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A walk in the desert!
« on: June 25, 2015, 01:37:35 AM »
It's 114°F outside, and I'm not even willing to do yardwork. The temps are hitting 100° by 9:00 am and above 105° by 12:00 noon or 1:00. So I decided to spend time writing about the hike I did a couple weeks ago.

My excursions have been scarce as of late and now that summer is officially here I am likely to continue that trend. When I go hiking I like to be wrapping up the day by the time the temp hits 90-95°F. The landscape simply radiates heat and it's literally like an oven. Unlike Jbee's adventures, I have no shade unless I find a canyon or cliff that casts a shadow. So I try to be headed back to the truck by 10:00 or 11:00 am, depending on the temp.

I wanted to get to the trailhead before 8:00 am and managed to arrive at about 7:45 so I was on the trail by 7:50. The parking area is along the road and it's about a 300 yd walk before you reach a point on the trail where you can't be seen from the road. From there, it's 2 miles to the spot I was headed for.

As soon as I am away from the highway, I am back in my natural hiking suit. I know I have a moderately strenuous walk so I set the pace and hold that. The trail led into a main wash and from there it was a vertical gain of 300' over about a 3/4 mile walk. Not hard but it gets you breathing pretty good.

The spot is a large outcropping of red sandstone. There was an open area in the center that enabled me to wander about on a level area and climb up to get a view to the valley below.

As walked around to the south of the formation I kept hearing a "knocking" sound that I couldn't pinpoint. It was like something was falling to the ground. Just before I turned into the rocks I stopped to rest and get a drink and while standing there decided to pull out my camera. I had set my pack down on the ground, pulled out my camera and small pocket tripod when I heard that "noise" again. I looked up towards another smaller grouping of sandstone and saw about 4 or 5 bighorn sheep on the top.

The knocking was the males playing with each other and banging their horns together. By the time I had my camera up to snap a picture, they had moved. I am always surprised at how quickly such a large animl can move. Especially that many.

I headed into the rocks between two large formations and as I moved in I heard a loud noise of an animal scrambling to get away. There were several small shelters eroded into the stone walls and I assumed it was a jackrabbit. It was a large male bighorn. I had rousted him out of his mid-morning reverie in one of the larger holes in the wall.

He ran away from where I was and leapt up onto a sloping wall of sandstone to get a better view of me. I was lifting my camera up to get a "great shot" of him standing on a rock slope of at least 45 deg., maybe more, when he saw my movement and took off. I got a shot of him running across the desert but missed the better shot. He ran over to where the other group of bighorn were and didn't come back.

I have seen evidence of them out there many times, but never actually seen them. I shall have to try getting there early again to see if maybe they wait around till it warms up before they leave the valley floor. They are amazing to watch, expecially when they are on the rocks and moving. Later, while moving around inside the formation, I scared up a large jackrabbit also. I was rousting everyone out of bed today.

I puttered around for an hour or so, then headed back to the highway. The trusty thermometer in the truck reported it was about 92°F deg. when I got back to my truck around 11:30 am. It was going to be a warm one and I didn't want to be out there when it did. I was out walking and/or relaxing for about 4 hrs.

I have some pictures, but Karla said it would work better if we post them elsewhere and then create a link. I don't have an account with any of those sites so maybe I'll take a look at that later.

Duane

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Re: A walk in the desert!
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 09:37:40 AM »
Sounds like a great walk Duane,

I'm not sure about your late starts though; I've usually been home an hour by the time you arrived :D

I love walking at the start of the day when the lazy folks are still in bed (and out of my way) and the various night time critters are thinking about going to bed as the other animals get up and start looking for breakfast. It is a great time for spotting wildlife.

Thanks for sharing your walk with us.

Have fun,


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Re: A walk in the desert!
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 01:10:41 PM »
Great report! I love encountering large animals on hikes, the deer in the highlands of Scotland are especially impressive when you get up close to them. They're usually quite friendly, but you always have to be careful!

I have some pictures, but Karla said it would work better if we post them elsewhere and then create a link. I don't have an account with any of those sites so maybe I'll take a look at that later.

No account needed at http://tinypic.com/. Just upload and post the link they give you.

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Re: A walk in the desert!
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 04:46:00 PM »

I have some pictures, but Karla said it would work better if we post them elsewhere and then create a link. I don't have an account with any of those sites so maybe I'll take a look at that later.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 06:57:40 PM »
I’m salivating, wide eyed! Dang! There have been so many people that I’ve bumped into that were looking for BIG HORN SHEEP. I have seen whole groups out on the trails with binoculars. People look years for them and there you are sitting amongst them in that coveted place of observation. Dang, you were close enough to hear their movements!?! What great sport AND you were able to do it naked to boot! What a coup!

The bighorn on Pusch Ridge disappeared when they built a resort and golf course in their vicinity. They placed a bronze monument of one in the center of the entry circle. I notice that the resorts and subdivisions tend to do things like name streets after the animals that died when they destroyed their habitat. There are huge cartoonish horn toads, tortoise and snakes made of rusty iron along the road where tract houses now sit in Oro Valley, next door.

The forest service is attempting to reintroduce them to the Catalina Mountains (Pusch Ridge). The resort is in bankruptcy and the town took over the golf course. There was a problem with a happy mountain lion for a while, eating them. On ‘Ol Ragged Top out west of here, the feds spent one million dollars on a water tank facility for a group of them using helicopters, so as not to make a road to their front door.  They are endangered in most of their habitats in Arizona. It is good that they are so elusive and skittish. They are scared away from water resources and lower elevation dinner hangouts and must stay in less abundant areas too much of the time, especially during seasonal times of hardship.

I take it that it is difficult to photograph much more than their butts.

I might imagine their thoughts, “What the heck kind of fur-less two legged was that?”
“I’m not waiting around long enough to find out.”
 “Uh oh, he’s going for his gun!”
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Re: A walk in the desert!
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 01:26:07 AM »
I have seen bighorn all over this area. This is the 1st time I've seen them at this site. I've seen droppings and other evidence, so I've always known they are about, but this was the 1st time I actually saw them in Pinto Valley. Unfortunately I didn't see the two sparring partners, but I did hear them.

I've seen them in other places and am always amazed at how fast they move and how it seems they have special magnets on their feet to climb these rock faces. I was really disappointed I missed that shot, it would have been a good one. They are so dang fast.

And you are right about the butt shot. Another couple seconds and that would have been all I saw. As it was I was able to get a side view that is less than desirable, as he was moving pretty fast at the time.

When I figure out this picture thing I'll post them.

Duane

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 07:03:58 AM »
Looking forward to that shot. Content often overrides quality of photography. Your red rock features are always a pleasure.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 03:44:11 PM »
That has to be one of the highlights in your memory book Duane! There are a few animals that are hard to get up close and personal with and the close proximity you achieved must have been something to behold. I have found that I am able to get closer to deer when I am naked than clothed. Same goes with some other woodland creatures as my theory is they don't pick up on unusual scents such as laundry detergent. Anyway as we muddle through the picture posting phase of this journey I anticipate seeing your photos!
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 05:14:39 PM »
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That has to be one of the highlights in your memory book Duane! There are a few animals that are hard to get up close and personal with and the close proximity you achieved must have been something to behold.

I would be in The Red Rocks out west of town while I was attempting to learn rock climbing, and we would occasionally see a small herd of bighorn come down the canyon to the spring located near the parking area.

I once saw about 6 or 7 approaching slowly looking for any sign they needed to flee. We were walking along a ledge up on a cliff about 60-80 ft. up and we stopped to watch them. They stopped and waited for a second then something spooked them and they were off.

Gone in just a few seconds. This was back before digital cameras were cheap and you can imagine how long it takes to get a film camera up, on, focused, zoomed in and hoping that I had left the film advanced and ready for exposure.

Yeah, I missed that one too. But I was walking along a ledge to do a climb and did not have the camera at the ready. But the image is still in my head.

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I have found that I am able to get closer to deer when I am naked than clothed. Same goes with some other woodland creatures as my theory is they don't pick up on unusual scents such as laundry detergent. Anyway as we muddle through the picture posting phase of this journey I anticipate seeing your photos!

This reminds me of what Pete said about all the info on cover-ups being lost. There was a discussion once on the SNS site about this very thing and how we all had a comment about seeing wildlife while naked.  The different reactions we all had we enjoyed speculating about, because there seems to be a difference between being naked and clothed.

Sadly, it's gone too.

Duane

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Re: A walk in the desert!
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2015, 05:58:42 PM »
In my post at the beginning of this thread, I described the hike where these pictures were taken. I didn't post my pictures at the time as the discussion about available space on the forum for graphics was going on. A few members here use websites for organizing their photos for posts here and I did some experimenting so now I'll attempt to show the pictures from Pinto Valley.
You could re-read the post and then look at the photos.

The 1st three pictures are from previous hikes and show you some of the landscape visible from just about anywhere in the valley, unless you happen to be down in the wash. The wash is deep enough that the desert floor is, at minimum, about 10-12 ft. above the bottom. In some areas it is higher than that.


#1 - Up on the sandstone bluff
This is a view from the east end of the valley looking west. The spot I am hiking to is the outcropping there at my left shoulder. This point is about 1.5 miles from the trail head and almost a mile to the outcropping.


#2 - In the desert above the wash
This is from a different spot near the previous picture. My destination is visible halfway between me and the edge of the picture, left of my hip.


#3 - West end looking east
This picture is from the opposite end of the valley. In photo #01, the spot where I am standing, is about 5.5 miles away at about the center of the long red sandstone feature just below the ridge left of center of the photo. That view is not the full length of the visible part of the valley. Just below the red sandstone you will see three large outcroppings of sandstone in the desert floor, from left to right as you move up the slope. My destination is the third, and largest, of the three.


#4 - Walking into the rocks
This picture was taken from the back of the formation looking west, near where the bighorn sheep "REFUSED" to stand still while I photographed him. He was standing stock still on that sloped rock face to the right about 4-6 ft. above ground level. It is more than a 45º angle and he just stood there in much the same way and ease I would have stood on a flat surface.

Just to the right of the center of the photo you see a large white feature and right below it a smaller one. That is where I was when I took picture #3. From the trail head on that end of the valley to that point is about 3.5 miles.


#5 - On the trail (former jeep trail)
I am walking on the trail near the bottom of the wash. If you look at photo #2 just to the left of my knees to the left edge of the picture, you can see the eastern end of the wash as it narrows down. It is visible as a darker zigzag line from there to the right. That is the top of the wash at the desert floor. The depth varies from 10 ft. to some spots of 20 ft. deep.


#6 - Backside
From the back of the outcrop looking west at the sandstone ridge where photos #1 & #2 were taken.


#7 - Inside the rock formation
From inside the formation at the north wall looking north. This area was relatively flat and mostly covered with sand. There was bighorn and jackrabbit scat scattered all over. Step carefully.


#8 - Cool shades
Sheltered rocks. The only kind of serious shade available out there. This photo is from a previous hike to the formation about 550 yds. north and slightly east of where I was in photo #7.


#9 - Sheepish behavior
The bighorn, shortly after he bolted. I was desperately trying to keep him in frame and in focus. 1 out of 2 ain't bad.


#10 - Herd of sheep? Yeah!
The bighorn standing out front of his buds. Those are the ones I heard knocking heads earlier. They're about 150 yds. away. It's a little hazy because I had zoomed in on the group. The jackrabbit I spooked was too fast for me to get a shot of it. He had to have been about 12-18 in. long.

These four screen shots of the Pinto Valley give an idea of what the geology looks like out there. Each one progressively closer and with markers of an approximate location of a couple of the pictures.


Image #1
Lake Mead with Pinto valley located. It's about 40 miles from where I live.
Las Vegas is west of the lake and off the left side of the image.


Image #2
Pinto valley runs diagonally up left to right. From the center, a large wash called "Boulder Wash" runs a little over 2 miles south to Lake Mead.


Image #3
This shows the hike, about 2.2 miles. The wash is just to the right of the grey hills on the left of the picture.


Image #4
Close up of the sandstone formation. I was in the larger shaded area where the route ends. That cleft in the rocks is where the bighorn was napping. He took off to the west and circled around to the smaller formation to the east where all the other sheep were.

The trail through this valley is 10.5 miles pt.to.pt. I've always wanted to get someone to hike it with me. We would have to park a vehicle at one end and hike out to it, then drive back to the other car. Or turn around and hike the 10.5 miles back out to the car. 21 miles in a day is not out of the ordinary but it would be a whole day of hiking.

West to east, it's a 536 ft. gain then a 822 ft. descent then a 561 ft. gain and back down 98 ft. to the trail head along a 10.5 mile trail. I also would like to do the 2.2 mile walk down to the lake and camp there. From the west TH it's 8.5 miles to the lake and from the east TH it's 6.5 miles to the lake.

It's a shorter hike and smaller climb out from the eastern access. Still, it would be a 6.5 mile one way hike and a 1000 ft. climb back out with all that camping gear. That's a backpacking trip, not just a day hike.

What I love so much about this site is it is remote and quiet. Aircraft are the only man made sounds and I have only seen two other people out there in all the times I've been there.

Duane
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Re: A walk in the desert!
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2015, 07:01:45 PM »
Ewe la la! I can taste the air, smell the creosote and and hear the...

How about a kayak from Bonelli Landing, or a rental boat? That looks to be about a five mile cross, but the water would be plentiful and then camped at the lake, there would be less water to lug around during the hike. Two miles to Pinto and then access to the heart of it during a couple of day hikes with less equipment to mess with? A couple of morning excursions and then lounging on the beach, or in the water during the afternoon and evening?
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2015, 07:46:12 PM »
Duane,

That is wonderful. The pictures add so much to my understanding of the landscape and I love the satellite shots to give the whole valley context.

Thank you for that.

Have fun,


Ian.

PS Don't apologise for the big horn pics; wildlife shots are far harder than the professionals make them look.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2015, 10:33:27 PM »
Apart from making me jealous of your opportunities, you have also made me realise just how lucky I was to catch a glimpse of a couple of bighorn from the Canadian Rocky Mountaineer train.
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2015, 05:36:52 AM »
I have considered that Jbee, but with using a friends ski boat.

Actually I like the kayak idea better than the ski boat one. It's quieter and you get a good work out, plus a base camp at the lake with forays into Pinto Valley would be a great way to spend time exploring it. Bonelli's Landing is about 65 miles from here and you have to drive across the desert to get to it, but I've been on that road several times.

There are some petroglyphs in the central part of the valley that I've never been to and a large boulder with a smooth face called "Signature Rock". It has graffiti that goes all the way back to the 1920's.

I shall think about this.

Duane

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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2015, 05:41:18 AM »
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. . . I love the satellite shots to give the whole valley context.
Thanks. That was what I hoped for when I did that. Glad it was helpful. I love that place and hope it never gets crowded or busy. It always makes me stop and just wonder at the variety of geology out there.

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. . wildlife shots are far harder than the professionals make them look.
I know what you mean. Only rarely has a wildlife shot of mine come close to what I imagined when I took it. I've seen articles about those guys. They lay in one spot for 4.87 days with a $4,500 wide angle telephoto lens and wait for the target to walk by. I don't have those kind of resources.

In spite of the iffy quality of some of the pictures I think the report turned out pretty good, thanks to Ian's great instructions on how to do these links.

Duane