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Re: Problems and progress with reluctant and difficult partners.
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2016, 07:36:23 PM »
A, I didn't catch that! I have endeavored to dedicate at least one day of my life watching Outlaw Josey Wales. I'm sure that I've used up better than half of that, so far. It has been a coupe of years, about time for another watch. Gotta love it. It is very possible to sneak up on me when I'm focused on that flick.
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« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2016, 10:46:20 PM »
Lisa,
What are you talking about?!  Not a reference that I can grasp either!

Re Hot tubs - your anecdotes about how 'easy' it is/was to maintain/heat/fill/balance/drain/chop wood for/buy gas/spot bacterial blooms (cloudy) in/wait for heat with etc etc etc, makes my case for deciding against the bigger swimspa version!!  Too much messing about. 

I did see an inflatable one in a store the other day and looked slightly wistfully upon it...but equally, realised that we had made the right decision!
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« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2016, 12:00:25 AM »
"I did see an inflatable one in a store the other day and looked slightly wistfully upon it..."

John, We have a couple of the inflatables and love them.  I've always liked a hot water/cold water outside more than a bathtub,  and these are awesome.  The chemical balance isn't hard at all. We don't use the bubbler much as it detracts from the heat but they are okay for an inflatable.  They tolerate the outdoor environment pretty good.  We take one camping and set it up in a tent for privacy. We can even put two floats side by side for a nice warm heat and at night by a fire under the stars is... Well, awesome.  Okay that's two times for awesomeness but it's just that.

I find I have to be in hot water daily or I don't function very well...

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« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2016, 01:12:10 PM »
Must say, I had an inflatable hot tub in my back garden a couple of years ago, in Scotland.
It was lovely, using it on a daily basis. The maintenance was not unduly arduous, testing the acidity etc, but the biggest downer was the cast of heating. We practically doubled our electricity bill for the period we had it going.
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« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2016, 08:45:57 PM »
Okay, Kayaker, ya got me going, intrigued, creative juices are flowing. Where does the water come from and the heat? Generator on the back of your camper? Pump and hose from stream or lake? Something somehow else? Sparks from fire? DF and I gotta know! Two rafts! What are the dimensions? Got Pics?
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« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2016, 03:43:47 PM »
Pedro and JBEE,

We love these little tubs.  We have a third above ground pool that supports itself with the weight of the water which serves as the cool pool and is the primary pool during summer.  Then we have the hot pool (inflatable) which is a few feet away, and we dip from one to the other.  Larry built a cool windscreen which tucks up around the hot pool to brace against winter winds, and works nicely during rain showers as a semi cover.  We sit in the tub during the misty rains and sometimes harder rains which is quite exhilarating.

The two tub arrangement is on a concrete pad down in the back pasture clearing, what we call the Nest Spa and CO resort as I've had a bit of fun with tropical decor and themes using sound.   We set up the "spa" for a lazy day of lounging in the waters and listening to the birds and various music playlists for a virtual trip to the jungle, the Caribbean, the Mediterranean, or a rowdier Hagar-ish Baja freestyle flashback from the 60's to current alternative electronic.  We stay there all day and night during summers for one of the weekend days as a rest day.  It's quite a rig.

JBee, the little tub comes with a heater attachment that circulates the water once you fill the tub.  It takes about 24 hours or so to get to max heat which is 104F.  There is a cover which keeps the heat in while you're out of the pool and you can leave it on to maintain a desired setpoint or shut it off for storage inbetween sessions and just ramp up again to desired temp.

Now we are a bit unconventional in that we create "hot shots" using a separate heater system.  Larry spent all day working on a splice system with a real spa heater into the bigger cold pool.  The big pool is only 10 feet round.  For the last two years we've had a water heater hose to drop in for hot shots in the little tub (6 ft round) as I like a hot temp of 110F and cold pool contrast.

If I can figure out how to upload pics I will show you the setup.

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« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2016, 04:14:43 PM »
Now for the description of the tent application and portable inflatable hot tub.

We take frequent trips to the beach and occasional longer trips to woodland camping and lakes for a kayaking/camping trip. If we are going to be there for at least a week, in the last couple of years we would take a tub and tent. The tent is slightly larger than the tub base about 9ft and has several zipscreens for airflow.  There's just enough room for a little folding camp table inside.

Location does matter for positioning and wind protection.  The beach setup is harder but because of wind forces.  JBee we aren't camping directly on the beach with the tub, although we do beach camp occasionally.  Lately we've been fortunate to have several weeks' condo camping in our timeshare directly on the beach.   That's not exactly roughing it, but there's no hot tub there, and we enjoy walking the beach early and late and a nice hot tub in the evening and early morning.  Just walk down the stairs au naturale into the privacy of ones own.... Tent spa.   I enjoy Old Rasputin Russian imperial stouts and he likes Boston Black chocolate warmed to tub temps. Couple that with yummy snacks and a little sound cube and appropriate playlist for the weather and you have the experience of luxury spa or exciting hurricane.

At the beach the tent was positioned at the base of the private stairs up to the condo, on the parking pad.  A regular water hose to fill, although setup was unfortunately fairly excruciating for the Tanman due to the challenges of inflation... but he likes the idea more than the backache, and we sit in the tub at all hours.  It makes for a great craft beer warmer too.  The only problem with beach is that the last three times we setup for the week we had storms and gale force winds, which is quite hard on the tent.

In the campgrounds we set up the tent like a regular tent with the tub inside, and hook up to a water source with a hose.  In both scenarios the hardest part is draining which takes several hours (like draining a fish tank) when inside a tent as opposed to open plug wash on the outdoor pad at the Nest.

Since I am such a water baby these variations on water bathing are actually quite important to my psyche.  There is a very cool place in Colorado (naturist area) that is a special place for us that has several high altitude natural pools.  He took me there on one if our first trips and I was totally hooked. It has almost everything I enjoy, (no large water for kayaking) but high vistas and geology and caves and hot pools and awesome night sky and remoteness and interesting history from mining eras.   It's a challenging hike up the mountain but then a series of pools at different heights from top to bottom.  We have been there in winter and summer.  Again pics to post when I know how to do that here.  That location and Lake Ouichita are my faves.   

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« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2016, 05:33:49 PM »

Since I am such a water baby these variations on water bathing are actually quite important to my psyche.  There is a very cool place in Colorado (naturist area) that is a special place for us that has several high altitude natural pools.  He took me there on one if our first trips and I was totally hooked. It has almost everything I enjoy, (no large water for kayaking) but high vistas and geology and caves and hot pools and awesome night sky and remoteness and interesting history from mining eras.   It's a challenging hike up the mountain but then a series of pools at different heights from top to bottom.  We have been there in winter and summer.  Again pics to post when I know how to do that here.  That location and Lake Ouichita are my faves.   

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« Reply #68 on: February 25, 2016, 12:37:07 PM »
Yes JBee and the bats too :)))

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« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2016, 03:17:49 PM »
When I lived in New Mexico I frequented Orient Land Trust often, called Valley View Hot Springs in those days.  One time I hiked all the way to the top of the mountain, all naked of course.  Sometimes I was the only person who spent all day naked.  So many would only go naked in the pools.   

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« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2016, 09:48:48 PM »
I like it there.  We camp as far from the crowd as we can get and hike the trails on the ridges and up the mountain.  I had an interesting experience with snakes in one of the pools though.

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« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2016, 12:55:18 PM »
Fascinating, Lisa

From the first mention of the spa pools, I had visions of you two carrying huge quantities of camping gear hither and yon including pools, pumps, tents, chemicals and all.  Your description clarifies.  It's all fairly civilised really!  I'd love to see a picture or two.  You gotta do some homework on photo posting (in fact so should I, because this summer there's going to be photos to post, oh yes!!).

I have mentioned before that I'm not a great spa pool fan, mainly due to the enforced inactivity.  Maybe I've got a hyperactivity psychological tendency but I just get bored sitting and doing nothing.  True it is that I am a fairly experienced devotee of sitting or indeed lying in bed!  But there, the brain is always occupied with reading or researching by computer activity, emails, TV or conversation with the wife who is similarly a black belt of bodily repose!  But of those times I have sat in a spa, one is restricted from a lot of that stuff due to the watery circumstances.  Nothing better for a cellphone or a book than to be dropped into mildly chlorinated hot water!! :D

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« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2016, 01:08:37 PM »
We are just back from a BN weekend in Blackpool. On the Saturday evening we went off to Sandcastles water park. To start with I hurled myself down black chutes and rode through rapids and down what may only be described as a giant plug hole! All great fun but also located in the complex was a spa area with several steam rooms - sea salt, the ordinary type and an aromatherapy one, plus a sauna and hot beds. This meant a perfect evening of high scale activity followed by a relaxed spa experience.

It was good to see a good number of women enjoying the weekend. From conversations with some of them most would say they were reluctant at one time. Given time many take up the life-style, many with gusto. Show them and tell the good side of naturism, but don't force them. Softly softly catchee monkee. It worked with Mrs Davie. Be warned - once they take it up, they really take it up and you may have to catch up! Good luck to all of you with reluctant partners.

Davie  8)

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« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2016, 04:07:59 PM »
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Nothing better for a cellphone or a book than to be dropped into mildly chlorinated hot water!! :D

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« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2016, 07:21:34 PM »

We are just back from a BN weekend in Blackpool. On the Saturday evening we went off to Sandcastles water park. To start with I hurled myself down black chutes and rode through rapids and down what may only be described as a giant plug hole! All great fun but also located in the complex was a spa area with several steam rooms - sea salt, the ordinary type and an aromatherapy one, plus a sauna and hot beds. This meant a perfect evening of high scale activity followed by a relaxed spa experience.

It was good to see a good number of women enjoying the weekend. From conversations with some of them most would say they were reluctant at one time. Given time many take up the life-style, many with gusto. Show them and tell the good side of naturism, but don't force them. Softly softly catchee monkee. It worked with Mrs Davie. Be warned - once they take it up, they really take it up and you may have to catch up! Good luck to all of you with reluctant partners.

Davie  8)
A luxuriating spa, brings them in to it, then the trap springs as they realize that the appropriate outfit, is in the nude! They are snared in no time. especially when they see other women at it. Davie, you Willey Coyote! Context and peer influence.
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