Greetings from Kayaker

[nuduke]

 Gosh, yet another definition discussion 

Just to summarise a whole other thread (and, with apologies, I can't remember which, possibly the 'Refugees' topic and possibly more than one!), there seemed to be a consensus emerging that Free Range was a wider term that contained our genre Secret and that there was no need for segregation or separatism.  I opined that FR was perforce S and that where not FR probably no need for S as non-FR was probably P (..rivate) but Bounded (club) was a different genre. 

We love to classify. Shows we are hunan beans!

Do people that live their lives naked talk about wanting to be free to wear clothes? 

John

[jbeegoode]

My thinking is that these terms can only be defined as applied to examples. That they will overlap with each other, and although they are more definitive they are more confusing. Just like many words in the English language.
Free range naturist
free range nudist
stealth naturist
secret naturist
secretive naturist
secretive nudist
naturist
nudist
nacktivist
naked
nekkid

Got more?
These all make sense to me...uh. oh....
Jbee

[JOhnGw]

Nuddies?

[jbeegoode]

My thinking is that these terms can only be defined as applied to examples. That they will overlap with each other, and although they are more definitive they are more confusing. Just like many words in the English language.
Free range naturist
free range nudist
stealth naturist
secret naturist
secretive naturist
secretive nudist
naturist
nudist
nacktivist
naked
nekkid
Okay! nuddies do I hear another, how about two? Three?

Got more?
These all make sense to me...uh. oh....
Jbee

[eyesup]

We love to classify. Shows we are hunan beans!

Not me, John! I'm not from China.

I like solitary naturist also. It best describes what I do.

Duane

[jbeegoode]

solitary naturist
solitary nudist
social nudist
social naturist

They seem to keep comin'!
After they accumulate, I suppose we'll have to sort them out and....
That may create the greatest Ven diagram ever...
...let's keep 'em comin' anyway!
Jbee

[nuduke]

Secluded Naturist?
Segregated?
Solo?
Sole?
Soil?...no scrap that one!
Soul? ...nice!
Slow?...another reject.
Oh sole mio?

Sorry, I've lost the plot...why are we doing this?  Thesaurus testing, perhaps.  What's wrong with the good old 'Secret' handle?

John

[milfmog]

What's wrong with the good old 'Secret' handle?

I can never find it when I need it.

Have fun,


Ian.

[eyesup]

I do that on occasion.

Put important items in places so safe that even I cannot find them.

Duane

[nuduke]

Put important items in places so safe that even I cannot find them

I've noticed over the years a strange and repeatable phenomenon regarding lost objects.  You always seem to find them in the very last place you look!

John

[jbeegoode]

Yesterday, I found my keys in the first place I looked. The place that they were supposed to be...but I had already looked everywhere else, because they had slipped under some dental floss in the bucket, and I didn't see them the first time.

It was though there had been a shift in the universe. Then, I realized that were still, consistently, they were in the last place that I looked, too.

Jbee

[eyesup]

It must be a cosmological law, John, as there is no such thing as a coincidence.

So it's good to hear Jbee, that you did in fact find them in the last place you looked.
The universe seemed to have shifted over the weekend but has settled back to normal.

Whew, catastrophe avoided.

Duane

[jbeegoode]

 !
Jbee

[balead]

Someone stole Dave's screen name ... this is definitely not our old friend and Secret Naturist, "Dave!"  He would NEVER make such a statement!

It IS me Larry, I'm just moving with the times. As far as I'm concerned "secret naturism" was a term meant to mean naturism outside of designated areas. The "secret" part could be taken too literally to mean that nobody knew about your naturism. Free range (why do I always want to type that as one word?) also means naturism outside of designated areas. The scope is wider in that it could include not bothering to try to remain unseen, but I've still not read anything here that wouldn't have been accepted on the old site.

Using the term "secret naturism" will be confusing to existing and new members of this forum, therefore I think we need to drop it and embrace Free range naturism.

Oh, and a belated welcome to Kayaker.

[jbeegoode]

Yea, I have indecision. Is it freerange, free range, or free-range? When I google freerange eggs, even on wikipedia there are free range (denoting cattle as well as other husbandry) and also, free-range. There are photo images in a couple of spots labeled freerange. There does seem to be less use of the term contracted as freerange at this time.

Miriam-Webster defines free-range as : allowed to move around freely : not kept in cages; also : coming from free-range animals.

This is not the case with human's free-range movement. We ain't allowed to!

This is new territory; it's not even a word yet and tends to redefine an existing term. Good ol' English language mutating again, can't keep up with it. Now, will the other languages adopt it into their vocabulary like many other technical terms? Paul and JMF, you could start the ball rolling in Dutch and French language. Spanish has "de granja." By google translate: Into French it is freerange and free-range. Dutch is vrije uitloop for free-range and free range, but not freerange, or scharrelkippen for free range chickens, so I'm not sure how it is on a carton of eggs. Paul? German is Freilandhühner, but that is literally about chickens.

Well, anyway, things evolve in English.
Jbee

Ah ha! As the definition related to free range poultry,according to google translate, the venerable old international language of the ages and science, all terms science LATIN translates "free range" as "free range". Free range naturism is good. It is street legal! Webster's catch up...

...that is I think that's how it works....
Jbee