Naturist links

[jbeegoode]

Healthy young people, pretty girls is akin to glamour in advertising. In this case naturism is the product, so maybe so many babes isn't such a bad thing, when the pics are accompanied by plenty of honest naturist philosophy and propaganda? After all there is plenty of porn, mild to hardcore, out there rather than this.
Jbee

[John P]

I'm sure the people who run Tumblr would deny that their site is intended for large-scale violation of copyright, but of course that's what the users fill it with. Endless anonymous images, stolen over and over again from one page to another. You can be curious about where a photo was taken, who's in it and what the circumstances were, but you'll never find out. No thief will ever tell you what he stole and from whom!

So Tumblr is a pretty rotten system, and it's not much surprise that so much of its material is trash. There's plenty of porn indeed, sometimes honest and sometimes not. At least if it's called porn, the viewer isn't fooling himself about what he wants! But when it's delivered by fake naturist websites, what's happening is a presentation of naked women for men who'd like to believe that they aren't consuming pornography. It's nothing to do with naturism, and if anyone searching for "naturism" finds these sites (and they are legion!) they'll think exactly what we try to deny, that it's all about sex.

I thought I might find pages on Tumblr with nude couples, to try and prove that there are naturist images which aren't wall to wall babes. So:
http://nudecouples.tumblr.com/archive? Nope, they're all young women in pairs and groups.
http://nudistsnudistcouples.tumblr.com/archive? Same.
But here are some that look OK on a quick glance:
http://graymark52.tumblr.com/archive
http://nudegroup.tumblr.com/archive
http://kenuur.tumblr.com/archive

So, there is some variety out there. I'd much prefer that the locations and photographers were identified, and nothing was stolen off other sites, but it does seem to be true that naturists aren't always women in pictures and men in real life.

[jbeegoode]

These examples are filled with people posing. There is little action and expression other than the polite photo smile. It is just naked people. The sensuality of the experience and human relationship to the natural world is rarely depicted. The one with people "doing stuff" seemed more okay, but just images.

What I liked about this Zen site is that it is not one of these. Someone stands in a wave, or on a mountain top, and I can relate to the splash on the naked skin, or the air all over, the chill. Many expressions are captured that are genuine reactions to the experience.This is expression and some of it could be called photographic art. There are also comments and quips, signs that I might want to printout and post, poems and essays on naturist experiences. There are more than 600 pages of this stuff. Someone put sincere effort into the site, not just a collection of naked bodies from 2013 to recently.

I figure that if we grabbed a naturist porn freak and used tooth picks to keep his eyes open, strapped him down and made him watch that Zen site (a la Clockwork Orange), that he would turn into a wholesome naturist.

Yea, I have looked for the "whose photo" going back a few times, and images are taken from one site to the other to the other, again and again. I found a pic of my friend's and DF's butts standing at a book sale at a naturist resort online. I wanted to trace the provider. I knew who had done this and wanted more proof of the violation. No way, it goes on and on. There are tons of websites.

One reason we don't put our faces on our website (actually an after-thought, byproduct, it IS another reason) is the other connotation the unscrupulous might use to exploit the photo. One day I'll end that hide, in the meantime, I consciously try to make the photos there reflect the naturist moment of experience and hard to exploit. I don't know if that is the plan, but Stuart and Carla do a good job of posting photos that are hard to recognize as porn and destroy the intent of posting, ie naturism, humanity and art. On the other hand, whose eyes are looking at the same image will have different reactions. I posted a copyright spiel on my site, but....
Jbee

[nudewalker]

It reminds me of visiting the Andy Worhol Museum. After the pop art sections there was a more darker place; highlighted by a copper sheet signed by celeberties who urinated on it. I will admit to signing my autograph in the snow but that is another story from long ago. There were comments made about various exhibits to which my brother in law quipped, "Made you think didn't it?". That is all we can ask, that the seed be planted, that it becomes mainstream and that nudism becomes accepted. Even if there is no conversion at least a degree of toleration.

[stuart]

I'm sure the people who run Tumblr would deny that their site is intended for large-scale violation of copyright, but of course that's what the users fill it with.

This is one of the things that really annoys me about these galleries. None of them create their own content, they just rip off other people's. When I hear that one of our photos is on a tumblr site I always have it removed.

[JOhnGw]

I'm sure the people who run Tumblr would deny that their site is intended for large-scale violation of copyright, but of course that's what the users fill it with.

This is one of the things that really annoys me about these galleries. None of them create their own content, they just rip off other people's. When I hear that one of our photos is on a tumblr site I always have it removed.

Quite right too.

[jbeegoode]

There are so many. How do you ever hear about violations?
Jbee

[nuduke]

I'm sorry to be disagreeing with a fellow naturist, but I can't let this pass.

I posted my similar opinion to John P's in the other topic with thenakedtao mentioned.

I can see Jbee's point about the 'recreational' nature of the site and others' comments about it being on the whole a positive portrayal of naturism but it still feels a bit voyeuristic and 'posed'. 

John

[Peter S]

It seems to be the norm on the Tumblr sites that they all feed off each other for their content, but presumably the content starts life somewhere. Some of the sites are purely of the pretty girl variety, so I don't think they qualify as naturist - they're just voyeuristic. Some try and largely succeed to be naturist and have a mix of males and females and 'normal' physiology (look in the mirror for an example); sometimes even these have pretty young girls creeping in, but sometimes a pretty young girl might actually be a card-carrying naturist as well. We're not all middle aged white men!!

Peter

[eyesup]

We're not all middle aged white men!!

Thank God!

Duane

[nuduke]

I was adding a couple of boring utilitarian links to my favourites / bookmarks today and idly happened on my saved bookmark to Paul Midnightrider's website.
Now either I'm more geriatric than I think or Paul has updated and massively extended his site since I last looked quite a time ago.
I think he has, by the way.  My confidence in my faculties is not that low!!

Anyway, it's a fantastic treasure trove of naturist stuff and a whole lot higher quality of presentation than most.
I now know why Paul posts only occasionally here - he's been too busy with his own website!

I recommend a look if you haven't already got it bookmarked!

http://www.mynaturism.net.tf/

John

[Peter S]

Back to the Tumbler sites - http://wnbr2016.tumblr.com/ this one is very straightforward if you want to see how the naked bike ride went in the UK

peter

[John P]

Back to the Tumbler sites - http://wnbr2016.tumblr.com/ this one is very straightforward if you want to see how the naked bike ride went in the UK

peter

No no no! Peter (and everyone) please don't keep making me get so upset!

You're sending us to YET ANOTHER Internet board which gives nudism a bad name and makes us worry about each others' motivations. Babes, babes and more babes--is that what we're interested in? This is stuff we need to denounce (I hereby do so) and not keep presenting to each other as if it's all perfectly fine and realistic and will help the cause of body freedom. When there's a nudist event and photographers go there to get images of the women, even if the women are in a small minority as they usually are, then spread them all over the Internet, they're giving a pretty strong message to women that they should expect to be on display. If we actually think naturism is for everyone, we'll do our best to present it differently.

As it happens, I went to one of the assembly points for yesterday's WNBR in London, and I took a lot of pictures of (O the shock!) mostly men, because those are the people who (O the shock, all over again!) were there. I'll put together a posting for this site as soon as I can.

[eyesup]

I understand your point, JohnP. We can certainly discuss this type of coverage, on which I would be opposed to any kind of restriction, all day yet if I want to see a photo record I can go look it up.

But positive of negative aspects of public nudity for everyone demonstrated by the ride could be debated solely on the the predominance of males present. Apparently the prevailing belief is that women don't participate at these kind of events.

I've never been to one, even the one held here yesterday, so I am unfamiliar with the levels of participation by women. What is the general attitude by those present to the lopsided representation? Or did anyone really care one way or the other?

I know others here have participated in rides elsewhere. The only one I recall mentioning it, is Bob.

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

But positive of negative aspects of public nudity for everyone demonstrated by the ride could be debated solely on the the predominance of males present. Apparently the prevailing belief is that women don't participate at these kind of events.
Duane

In general men tend to participate more in anything outgoing.  Women tend to stay home or hang out with a few friends.  I'm glad to see that there were numerous women in the London WNBR.