Encounters...what to do?

[Greenbare Woods]

Much like some Christian preachers pick through the Bible to find sins that are not there. I find it funny how these people come out of the woodwork whenever anything related to nudity is in the news. For example; the few times there was ever a discussion on the local level of making a nude beach legal. I'm surprised that they are not telling their followers not to let teens have cell phones for they might send nude pictures. Or maybe they are and I don't know it. The "moral majority" that is actually the "vocal minority"!

There is too much MONEY in cell phones for the media to listen to preachers objections.   There is no MONEY allowing people to avoid buying clothing at the beach or anywhere else.   In the end its all about the money.

Bob

[nudewalker]

There is too much MONEY in cell phones for the media to listen to preachers objections.   There is no MONEY allowing people to avoid buying clothing at the beach or anywhere else.   In the end its all about the money.

Bob



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Amen brother! It is, has been and always will be about the money. Although my research (asking my teenage niece) has revealed that some fundamental preachers in town have warned parents of the evils of cell phones very few teens are without. At one time I did research on the economics of the bathing suit market and it was astounding. Which brings me to another point; the economic impact that nude beaches have on tourism. Why haven't more local governments jumped on this cash cow? Ah, I forgot the "vocal minority".

[nuduke]

There is no MONEY allowing people to avoid buying clothing at the beach or anywhere else.   In the end its all about the money.

Now THERE is a fascinating thing to speculate.  What if naturism/nudism required loads of expensive specialist equipment like golf, camping, climbing, fishing or cycling, for instance.  If being naked was an occupation which needed national chains of equipment suppliers and achieved a multi-$billion revenue?  Naturism/nudism would probably be quite as socially acceptable and sought after by participants as little league, the scouts, the London Marathon or the US Open!!!

Money talks alright and it often shouts down political, religious, legal and social voices.  But naturism in nature costs little, needs little (although jbee & df's camping kit may be an exception!!) and says little.  So it gets little by way of attention and acceptance because no corporations need to support it to profit from it.

Discuss....

John

[JOhnGw]

Thee is a side effect of naturism being effectively free of charge and that is a reluctance of naturists to pay the going rate for any naturist facilities that do exist.
An example of this is the number of complaints from naturists about the high cost of Clover Spa Hotel when it first opened, in spite of the charges being much the same or less than those of comparable textile facilities.

[Davie]

I think that's true of any group. Every group I belong to moans about what are really sensible prices for what's on offer.

Davie 

[jbeegoode]

REI has a floor just d for clothes. Big 5 sells a camo outfit to every hunter fisher. People spend as much on clothing as equipment obviously. It gets cold out there, and with bugs, I sometimes need clothing. The ultralight stuff can get pricey. Sporting goods are a huge business. By the way Nuduke, I have spent around a thousand dollars through years to have a variety of options from car camping in the bigtop, to ultralight minimalism, that will last many years. I compare what I have experienced and enjoyed to lounging in a resort for a week or less. I bought the 4x4 used. Next year, I'll get into suggesting ultralight backpacking equipment over at my website.

Back to my point, everything is better nude. So, it still fills seats to offer the same trip for nudists as it does textiles. Nudism as recreation IS a billion dollar industry today. The money is there and the impact has seen nude recreation in all aspects, from rafting the Grand Canyon, to hiking, to resorts, cruises, bus tours, airline flights, high end Mira Vista, to condo packages. Miami caught on to the free beach scene. it draws tourists.
Jbee

[nudewalker]

I remember my first trip to an REI store. Managed to get into quite the conversation with one of the sales women about the minimalist idea of hiking naked. If y misses had not shown up I may have been shown the door as the old pervert but she got convinced that what I said was serious and I had spousal approval. As much as the minimal approach speaks volumes to me life is a compromise so to insure wedded bliss the RV will remain the base of free range trips.

Nudism may be a billion dollar industry but in many ways it still can be cost prohibitive. Miami has caught on as has Fort Pierce lately offering a nude beach. It also has been said that which ever Great Lakes state sanctions a nude beach first will reap millions in tourism money. I will not hold my breath waiting for that to happen but will wait and hope.

Speaking of nude beaches; another trip to Walgreens revealed that the store clerk is interested in finding a place to skinny dip and sun nude. We exchanged e-mails and I told her of some places that are reached by kayak or hiking. We'll be in touch next spring.

[JOhnGw]

I had an interesting encounter this morning while putting the rubbish and recycling out naked.
A car came along from the right while I was opening the gate so I stood close to the right hand pillar as usual so that my nakedness was out of line-of-sight to the driver as they passed.

However the car stopped at my gate and a lady got and out holding a sheet of paper and came over to ask the way to a local farm. Unfortunately she had very little English and it took me some time to get her to understand the simple instructions but eventually she did seem to understand and I was able to finish the job in peace.
There was no problem apart from the language barrier.

[nudewalker]

JOhnGw, I am beginning to come to the conclusion that we have been conditioned to think the worst case senerio when any encounters occur when in fact the opposite may occur. With the language barrier she may be from an area where nudity is more acceptable but I will add that most of my most recent encounters have been positive. Just as we try to convince others of the positive aspects of nudity perhaps we need to convince ourselves that not everyone would be disapproving.

[nuduke]

Let's face it, the Lady had Hobson's Choice as to who to ask!   But she stuck with the conversation so good for her!
John

[jbeegoode]

DF and I got nailed down trapped up in the Bloody Basin area. We weighed our options and decided to go stealth, then not so, but technically legal, then it just took its own course.

Read about it here: https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2016/04/08/perry-mesa-a-trip-report/
Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

I was out down my driveway close to the road (maybe 100 feet) when I heard a traffic coming.  I wasn't sure what to do so I decided just to stand there in my driveway and perhaps extend my growing neighborhood reputation as "that naked guy."   

Pretty soon a large white SUV came into view.  The driver saw me and waved.  Waving is friendly country etiquette in these parts.  I waved back.  He drove on.  I continued on and had a nice walk.   Life is good. 

[jbeegoode]

A friend of 20 years bought the property next to mine as investment recently. Today, I went out to work on the new sauna. I got all the way inside before I noticed my helper talking to someone out side. I had no coverup in my backyard. I looked around the corner and it was the old friend. "Oh, hi Tim. I hope that you don't mind..." as I walked to them holding a work glove over my crotch and confessing nudity.

I explained the sweat, as I dropped glove and continued. I put on pants and we went through his new property discussing privacy, options, concerns and potentials.

Well, we are outed and he knows that when he shows the property that there is potential to see nudes next door.

At one point he asked me if I knew that there were laws about being nude in public, like I might not know. Cute. I briefly explained a reasonable expectation of privacy to him.
Jbee

[eyesup]

At one point he asked me if I knew that there were laws about being nude in public, like I might not know. Cute. I briefly explained a reasonable expectation of privacy to him.

He's merely expecting the universe to reflect his philosophy!    What's wrong with that?

Actually, it's probably him just thinking of only the downside of having to explain nudists or naturists next door to a potential buyer. Giving him good talking points to that benefit might get you some new neighbors that are sympatico.

Duane

[JOhnGw]

Did the previous owners of the plot know you were a nudist? These days, in the UK they would have had to disclose the fact to any potential buyer and there would be a case for legal action if it could be shown that they knew and did not disclose the fact.