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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2015, 06:15:31 PM »
Well, well, Nudewalker, swinging at the local fabric store!  Get it on, man! R
eally funny typo I presume?
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2015, 06:22:35 PM »
Oops! Yep, a typo but not a bad idea if I were not happily married. Besides, most of the other students are young enough to be my granddaughter!
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2015, 03:54:24 AM »
A bit stronger one at the top would be in order.  And if full side split is ok for the application that one might be enough.    With the right strength I suspect it would work just fine.   Although it wouldn't be quite as secure fastener as a big button unless quite a strong one were used,  wouldn't want it so strong it'd risk pinching,  or be hard to pull apart.   Just strong enough that any ordinary activity or pulls won't make em fall off.   Magnets come in infinite array of sizes and strengths.  I've obtained quite a variety,  from little button neodymiums to big ones that have to be handled very cautiously.  (finger smashers)   Got a whole box full of ceramic magnets for pennies each for a  project.   They're cheap.     I like the idea.   Tis true it will interfere with compass  readings.  If a compass is needed would have to use it some distance from the clothing.   Of course any magnet can be used to tell directions,  just need to know which side is north pole,  hang it on a thread,  or float it on a chip in water.   It'll line up with the field created by the current flowing in the surface of the earth.   If the magnet messes up the compass just rub the right pole on the needle and it'll restore it.   Use the wrong pole and the north needle will point south.

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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2015, 11:51:12 AM »
Yes you could do that but when you are tired its too easy to forget if you've messed it up. Following the white rather than the red could lead you into desperate trouble. Also depending where you are in the world the needle will point to magnetic north but maps are orientated to true or grid north. In the UK its about 2 degs in the centre of the country and within the margin of error. Compasses are life saving devices. If mine is messed up, which it was using a magnetic clip for the tube of a water bladder it gets thrown away. (Well actually I've kept it for working out route cards where the actual polarity is not needed.)

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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2015, 05:02:23 PM »
Bare feet and quick change clothing.

I have observed that bare feet make all kinds of clothing easier and much quicker to get on and off.  Numerous times in the past I would be trying to quickly put on some shorts after getting out of my car, for example, and my shoe would catch somewhere.  I often ended up stumbling and sometimes stepping on the shorts rather than a foot sliding effortlessly through.  The hurrier I tried to go the more it didn't work the first time.  Its worse for long pants.  Shoe sticks half way down and pant leg has to be wiggled this way and that.  At home we always put our pants on first and then our shoes.  It doesn't work well out in nature with shoes on trying to put on pants in a hurry.

One of the advantages of bare feet is that shorts and pant quickly and effortlessly slide on.  It may make the whole "hiking skirt" question irrelevant.  Just a thought.

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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2015, 06:27:37 PM »
Depends on the pants. The less the ratio of the waist and the thigh to the size of the foot, the easier the pant goes over the foot, or shoe. Thin waist, foot grab. More girth, more foot room.

Stretchy materials will snag more that say a nice stiff denim.

A toe nail length will snag more, perspiration on the foot can be a factor.

I have ended up with sand and debris in my pants, if I don’t take the time to wipe my feet off first off. This is sometimes a waist & thigh/foot ratio thing, again.

The new styles of tight legs with baggy sag crotches from the skater influence just don’t make the cut, period.

If one is going with the more practical quick change, then baggy is best. If pants are that baggy, then might as well remove the crotch and go for a skirt of some sort…what’s the point…other than fashion conformity.
 
This leaves a skirt with a perhaps flexible waist, or pant, for a quick change. One must step into them and pull up, just like pants. The other choice is wrap around. These two present advantages in different situations. The step into pants or shirt may be easier when sitting or standing, but not when there is a steering wheel in the way. With legs partially out of the car, sitting, they go up the legs and then slip on the rest of the way in a second, as one is in the process of standing up, or just lifting butt off of the seat. Standing in the middle of a trail, presumably with both hands free, then there is a balancing act, an end to stride, and getting the feet through the waist, or legs. Doing this one leg at a time doubles the timing in the quick change, and there is still that waist to foot size ratio to contend with.

The wrap is held with one hand and must be found and caught by the other hand and pulled around. In a pinch, it can be nervous fumbling or it may get caught on a bag, water bottle or backpack. It requires no break in stride. The top and bottom have to be differentiated, when grabbing from behind to pull around the waist and when pulling it out to make ready for the process of re-robbing. When sitting in a vehicle, a wrap skirt (I generalize. This could be a kilt, etc.) is difficult to get under a butt, without lifting and it tends to lose its form in time. The waistband won’t always line up. I have even had them end up nearly backwards. Here a skirt arrangement other than a wrap is more practical. Such an arrangement removes the one leg at a time difficulty.

On the trail and canuding have different challenges and different solutions.  I have climbed into my truck in the kilt and sat on it, then unwrapping it, letting it lie on either side of me. It messes with the pleats, and must be readjusted after exiting. On a longer haul, I just leave pants to the side and sit on a towel. If I need to, I can just place the bundle over my crotch, or put the pants on if stopped. The border patrol stops are predictable. I wrap something around ahead of time. On the trail, I prefer the wrap. It works better than stepping into pants and I use it for other purposes, like a sit down towel, and sun shade, or a shoulder protection from straps and sun. The more material to wrap around the easier it is to find the other end, grip it and adjust it. Velcro adjusts to my waist better than set in place snaps.

Gotta get out there and experiment to find out what works best in the situation, or practice the process a few time to be efficient.

Other thoughts:
I'd rather be standing holding my pants in front of my crotch naked than be bouncing around on one foot with my foot caught, or my schlong stuck in a zipper. ;D
I still feel uncomfortable in a kilt, let alone a skirt in public. I think that I'd feel more comfortable wearing nothing, if given the choice, but that's just me, now. As time goes on....
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2015, 10:50:24 PM »
Quote from: jbee
The new styles of tight legs with baggy sag crotches
That describes my body not my pants!  :D :D :D !!
 
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #82 on: November 17, 2015, 01:12:29 AM »
HeeHaw!
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Ouch! Goode...
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Out loud...
Whew....
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2016, 08:48:33 PM »
Just ordered some polyester mesh material, flesh/tan color,  going the risky route and getting it with larger holes, but also got some fine stretch mesh of light weight that's used for liner in case the holes are too much.  (same color)   I may make the liner removable to adjust for more or less risky situations.    Next time the weather turns bad I can stay inside and try for a kilt and shorts with velcro and magnet fasteners.     Maybe I'll call em speed shorts.     I've always wanted a quick coverup that didn't need to slide on feet first.   I can sit on em when doing tractor work,   easy and quick to pull over and fasten without getting off the seat when someone is headed my way.  Probably couldn't get any quicker to put on,  or take off.     just wrap and  it sticks,   or grab and yank. 

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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #84 on: January 07, 2016, 07:13:13 AM »
I don't know what your tractor seat surface is made of, but I found out q with a quick surprise that my reasonably average length kilt rises up, when I sit down. I think that it was at a Subway Sandwich shop in Wilcox. I jumped right up from that air-conditioner cooled vinyl seat. The sun baked hot seats could be dangerous.

I'd like to see pictures of these set ups, when you get there.
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2016, 02:39:56 PM »
I don't know what your tractor seat surface is made of, but I found out q with a quick surprise that my reasonably average length kilt rises up, when I sit down. I think that it was at a Subway Sandwich shop in Wilcox. I jumped right up from that air-conditioner cooled vinyl seat. The sun baked hot seats could be dangerous.

I'd like to see pictures of these set ups, when you get there.
Jbee

I remember those shocks when I started wearing kilts too! It was my daughter that told her mom that "Dad needs lessons in how to sit like a lady". Observe women guests on talk shows and they always put their hands behind the skirt to keep it from riding up when they sit. Mine was a harsh lesson also; a plastic chair that had set in the sun all day.

With the holidays and the fact we are in Florida any experimentation with any garments will have to wait for the spring thaw. I'll have to see what Ruben develops and either copy or borrow from his ideas.
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #86 on: January 08, 2016, 06:27:42 AM »
Are you now in Florida enjoying sun stimulated endorphin opiates, smilin' like a junkie who just got a fix?
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #87 on: January 08, 2016, 11:43:34 AM »
the two tractors I have are metal seated.  hot in the sun.   The upholstery disappeared long ago.  One due to a horse ripping it up with the previous owner and the other disintegrated both padding and metal, and I replaced it with an old metal implement seat.    So in warm weather I throw something over them to sit on.  Been using an old white quilt that's half torn up.      And on the tractor it's not too much of a concern what it looks like from the front, since that direction is blocked by the console/fuel tank/engine.   Anyone coming up will be seeing from the side.  One is small with seat at top of wheel level,  the larger one has wheels above seat level so view is restricted to front/side angle.       I think the kilt will be more useful in standing positions anyway though,   like for hiking,   field work hoeing weeds and such things.      Having a very convenient cover that's fast and easy will make me feel better about taking it off more often,  even when I know someone will be coming.  Knowing I can have it on in a seconds time with one easy move without getting off the seat.   Or anywhere without stepping into it.    And if someone comments on the kilt being womanish,  I would remind them that the skirt is a very old clothing tradition predating pants by a long time,  and it hung on in Scotland even to the present time.   And I do have at least a little Scottish in me.      As for pictures,  I was thinking of that already and wondering how I could manage it.  Might have to find me a camera that can take time delay pictures.  And video perhaps.   I never bothered much with cameras,  most of the time I figure I'd take my pictures with my eyes and store then on a brain cell. I did buy a really cheap one once to take a few pictures to put on the web,  but it was very low resolution,  sometimes hard to get good pictures.  Too cheap. 

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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #88 on: January 08, 2016, 04:07:36 PM »
Ruben, I had even thought of such a cover as a way to sunbathe nude in a secluded area if beach. If anyone approaches just do a quick wrap and with the shorts guys wear here who could tell the difference. From what I have been able to gather here in the short time so far is the summer like weather during the Christmas holidays brought out some latent nudists who were promptly ticketed for exposure. Nothing heard since after the new year but the weather hasn't been as cooperative. Speaking of which Jbee; to quote a local hockey announcer from closer to home, "He's smiling like a butchers dog!". So yes the sunshine has done it's healing and theraputic natural release of endorphins!
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Re: Hiking skirt (and other clothes quick to change out of)
« Reply #89 on: January 08, 2016, 06:52:49 PM »
There is the need of solution as to what to do with it when not active. Leaving it sitting around, it can get further away and less effective as quick cover. It needs to be close at hand.

Part of the time, my wrap skirt is snapped around my shoulders to make sure that they don't get too much sun. Part of the time it is rolled up and cushioning my shoulder from the strap on my bag, ready to be pulled down flipped open and wrapped around my waste. Part of the time, it just sits under my butt, shielding it from a hot, or jagged rock surface, or maybe some abrasive sand that needs to stay of of me...or anything I don't really want to sit on. It has gone over, but not yet under my cap sheik style, and has wiped my brow. Many Native Americans kept a turban-like pile on their heads of cotton cloth, although I haven't investigated turbans, but just might. I don't know what use these turbans were, except decoration. I have yet to dunk it in cool water, but it does lay around my neck like a shroud, your weights and flimsy material, may make it good for that. As minor as these arrangements are, and actually handy to have, I do enjoy just walking away from it with the need for absolutely nothing.
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