How was your month for Free Range Naturism?

[jbeegoode]

Odds are you'll have a better time.

There is a tea called "Smooth Move" by "Traditional Medicinals" that I highly recommend, if they give you a few days worth of opiates for the pain.  Also, you'll want a smooth move for a few weeks to avoid straining the surgery area.

Air to the wound helped my recovery, too...that was easy.
Jbee

[nuduke]

Yay!  We've got a fine day at last (Thursday) - no clothes on me (except some overalls for 20 mins to mow the front lawn.
I'm only inside doing these posts inside in a break to avoid too much sun and sunburn in the garden.

Very best wishes for your hernia op and recovery, Fellsnude
John

[Fellsnude]

Operation done OK on Wednesday - local anaesthetic with sedative, which felt pretty much the same as a general but they say is less invasive. Slept quite a lot Thursday and Friday. No pain unless I'm changing position  - sitting to standing or laying down, and vice-versa, just needs a bit of ibuprofen every now and then. Genitals have gone partly purple but no pain there, and it's apparently fairly normal although ti didn't happen last time.

Thursday we had one warm day at 24C, so I sat outside naked all afternoon but kept the sun off the wound. Back to rain today. Ho-hum.

Thanks for advice and good wishes.

[nuduke]

Good news. Fellsnude
Your recovery proceeding nicely it seems.
Best wishes
John

[jbeegoode]

Now where is that thumbs up emoji?
Jbee

[Fellsnude]

Well, August was better than July but that wasn't hard. I had some nude outdoor time on 13 of the 31 days, but it was all in the back yard at home, nothing freerange. That was partly (mostly?) because I had to rest after my hernia operation on 9th so I can't really complain. Most of those days involved grabbing the odd hour or two when the clouds parted.

Next week shows some super weather forecasts but we have a big family & friends get-together. The weather will be great for that but there will be precious few opportunities for FRN - can't have everything I suppose!

[jbeegoode]

August is done! We have been settled into home after a months camping and now too many projects, the new norm. The first was to fix the air conditioner and then then to sit and enjoy the refrigerated feeling. I've been spending more time indoors this month.

It has continued to be much more than historically hot, but not quite as much as symptoms of the monsoon began to happen. The season has been spotty rain, some days and some places, instead of the general daily early evening downpour and deluge. Still, we have had the daily threat and more so in the cool mountains. Some areas around town have just not gotten any. Most have not gotten what it needs and few have had the daily rains. There is expected a 90% chance today...finally, but then an apparent end to the rainy season.

So, we tried to get out and about instead of just being nude around town, mostly DF's and my place and in-between. It had rained a few days consistently out on the northeastern end of the valley. We could see that and got reports from friends out there. Redington pass should be happening. We eagerly drove up there, only to still find but puddles and no swimming. Over the hill they have been getting lots of rain!  We spent the morning roaming. I'll have a report on the site eventually. It was disappointing.

So, we thought that half way up Mt. Lemmon would be advantageous. No water to speak of, but there was a fine hike amongst hoodoos and scrub oaks and some pines. Didn't see a soul. We might backpack in and camp some day.

So, excursive heat and threat of lightning and showers in the cooler mountains has diminished our range.

There's a nude swim party this holiday weekend and I'll see if somebody there wants to do Lemmon Pools. DF has gone a couple of weeks visiting her 101 B-day mom in Georgia. I'll be busy at home and health projects...naked.
Jbee

[Davie]

It's been a slightly disappointing month. Two group walks have been cancelled due to the group leaders being unavailable and no-one being free who knew the route. On the other hand one did take place and at the end were met by the Police. An explanation of the College of Policing advice regarding nudity and they left, all smiles and a comment. "We've learnt something today. "

I've managed a couple of walks both about seven miles. I would probably gave done more but the weather has not been as good as it should have been.

We have a group walk planned next week and for once the weather looks good.

Davie 

[jbeegoode]

I assume that the police waiting may have been a complaint, or a tip off from 911 (That's USA, don't know Europe), or maybe a group like yours attracts attention like a circus parade come to town. Did they let you know why they took the trouble?

Do all of the cars, nude people, talking and commotion attract attention, or does it seem pretty subdued, talking quietly, out in the countryside away from roads, buildings, starting at an official trailhead out of town, or something, etc.

Also, is it a new route each time? I never thought much about the leadership and logistics factors.

Jbee

[Davie]

Probably a call to the Police on our emergency 999 system. The call handler should have advised the caller that simple nudity is entirely legal. However there is a bonus to this incident as the Officers admitted learning something.

There have been no known prosecutions of genuine naturists in the UK for several years.

We have a number of routes so we repeat walks.
 We walk clothed until we leave the main road or village. We've only ever met one really unpleasant individual but he's rude to everyone including two of our group who were clothed investigating a new route during a snow storm. Whilst sheltering under a tree he shouted at them for being a few feet if the public foot path.

Davie 

[jbeegoode]

Then it could have been any number of weird reasons that the call was made. I'm thinking about the person that is more outraged as affront to his/her trust of his warm blanket of thoughtless self-centric social sensibilities. Or the trust in the authority of others, so as to snitch off any infraction to the police and then pat his or her self on the back for upholding the good for the people, as a heroic act. Or nothing better to do. Not that they surveyed themselves personally to see if they were in anyway actually offended, or damaged by the curious sight of a group of adults without coverings. I confess. I have a difficult time understanding how people actually could be damaged by naked bodies.

No one was hurt. The local police can adjust. Sure wish that such a reasonable directive could be accomplished here.
Jbee

[Davie]

A lot of people still believe any outdoor nudity, unless in a naturist club to be illegal. This means that many calls concerning nudity is a false call with good intent.

Call handlers should establish what the call is about and send no resources unless thete us a sexual motive, flashing or mental health issue, e.g. bizarre behaviour. All our British Naturism membership cards have the web address of the College of Policing advice on responding to reports of nudity.

Davie 

[Greenbare Woods]

Call handlers should establish what the call is about and send no resources unless thete us a sexual motive,
Davie   

I agree with you Davie that call handlers should politely inform the caller that nudity is not a crime.

I'm not sure about the whole sexual motive thing.  Sex is a very important part of every person's life, starting from sex being responsible for being born.  Sex is a very powerful human emotion for many if not all people, and normal human emotions and feelings need to be respected.  The whole anti-sex thing goes with being anti-body.  Its a show of disrespect for normal people.  Your opinion may vary.

[Davie]

I agree that sex is an importnt part of normal life and as naturists we too should enjoy a healthy sex life... but there are times and places.

What isn't acceptable is men exposing themselves to women (or indeed men) with intent to cause a shocked reaction. We don't expect  forced sexual action against someone who doesn't want it in normal society and the same applies to naked people. As naturists in the UK we do not condone what we term indecent exposure and neither do we accept indebect behaviour in public places especially when its done under the cover of naturism. It's this sort of behaviour that makes life more difficult for genuine naturists. I fully support Police action against flashers, they are a curse both to innocent woment and the naturist cause.

As an example a group of natuists had a good relationship with a bird sancturary and naked walks were a common and accepted activity. Then along came a rag of a newspaper who lifted pictures, actually from another country and suggested that all this nudity was a cover for swinging. Its now more difficult to walk naked in that area as people will believe the rubbish printed without any evidence, just clickbail.

If naked walking is to be generally accepted it must be done respectfully... and we find that the vast majority of non-naturists are accepting but start acting in a sexual way and they won't be, and quite frankly I woudn't blame them.

I've no problem with consensual dogging, wife swapping etc. provided its consensual and discreet. I don't want to see it taking place in the dunes escpecially when there are children and families about. Neither to I want swingers clubs usuing the word naturism to promote their activities.

Davie 

[jbeegoode]

 Sorry Davie, what did you intend to say when you wrote "indebect behaviour"? I've inserted several letters to decipher, but nothing has worked.

Anyhoo, Bob, indiscreet public sex is not a easy hurdle to get over. I personally don't want to be bothered by it. I don't like going to gay beaches, because they so often want to do sex freely. Sex is a personal thing between usually two people and public actions are simply exhibitionistic, which means bringing someone else into ones bedroom against their will. That being said, right or wrong, it isn't going to be practical to push for that and public nudity at the same time.

The intent and gain in rape is more often a power trip over women, even more than physical relief. The damage is often more related to that than the physicality of it. Socially, I can control my expression of feelings of anger and sex.

I don't wish to be forced into somebody elses sexual activities. I'm not personally much for watching either.  Simple nudity is a matter of personal adornment. It has less to do with sex than even teasing attention getter gear like short skirts, or bikinis, just because they are designed to augment that.

Davie, it would seem that the policy that you stated makes for a lot of grey area. How does one prove intent, if I am guilty until proven innocent, as I think UK law leans towards. Please, correct me if that is wrong.  Still, intent to shock is nebulous. How can one know what will shock another, with all of the weirdos out there that think naked members of there own species are a hazard, or another's nudity automatically has anything to do with them. I shouldn't be responsible for another person's imagined projections upon me, or another's speculation on my intent, either.

Intent and the sexual intent proof needed can be simply the introduction of an erection. I couldn't count the number of times that I have been flashed by possibly exhibitionistic women in public places. Doesn't what you say discriminate between the genders?
Jbee