  They hold a funeral, and go back to work.  They have REAL honest work to do.   Same with farmers, fishermen, miners, truckers, construction workers, loggers, etc. etc. etc.  Only the cops are always whining and sniveling on about their few who crashed a car on the way to get doughnuts.  Cry us a river. 
 
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« Reply #188 on: August 25, 2016, 12:25:16 AM »
With such bitterness against a whole group of people its just not worth arguing the point any further

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« Reply #189 on: August 25, 2016, 12:37:34 AM »
All I can add to this thread is: it's lucky for us there isn't such a thing as the Off-Topic Police.

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« Reply #190 on: August 25, 2016, 02:18:05 AM »
All I can say is, if someone "catches" me out and about naked, I sincerely hope its a drug dealer, or garbage collector, or farm worker.  Anyone but a cop.  Only the cop would likely try to find reason to mess up my life.
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« Reply #191 on: August 25, 2016, 08:27:19 AM »
Wandering even further off topic - there was one canal lock in London which was frequented by druggies and which many people regarded with real trepidation.
However there was never any trouble at that location as the dealers took care that nothing happened which would require the police to be called.
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« Reply #192 on: August 25, 2016, 12:49:58 PM »
http://fox8.com/2016/08/24/elyria-woman-arrested-for-sitting-naked-on-her-front-porch/

Appears that in Cleveland the drug dealers get ignored but sitting out naked is worthy of arrest.
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« Reply #193 on: August 25, 2016, 03:03:46 PM »
it wasn't drug dealers who arrested and caged Stephen Gough for 10 years of his life for the legal activity of walking naked. 

Or here is today's story about extreme police violence that is done to citizens every day in the US.  Beaten and tazered for illegal crossing a street.  http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-police-savagely-taser-mentally-ill-man-beating-batons-jaywalking/    But they are "honorable" men.  Just ask them.
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« Reply #194 on: August 25, 2016, 03:42:14 PM »
THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM THE OFF-TOPIC POLICE: COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP. WE HAVE YOU ALL SURROUNDED.