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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #645 on: August 16, 2018, 12:33:32 PM »
I'm still not sure about a simpler time but it was for most of us, a time of less restrictions and less authority from above. Ever notice how crime control laws make more thing illegal?

My father served in WWII in the U.S. Army, a year of that time as a POW. My son-in-law's grandmother, still living, served in the RAF and came to this country as a war bride.

Supposedly, the 1950s and into the 1960s were a golden era for nudism. One might think so from nudist magazines from that era. There were seemingly lots of clubs, all featuring mostly young families. Although I have visited only one club, I wonder what it is like these days. Much less rustic for one thing, I imagine. People who travel expect a lot more and I expect that is true for nudists.

Ever heard of (the late) Stan Hamilton?

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #646 on: August 16, 2018, 07:33:27 PM »
We’re they simpler days, or did we just see them as such because of our age and circumstances? Is today more complicated because we are bombarded with so much more of it from so many directions and in so many competing voices?

I think club membership is less because people don’t join clubs like they used to, in any sphere of interest. Too much competition for our time to commit to a club, no patience for the rules and regulations that go with it, less respect for authority reflected in disregarding those who want to run a club or organisation. Gonna do my own thing, man!
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #647 on: August 16, 2018, 10:53:15 PM »
I agree with the part about not joining clubs, although the "we" is us, not the previous generation. That is, we don't join the same sorts of clubs our parents (that is, our fathers) joined. There are still groups that people belong to, mainly for social reasons. I belonged to some different dance groups for several years until family got in the way. In fact, that's where I met my wife. But it varies.

Neither my father nor any adult that I knew when I was little in the 1950s belonged to any club. By club, I mean the usual civic and social clubs like Lions, Shriners, Masons and of course, the country clubs. I don't know of any other clubs around there except for maybe garden clubs. Today, since retiring, my wife belongs to a book club, a garden club and a swim club. I don't belong to any club, although technically I belong to the swim club. But I haven't been in years. I have visited a nudist club but none are closer than about four hours and anyway, I wouldn't belong to any nudist club without my wife. Besides, I wouldn't belong to one anyway. They don't meet any of my interests.

There used to be a well-attended family reunion where my father spent his last 30 years. But according to my stepsister, it hasn't been held for two or three years. Apparently nobody wants to do the work involved. And so there are no more reunions.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #648 on: August 17, 2018, 01:04:29 AM »
I agree with the part about not joining clubs, although the "we" is us, not the previous generation. That is, we don't join the same sorts of clubs our parents (that is, our fathers) joined. There are still groups that people belong to, mainly for social reasons. I belonged to some different dance groups for several years until family got in the way. In fact, that's where I met my wife. But it varies.

I was born in 1945 so I mostly grew up in the 1950s in a small town of about 14,000 people, and it was the largest town anywhere around, the commercial hub. 

The club thing is interesting.  My father belonged to the Elks, the Kiwanis, and the Country Club.  After I grew up he never invited me to join nor even asked me if I wanted to join.   I did join the Elk's club much later in New Mexico.  Their primary activity seemed to be smoking and drinking, and since I don't smoke I didn't appreciate the smoky air in the club.  They also had a monthly party/porn night.   In the town where I grew up there were rumors of prostitution at the Elks too. I wonder if my father was ashamed of the porn nights, etc., and didn't want to talk to me about the activities at the Elks club.  My experience is not that of every man my age, but as Blue Train says, few of my age ever joined the clubs.   And then they started having female members in several of the traditional Men's Clubs.  I'm not sure that was a good idea either. 

The small town I grew up in was segregated and protected. Migratory farm workers, Indians, and other races not welcome after sundown.  We children wandered all over town on our bicycles without parental supervision.   If any child got into much trouble there were watching eyes ready to pick him up and call his parent.   There were fewer police.  We could go naked on the streets late at night.  The watching eyes mostly went to bed shortly after sundown in summer.    Times were a lot more simple back in the 1950s.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #649 on: August 17, 2018, 01:15:41 PM »
I grew up in a small town, thinking it was larger. It was only about 8,000 at most, I think. It's even less now. The big change was that the main employer in town, the railroad, which employed about a thousand men (and perhaps a few women), shut down the operation and moved it somewhere else. It was devastating, of course, to the town, but the town is still there. It has evolved into a sort of extra busy crossroads because of major highways that intersect there and it's also the country seat. It isn't what it used to be. But what is?

The downtown area, all four blocks of it, is practically a ghost town. Not a single business remains from when I last lived there. But it occurred to me that, even if the railroad shops had remained in operation, the downtown business district would still look the same as it down now anyway. I say that because the old downtowns of every town big and small almost everywhere have "decayed" (can't think of a better word). The old businesses either moved outside of town, to the mall or went out of business. Now towns and cities are surrounded by big box stores and chain stores out on the strip. Nobody planned it like that; it just happened. Everyone has a car.

My hometown was on segregated in some ways. Only one business that I recall, an independent drive-in restaurant, had a sign that said "Whites Only," which my father had to explain to me. Schools were not segregated beyond where people happened to live but neighborhoods were de facto segregated. Probably about 93% or 94% white in the 1950s. There were no Asians or Latin Americans but there had long been Middle Easterners living there, curiously, and that is in West Virginia. There is a gravestone a few yards from where my parents and grandparents are buried that is inscribed in Arabic. The person buried there died before I was born, too.

Club-wise, I said that men in my neighborhood did not belong to clubs and only some were regular church goers. But chances are, men in other neighborhoods on the other side of town were more likely to be members of some club and probably more than one. They were the professional and managerial class, I guess you would say. There was a country club. The two and only times I visited the country club were for my 50th high school reunion, two nights in a row. All those clubs for men, like the Elks, probably had lady's auxiliaries. My late father-in-law was not a mason and he never asked me to join. I guess I'm not good material for something like that. But his son didn't join, either.

There were few police then, don't know about now. They were more like Barney Fife and it was likely that you knew the name of at least one. I don't think any kid ever tried going naked on the streets but there were still places with enough privacy where you could get out of your clothes with a friend if you wanted to.

I'm still not sure about the times being simpler but I was.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #650 on: August 17, 2018, 07:49:28 PM »


...I'm still not sure about the times being simpler but I was.

 :) ;) ;D

I grew up a military brat, as they say, so I never stayed around more than a coupe of years, five once and one three times. Although I mostly lived around military kids who knew the same, I lived out "in the economy", too, with people who grew up in the same place.

I was a WSMR kid, White Sands Missile Range, a small base like a small town, remote and I had the run of the place. Alternatively, I was kept safely tucked away from "Communist" kidnappers at times by over-protective parents. Living in a variety of places, I experienced a variety of situations.

The military is a place where group showers, manliness, stand in line in your underwear orders are norm. A nude body is a sensibility. Such a culture overlaid the upbringing of the children. In school, we were treated the same. There was also a draft that at times seemed an inevitable part of life for a kid surrounded with artillery and explosives, uniforms and marching.

As for joining clubs, the Army was a big club. My dad was into a subsection, an officer's club. All male family for generations were Free Masons, but things like Elks were for my civilian relatives.

In Kansas in the 50's and 60's there was a certain social standing to maintain to be accepted and to advance socially and economically. People joined the correct clubs, the correct churches, dressed and gave outwardly appearances to fit in. Running around naked would be something that would shame the family and undercut their mobility. I'm pretty sure, from reading and the TV of the time, that that was a very common norm back then.

To undress was to take off the proper look and demeanor, to show ignorance of sophisticated social standing, to look poor, not prosperous, smart and successful. We were only allowed to run and play naked, or in underwear when our "good" clothing would get dirty, or when it was acceptable with other family members. In smaller more rural towns and my fathers youth, things were more like the Pollyanna movie and my life at White Sands Missile Range.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #651 on: August 17, 2018, 08:02:21 PM »
Doing all the right things to fit in and be successful and to "make something of yourself" hasn't really changed much. Your resumé has to include your whole life. Or as they say in the military for ambitious officers on the way up, it's "getting your ticket punched."

I was in the army for three years myself, so I understand some of that. One of my wife's cousins' (she only had three) husband was very good at getting his ticket punched; he retired as a three-star general in the Air Force. I went to both his promotion ceremony and his retirement ceremony. I'd been in the company of generals before but not that many. My late father-in-law also served, my father did and so did my son and son-in-law. Coincidentally, both my father and my son took their basic training the same place I did.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #652 on: August 19, 2018, 11:13:37 PM »

Blimey, Norman
What a great shame we didn't get to meet after all these years of corresponding.  That would have been cool.
Are you a regular attender?  It was my first time but by no means my last, I trust.  Maybe we could rendezvous at a future Sleaford Swim?
Are you based in Lincolnshire?
PM me to make arrangements possibly?
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #653 on: August 20, 2018, 11:32:18 PM »
JB, regarding your post a few pages ago about moving from country into suburb with walls around.  That is my situation.  We have 7 foot walls and on one side a double wall on the side yard to shield the pool filter and an alley in the back.  It is pretty private yet the neighborhood is changing. Older residents moving out and their houses getting flipped or people just re-modeling what they have.  One guy bought a house across the street and built a two story monster with balconies in front.  A tilted patio umbrella near the side yard keeps most of the yard private.  One morning I went out to change the birdbath water and looked up and saw roofers on the house two doors down. 
The house behind us across the alley recently sold.  The new owner has put in a new fence on top of a new retaining wall which elevates the yard.  People coming and going through the gate can see into our backyard.  I have to check if the gate is open or closed before moving around much out back.  The other day I was vacuuming the pool standing near the back wall so no one could see me.  My wife walked out on the patio and said there had been a woman at the gate looking at our back yard.
I realized that she may have seen my reflection in house windows. Oh well. 
I can't wait until all these projects are done and I can get my naturist sanctuary back.  The garden won't take care of itself you know.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #654 on: August 25, 2018, 03:26:22 PM »
August 2018 was hot and dry here.  I got outside a lot and enjoyed the sunshine.  Here are a few pictures.   


I took a picture by the outdoor thermometer.  Nice and warm.



Our whirligig has to be repositioned every few days.  Vibrations widen its hole in the hay bale.



There are lots of wheat fields near where I live.  One afternoon while driving around naked I got out and took a picture on the road.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #655 on: September 11, 2018, 02:23:27 AM »
Due to unavoidable family events, my outdoor excursions have been few and far between for the last couple years. At least I still have at home nudity and occasionally a foray into the back yard. Of course there is the expected paucity of activity in the HOT months.

Things seem to be resolving lately so I hope to be back on the trail soon. I have a post about a new event involving a CO visit. So I have been digging through a lot of back posts on the forum to try and catch up. I haven’t logged on since back in June.

Apologies in advance if they seem dated responses.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #656 on: September 12, 2018, 04:18:29 AM »
You finally took to an optional place? Will love to hear how it went.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #657 on: September 13, 2018, 06:35:29 PM »

Blimey!  Over 2 weeks since I last posted.  Sorry regulars, I been busy, busy!
We are now entering Autumn so nude activity will decrease as per every year.
I hope to be able to visit the swim I described a few weeks back a few more times and guess what - Yeldew is a regular there!
We hope to meet up in a few weeks when I can next get there.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #658 on: September 14, 2018, 08:37:08 PM »
The report I wrote was basically my impressions, but the visit, though short was a wonderful change in my regular routine of naked hiking.

Maybe I will jot down some thoughts. Most of the people here are old hands at social nudity, but the experience was a significant change.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #659 on: September 15, 2018, 06:34:25 PM »
Eyesup, I'm supposing that the experience of walking around in public nude was different for you. It was a very short time to experiement. After a couple of days of it, clothing and the concern seem so much more silly. I still feel apprehension sometimes when nude around others, especially if they are clothed. We come out of a clothed society, and get used to it. Then, when getting naked it takes a moment or several to adjust.

Sometimes, my eyes looking out instead of looking back at me also need time to adjust. I'll walk into a nudist situation and my eyes may be darting everywhere at first, then poof, I'm back to normal.

What else did you notice and how did you see yourself change?
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