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A week in Menorca
« on: June 27, 2015, 06:35:15 PM »
The following posts were originally written for the SecretNaturistSociety forum, now sadly gone :(. However, I promised to repost them here so here goes... (To add some contect for those who don't have the history of TSNS, Carole is my wife and is not a naturist, but I keep hoping and gently educating her :) )

Friday 1 May

We needed to leave home at about 9AM to get to the airport without any rush or hassle so I had time to walk the dogs before they had breakfast and I had to take them to the friend who had agreed (bravely?) to have them while we were away. The walk was a little shorter than usual as I had to wake Carole first (read make her a cup of tea) and could not afford to be late. Just a normal morning walk, brightened up by the bluebells which were in full flower. Did not see anyone during the 75 minutes I was out. Air temperature was a balmy 5C (41F).

We landed at Mahon late afternoon (18:40 local time) so by the time we had transferred to Son Bou, found our apartment and unpacked it was time to eat. Certainly no time to go naked exploring; that would have to wait.



Map of the area, the little smiley faces mark caches I have found. Pictures in this post may be clicked for a larger image.

Saturday 2 May

We decided to have a quiet day looking around Son Bou to get our bearings and maybe a sit on the beach. Nothing too exciting, but I had hopes that I could introduce Carole to the western (naturist) end of the beach. After a morning meeting with the local reps for our travel agents (always good for a few pointers at places to eat) we moseyed down to the far end of town (ten minutes walk) and arranged a hire car for a few days from Monday before wandering past one of the beach bars to the beach itself.

We settled on the beach not far from the bar. No evidence of anyone naked there and the general advice on Trip Advisor seemed to recommend going past the river before losing the clothing, so I decided to bide my time. After an hour, I started to get bored so I suggested a walk along the beach, towards Santo Tomas, so that I could collect a geocache on the 15th anniversary of geocaching starting. As we passed the river across the sand (river is a bit too grand for the small stream, but that’s how the locals refer to it) I noticed a couple of kids, apparently naked, poking around in the rocks a couple of hundred yards ahead. As we got closer their mother appeared, also naked, and was happily helping them to find things of interest. As we passed them I could see other naked folks spaced out on the largely deserted beach and was waiting for a reaction from Carole. It never came. I had stayed lightly dressed to avoid putting any pressure on Carole and pushing her into a reaction before she had seen for herself that naked was OK here.



Once I’d found the cache (it is hidden in a spot in the picture above), we continued along the coast path (Cami de Cavalls) to Santo Tomas where a large beer had my name on it. Carole also ordered beer and then started to eye up the food menu. I developed a feeling that the holiday might not be as cheap as I’d hoped. Oh well, have another beer and stop worrying…

The Cami de Cavalls east of Santo Tomas is fairly rough initially, but was also empty when we’d walked in. I was wondering whether I’d be able to get naked for the walk back.

By the time we walked back, there were folks all over the path. I decided not to push the issue. However, after a short distance the path looked empty and I had a good long view ahead and behind. Carole was walking slightly ahead of me, so I stripped off and dumped my clothes into the bag I was carrying. Carole did not look around so there I was walking naked along the coastal path waiting for her to turn around and give me a lecture, but she never did. After five minutes or so I asked her if she’d mind me stripping off and she just said “no problem” and carried on. Result! I was now walking naked with my wife and her agreement. Woo Hoo! It may not be DF style joining in, but it is a massive step forward.

We stopped for a while and just enjoyed the sunshine. Carole stripped to her bikini and me still comfortably naked. By the time we returned to the textile end of the beach, where I dressed, I had been naked for 97 minutes.


To be continued...
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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2015, 06:38:09 PM »
Sunday 3 May

Another quiet day on the beach was the plan and, after a lazy start with a long naked breakfast in the apartment, we wandered down to the beach, where Carole wanted a sunbed. That meant staying at the developed end of the beach so going naked was not going to be an option. However, that was OK as, after I'd done my duty applying sun cream on her back, I was given permission to go and look for a couple of nearby geocaches (the smiley faces on the map show locations of the caches I found).  I wandered off to the start point for “Son Bou Panda”, a multi cache. This meant finding one location, collecting information and moving on to a second location calculated from the data. At the second spot the process is repeated to find the third and final location.  No problem, apart from heading off in completely the wrong direction for location 2... Oh well, I was on the Cami de Cavalls heading out of town to the east so there could be a chance of an SN walk. It soon became apparent that secret naturism was not an option; the path was busy with a mixture of local and tourist groups, walking in both directions, oh well, another time. Once I realised I was on the wrong track, I branched off onto a path that looked hopeful for descending the cliffs to the second spot. This path was quiet and my clothes soon found themselves in my bag.

The path took me past some caves that had been walled up to make them habitable. None seemed to be occupied and I stayed naked (though alert) as I passed them descending slowly towards the water’s edge. After a couple of hundred yards I found a great view over the Basilica de Son Bou (a ruin dating back to the 5th / 6th century) with the beach behind it:



I wonder whether the people by the wall were trying to make out what I was wearing...

The path continued down to the rocky plateau just above sea level and I turned back towards the resort to find the second location (right by the Basilica) that would allow me to complete the calculations and find the cache. I decided to dress as I approached the Basilica, no sense in scaring the natives. About 20 yards after I dressed, I saw a family happily enjoying the small sheltered beach that you can see behind the basilica in the picture, naked; maybe I could have stayed skyclad a bit longer. Oh well, I noted the beach in case I could persuade Carole to come to this spot another day (it is always good to have reserve plans :D )

The cache data was quickly found and the location calculated. I was a couple of hundred feet away so stayed dressed while walking to the hide area. OK, the hint says it is under a rock... Great; that helps…not :(



It is just as well that the GPS co-ordinates were accurate; that would have been an awful lot of stones to look under. However, I found it pretty fast (about five minutes).



To give you an idea of scale, that tube is about an inch in diameter. Having found the cache, I set off back along the plateau again and back up the path past the caves. Once away from the pedestrian traffic by the sea I was quickly naked again to enjoy the warm sunlight on my skin. An air temperature of around 21C and a light breeze made for near perfect walking conditions as I headed out for the next cache, somewhere on top of the headland at the eastern side of Son Bou.



As I approached the main Cami de Cavalls I dressed, knowing how busy it had been earlier and, sure enough, there was still a steady flow of people on the trail. After about 200 yards the trail I wanted left the main Cami de Cavalls and the path was quieter. There were fresh footprints, but the number returning seemed to match the number going my way and I knew the path to be a dead end so figured I was OK to walk naturally.

The path was sandy with a few small stones and pebbles and would have felt good barefoot, however that would have meant carrying my shoes. It was simply less trouble to stay shod as I walked between high banks of grasses and scrubby bushes, enjoying the contrast between the warmth in the sun and the cool shade. The path gave some stunning views over the beach at Son Bou and on past San Tomas:



Among the tall grasses were some of these stunning purple flowers; this picture does not do them justice, but was the best I could manage with the relatively simple camera I was carrying.



I stopped to use a convenient rock as a camera support and grab a shot of a lesser spotted (hopefully anyway) Milfmog on route to the cache:



The cache was a quick find and once the log was signed and the cache replaced I headed back to the beach to join Carole. I retraced my route to the Cami de Cavalls, which had quietened down now, so I stayed naked for the short section until I turned off to head back to the beach plateau.



Before arriving, I had wondered whether renting a bicycle and tackling the Cami de Cavalls on that would be an option, this is one of the easier sections of the trail that I walked, so I rapidly scrapped that idea. (Although it may not look it in the picture, that is actually a fairly steep descent and would have been a pig to cycle up).

Back at the beach plateau I dressed just before the Basilica and then returned to Carole in time for lunch and a cold beer. (See, I’ve got this holiday business sussed :D )

We returned to the apartment in the late afternoon (I’d amused myself with a long naked swim and a little reading) and Carole announced that she was going to do her hair before we went out to dinner. That meant I had time to go and look for another nearby cache at Barranc de Son Boter, a short way to the north west of Son Bou. I had already discovered that Barranc is the local word for a ravine and from a distance the rocks looked to be worth a closer look.

It took about 15 minutes to get out of the resort then, as soon as I was away from overlooking homes and hotels, my clothing was back in my bag as I strolled happily along the Cami. Initially the Cami was a narrow track, obviously used by vehicles to get to and from a large farm house (not apparently occupied) and by people looking after the horses in fields alongside the trail. I covered up to pass the house (just in case) but saw no signs of life while I was there, although it is clearly in use.

As I approached the entrance to the ravine, the path I wanted left the main Cami and headed inland along the east side of the ravine. The path is very overgrown and hard to follow through the scrub but with care I was able to keep most of my skin. By now the wind had dropped and although the temperature had also fallen slightly it felt warmer with no air movement. The path continued out of the tree cover onto a flat grassy plain. Here I got my first good view of the rocks above me on the eastern side:



The rocks at the edge of the grass are around 12 feet high and the grasses were shoulder high on me. This made for a curious, unfamiliar walking experience. I have no idea what (if anything) lives in that grass but JB’s tales of Rattle snakes in his patch were very much in mind as I made a point of placing my feet a little more heavily than usual in the hopes that anything nasty that knew I was coming would rather run away than stand and fight.

The path continued along the wall of the ravine as the other ravine slowly got closer. About 200 yards short of the mapped location of the cache I stopped to take this picture looking back towards the sea. (Apologies for the poor quality; I was not carrying a camera so used an iPhone to take this panorama covering an angle of about 210 degrees.



I stopped to look for the cache, however the GPS was pointing to a spot on the far side of the stream, which could not be crossed at that point due to steep sides and dense brambly undergrowth. I continued a couple of hundred yards upstream to the stepping stones and then fought my way through chest high grasses and scrub back to the apparent cache hide.



No luck. Once again the GPS was trying to take me somewhere that made no sense, deep into brambles and inaccessible scrub. However, from this vantage point I could see the ruins of a previously inhabited cave in the ravine wall. I had already developed some scepticism about the accuracy of the cache co-ordinates so maybe…



I backtracked and had another look, including a wander around the ruin, still no luck finding the cache, but it had been worth the walk to look for it. I headed back to the apartment (still naked) to log a “DNF” :(

By the time I got back to Son Bou and had to dress, I had been naked and unseen for a further 95 minutes. Carole was still getting ready, so a quick shower and I was ready before she was. A most enjoyable day ended with a large G&T as we watched the sun set over the beach. I could get used to this pace of life…




To be continued…
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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2015, 06:41:18 PM »
Monday 4 May

We had hired a car for a few days in order to see the rest of the island and this was the day I collected it. The day was mostly spent touring the old capital but we also visited San Tomas and, more importantly, Binigaus beach which is generally accepted as a naturist beach. We did not stay very long as it was getting late, but I still managed just over an hour comfortably naked on the beach and in the water.

I would probably not bother to go back to Binigaus as it had nothing that Son Bou did not have and, quite frankly, I preferred Son Bou.

Tuesday 5 May

I woke early to the sound of bird song and snoring. Carole was dead to the world and (after a little more web research) it seemed like a good idea to try an early morning revisit to Barranc de Son Boter to look for the cache I had not found.

It was about 06:00 when I left the apartment, the whole resort still appeared to be asleep so I just walked the 100 yards or so to the car dressed as I had been in the flat (that is to say, not). I drove to the start of the Cami de Cavalls out of town to save myself fifteen minutes in areas where nudity would not feel right.  This time, knowing the farm house was unoccupied I was able to stay naked all the way to the cache site where a ten minutes search turned up the cache. (It had fallen from its hiding place and took a bit of finding in the undergrowth).  I had amended my route slightly to avoid the most heavily overgrown section of the path by walking along a field margin just outside the woods, this also had the benefit of keeping me in the sunshine, lovely.

Once I had found the cache I decided to explore the ruins a bit. They are not big and the ground level was a bit unstable and showed evidence of cattle being stabled there however a few minutes casting around the undergrowth turned up the stairs to the upper level, where I could not resist a photo or two.





Once my thirst for exploration was sated I headed back for breakfast. I was able to stay naked until about ten minutes short of the town when I dressed as I could hear a pick-up coming up the track. From that point I stayed dressed as there were others on the path walking or jogging. I had been naked for 98 minutes in the early morning sunshine; I could get used to these easy temperatures.

After a leisurely breakfast (no reaction from Carole to me not dressing after my shower) we set off to visit Cala Galdana, a very pretty cove a few miles west of where we were staying. The resort is far more developed than Son Bou but Carole wanted to sit on a different beach and I was very keen to have a look for a nearby “earth cache”, which despite being listed in October had not yet been logged. Could I really be on for a first to fine log more than six months after the cache was listed? Having found a parking place we wandered into a nearby café for a coffee and then had a walk through the shops where I found some comfortable, cheap, ventilated trainers to replace the expensive Merrell sandals I'd trashed the day before.

Once on the beach, oiled up and settled down, Carole dismissed me to go and look for the cache which is in the next cove to the east, Cala Mitjana. To get there I first had to climb the stairs up the cliff face and at the top realised I was close to a cache hidden in a look out over the bay. It would have been rude not to look for the cache when I was that close so I wandered down to the viewing point only to discover it was empty. No one around (although there were villas all around none had windows looking my way). I stripped and a short naked hunt turned up the cache. Log signed and cache replaced I decided that leaving the spot naked was not smart. It must have been all of three seconds after I dressed when an older couple arrived to take in the view...

The route to Cala Mitjana was the Cami de Cavalls again and I was hoping it would be suitable for an SN walk. As soon as I was out of the buildings I stripped off. Two minutes later I dressed at the sound of approaching people. Once past I stripped again, only to repeat the exercise a few minutes later. The undressing and dressing cycle continued until, after about 5 cycles, I got bored and just stayed dressed.

The walk was delightful, just spoiled by the feeling that I was over dressed. So, when I spotted a path off to the right marked as being a view point I took it and promptly stripped off, hoping this path would be quieter. It was and I was able to stay naked and unseen to the headland where I grabbed a few pictures of the view and a few more of the naked monster...





I walked back to the main Cami de Cavalls, where I dressed expecting the path to be as busy as it had been previously; it was. However, I was able to collect some information required for the cache before I reached the beach.

I should explain earth caches; these do not have anything physically hidden but are spots where geology can be seen, typically they require the cacher to answer some geology questions about the location to the satisfaction of the cache owner before they can log the cache. For this cache I was going to have to swim out of the bay a little to look at the caves to the east.

At the beach there were a few people around, I'd guess at a dozen, maybe fifteen. The best place to enter the water for the caves was the east side and, as I arrived I watched an obviously British retired couple set up camp right where I wanted to be. The chap remained fully dressed apart from his sandals and socks, which he removed and placed carefully on a large rock. His wife spent about ten minutes doing the most convoluted towel dance I've ever seen to get into a one piece swimming cozzie that looked like a modern interpretation of something the Victorians might have worn.

I had no choice so I simply stood the far side of a large rock from them and stripped off. This put me in full view of the rest of the beach (there was no one there naked). I was just placing my clothes in my bag to stop them blowing off the rock when Mrs Brit walked past on her way to the water. She did not seem to notice I was there, let alone how I was dressed as she got into the sea and started to swim out. I soon followed her into the water but was careful not to follow her directly in case that was misconstrued. Fortunately she soon turned across the bay allowing me clear access to the caves. I spent about 20 minutes in the water collecting the information I needed and just enjoying the freedom and then as I went to get out Mrs Brit turned up again. I allowed her to get out and clear before leaving the water myself. No one seemed the least bit fussed as I stood and dried off while noting down my observations.

I decided I was not going to dress to walk back to Cala Galdana. Instead I left my clothes safely in my bag but got my camera ready hoping for a few good photo opportunities on the way back. As I was walking back to the steps up from the beach a couple with a young child started down them, to avoid a run in with over protective parents I kept a large gap and only headed up the stairs once they were clear. As I was halfway up, another family started down. Oh well, it was their choice so I just kept going. Again, they were Brits and I got a bit of a “look” from the Mum but my cheerful “Hola” was returned by everyone in the group so I guess it was not too much of a shock to their system.

At the top of the stairs I paused to put on footwear then set off to return to Cala Galdana grabbing a few pictures of the bay before I left. This was my favourite of the batch:



The next pair of walkers I met stood on the seaward side of the path and gazed resolutely at the water until I had passed... Hmmm. I found myself chuckling at his behaviour and more resolved than ever to stay naked until I reached the buildings.

I pause again to grab a few self-portraits at the path junction to the viewing point I'd visited earlier then continued in the 22 degree warmth revelling in the light breeze on my skin.



A little further on, I stopped for another set of pics. This is by no means the best of them but amused me because, as you can see, a couple of walker came past as I was taking the shots, (they were just walking into view as the last one of the set was taken).



The whole walk back to Galdana was similar, on route I passed around 30 people and had no hostile reactions, just the couple who refused to look around and a short way before the end a couple who came up behind me, exclaimed “Oh! He's naked” and then turned back a few yards only continuing once they thought I'd gone. I could not resist stopping a couple more times to see I they would get brave enough to go past. Over the next ten minutes or so I saw them three more times, each time they stopped or turned back to avoid me. Am I really that scary?

As planned, I dressed just short of the built up area and walked the last stretch of the path back to the road. Here I noticed a path to another cliff top look out over the beach. The path was about 100 yards long and took me to an area around 10 yards by 2 yards with a fabulous view over the bay. When I realised that there was no one else in sight I could not resist grabbing a couple of quick pictures, this was my favourite one:



Once I’d grabbed the pics I dressed and walked back to the top of the cliff stairs. Here I could see that there was no one coming up and nobody behind me so I decided to enjoy the climb down as I should have dressed for the ascent. I was hoping I would be able to get into the water for a quick swim to cool down. However, a group of people arrived and, given that this is a town beach it seemed inappropriate to walk past them naked so I dressed.

On getting back to Carole I dropped off my bag of stuff, put on swimming trunks (yuk!) and wandered into the water to cool down. Once deep enough to swim the trunks came off and were simply wrapped around my wrist while I enjoyed a 20 minute skinny dip. There were a couple of others swimming a little further offshore than most and I soon discovered that at least two of them were wearing their cozzies in a similar fashion to me. Despite that, I saw no sense in rocking the boat by walking out of the water naked. Instead I dressed, grabbed my bag and wandered off to buy a couple of cold beers; earning a good supply of brownie points when I passed one to the boss.

As it started to cool down Carole decided she wanted to stretch her legs before we drove back to Son Bou. We returned everything to the car and walked on along the Cami de Cavalls to the west. The path was very busy with people walking in the opposite direction. We walked for about half an hour, reaching the first lookout point before we turned back. No opportunity for walking naked there; Carole would have been too concerned.


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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2015, 04:11:01 AM »
I remember these posts from TSNS, it was nice to read and see the photos again.

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. . . Carole is my wife and is not a naturist . .

I seem to remember you discussing, a long time ago, you and Mrs. M both engaging in a little SN back in younger times. Am I wrong and remembering someone else?

What's the general rule there in Minorca for nudity? Is it at the Beach only? Are there laws to be aware of?

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Am I really that scary?

I'm sure it was probably that you hadn't shaved that day, nothing more.

Sounds like a wonderful trip and very relaxing.

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2015, 08:59:25 AM »
I remember these posts from TSNS, it was nice to read and see the photos again.

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. . . Carole is my wife and is not a naturist . .

I seem to remember you discussing, a long time ago, you and Mrs. M both engaging in a little SN back in younger times. Am I wrong and remembering someone else?

What's the general rule there in Minorca for nudity? Is it at the Beach only? Are there laws to be aware of?

Carole has never been a naturist, either SN or battery. She did join me at a naturist swim in Bedford a couple of times, but I suspect that was largely to check that there was nothing untoward going on. My memory says that Mrs Nuduke may have been more relaxed about nudity years ago but I may also be misremembering that. It does seem to be relatively common that females become less comfortable as they gain experience of life and a body that shows it.

The laws concerning nudity in Menorca are the same as the rest of Spain; nudity is legal unless there is a specific local ordinance prohibiting it. However, overt nudity is generally frowned on in town beaches unless they are signed as naturist (Mar Bella in Barcelona for example).

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2015, 09:35:57 PM »
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Carole has never been a naturist, either SN or battery.

Well, maybe it was Mrs. N.

So is "or battery" another one of those Brit things you are going to have to explain to us Americans. I've looked in Urban Dictionary & Acronym Finder, nothing.

Just not making a connection to the battery.

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2015, 09:59:15 PM »
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Carole has never been a naturist, either SN or battery.

Well, maybe it was Mrs. N.

So is "or battery" another one of those Brit things you are going to have to explain to us Americans. I've looked in Urban Dictionary & Acronym Finder, nothing.

Just not making a connection to the battery.

It's drawing an analogy of naturism in landed clubs to battery farmed food as opposed to free range :)

Naturism with or without walls.





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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 04:43:55 AM »
Quote from: Ian
Carole has never been a naturist, either SN or battery.

Well, maybe it was Mrs. N.

So is "or battery" another one of those Brit things you are going to have to explain to us Americans. I've looked in Urban Dictionary & Acronym Finder, nothing.

Just not making a connection to the battery.

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 12:28:26 AM »
Yes it was me describing occasions on holiday around 30 plus years ago now, when Mrs Nuduke got naked on a nudist beach, one in Crete ( 2 occasions) and one in Morocco (spending a day as a naturist).
On the couple of occasions when I have spoken to her of that, in these days, she claims not to have enjoyed it.  But she participated willingly enough at the time and my memory is that she much enjoyed the one-upmanship of exchanging crowded touristy beaches for quiet stretches of naturist beach.  Maybe gaining space was her primary motivation but she participated nevertheless.  Despite the distance in time, I distinctly remember on the Crete beach we enjoyed seeing other couples that came upon the beach turn and flee (politely!) when they discovered the naturist spot and we agreed together that we were made of more emancipated stuff than the prudes that couldn't stand to strip off on this obviously naturist spot that we were happy to join in with. 

What happened in the intervening years to so completely strip her of that relaxed point of view and replace it with an angst ridden fear of nudity and the potential for discovery?  I don't know.  But I am sad that I didn't spot that happening until it was too late.

It's strange.  I wonder what would have happened if she'd had enough energy to walk the Scottsdale golf course last year with jbee, DF and I?  Would she have got really angry when we got naked and starbathed?  Might she have joined in so as not to seem churlish?  Might she have joined in and made her naturist discovery?  My guess is that she would have joined in because she would have been odd woman out, but been so concerned about discovery that she would have soon found an excuse to dress again.

Hey ho.  Oh dear, we have lost the many pages of 'Spouse Progress Update' that we have generated upon which folios much angst has been expended by me on her lack of progress whilst others reported their spouses 'coming out' progressively.   This forum doesn't lend itself so much to the multi-categorisation of posts that we enjoyed on TSNS.  I wonder if S & K might allow us some topics?  I'll ask.

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2015, 12:48:50 AM »
A spouse progress update would go under general naturism section. Karla told us that they didn't have a plan for this and its nature should be to take on a personality of its own, so with that in mind, new topics are fine and enriching. They also have a suggestion box.

I'm sure that the three of us would wear down Mrs. N in a few short days, if given the opportunity. She was a lively and open wonderful soul with us, who confided to me that you were the less liberal/experimental of the two. I'd bet that she would be willing to prove her point. She has a zest for life and its experiences.
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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2015, 01:45:03 AM »
I wish, John, that we could have spent more time visiting when the two of you came through here. I would add to what Jbee stated that I had probably less than an hour, the time it took her to finish her BEER, then the visit was over and she had to get the baggage ready for your long trip home.

I found her to be a lively and engaging personality during the time we spent discussing how many different life events we had in common. I think I asked you at the time if she was aware of how and where you and I had come to know one another, but I don't remember your answer.

I think you said she knew the details of how we knew each other. If so I would also add that she was very gracious knowing how uneasy your SN activities made her.

I'm would hope Jbee's assessment is close to the mark for your sake and hers. His enthusiasm and positive outlook would wear down Mt. Rushmore.  ;D

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2015, 10:39:55 AM »
Quote from: Ian
Carole has never been a naturist, either SN or battery.

Well, maybe it was Mrs. N.

So is "or battery" another one of those Brit things you are going to have to explain to us Americans. I've looked in Urban Dictionary & Acronym Finder, nothing.

Just not making a connection to the battery.

It's drawing an analogy of naturism in landed clubs to battery farmed food as opposed to free range :)

Naturism with or without walls.

Thank you Karla,

That is exactly what I meant. I'm sure we used the term quite a lot at TSNS when Nova (Running Bare / Graeme) was active. Sadly, he seems to have pretty much vanished, not just from TSNS bit from Naturist-Corner and even from his own walking group, the Somerset Strolling Bears.

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2015, 05:26:07 PM »
After hearing your definition, it conjured up images of pens, gates and locks all meant to corral animals and prevent them from wandering.

Kinda creepy.

I've looked at naturist resorts and have decided that if I ever visit one it will be one where I would be able to go out away from all the amenities.

Jbee's De Anza facility comes to mind.

Duane

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2015, 09:24:55 PM »
Well, I've caught up on all the other sections/threads, now I'm starting on the trip reports ... and I'm just awestruck!  I want to go to Spain!  A beautiful venue and nudity is legal!  How can it get any better than that?

Most excellent experience and report, Ian.  I really like the way you intersperse the pictures in the text.  I never worked that out on the old site, but, I read your instruction sticky here and note that Tony and others have easily adopted the process.  Hmmm ...

You had great fun, naked on your Menorca trip!
Larry (tanman in Texas)

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Re: A week in Menorca
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2015, 11:18:57 PM »
I just re-read Duane & jbee's recollections of June 30th of meeting Mrs N last year and noted that they both have positive recollections of her.  I just felt motivated to add that she is indeed a most personable, liberal minded, intelligent person
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I found her to be a lively and engaging personality during the time we spent
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She was a lively and open wonderful soul with us, who confided to me that you were the less liberal/experimental of the two.
Good assessments both!  And I make these points to counterweight all the stuff I've talked about relating to her dislike of naturism and issues with me being nude and with herself disliking to be nude and her general dislike of naturism in others.  My moaning and complaining reports of our ongoing debate around my naturism must make her seem like a right miserable old harridan!  Nothing could be further from the truth. 

Just setting the record a bit straighter for next time I report some adverse spousal progress!

John (loving husband) :)