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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #945 on: July 03, 2020, 07:15:41 PM »
Nothing seems to interrupt the Covid news in the UK (although BLM and Honk Kong get a bit of a look-in now and then) so where last year we heard all about US forest fires there's been nothing this year. JBee, are these the "usual", every year-type fires or more of the unusual and "getting worse" type?

Peter S.: I’m quite not sure what you mean about usual fires, or every year, but here’s the scoop on my southwest. I hope that this covers it.

We didn't have forest fires with fire suppression. Then the forest service saw "unnatural excessive fuel for fire from suppression. So, they have been letting natural fires ie. lightning strikes in season just go, until they get near human structures, like telescopes and peoples cabins in the mountains and collections of these, so called towns. The budget isn't there that was in place with fire prevention.

This highly over simplified principle is being used as an excuse to cut money for the forests to save money, what the "free market economists" call big government spending. So, trails are not kept up, and the forests around them go up with all of the fuel. Then, an unnatural scrub grows in the sunshine, (bears like the berries), which is an even better fuel, which spreads to the remaining forests. The result is less shade and beauty for years and less and less forests.

I have to go to greater and greater lengths to find an intact trail, when half of the forests are gone in the White Mountains, and the sky islands. Everywhere, I see ancient trees burnt down, evidence of forests that were there way before fire suppression. So, it certainly isn't a natural process, or situation. It is a tragedy, and now perpetrated by the a rich man's business philosophy/untruth that has been poisoning the country and its governments.

The effect is great loss to nature and recreation and natural treasures, my value of the forests. With a ramrod in the White House that grew up on NYC asphalt, a real-estate developer who only understands and values beauty as a place for condos and exploitation for a buck, and nature as a walk around a golf course, the damage will last for over one hundred years.

The press doesn't tell us about fires, which are frequent, until they threaten people and towns.

This is local news today. Twenty years ago, it was national news when the same area burnt up the first time. At that time, Bush came to Tucson. He couldn't get there because the protesters had the streets literally lined for miles. Instead, he was secretly heliocoptered over them and up to the top of the mountain in a surprise move. A small group of supporters were there. He gave a nationally televised speech saying that the logging companies need to be contracted to "thin the forests" which doesn't mean that altruistic sense at all. It means rip and log. The logging industry is ruthless and owns the government generally. They also fund many forest studies that would benefit their craving to “manage” the forests.

Here we have five seasons. The usual four and monsoon, a second spring starting about now, early July, (which has changed the last thirty years, climate change). In June, the norm is very hot, totally dry and windy. Things dry up from the winter rains, then comes the relief from the monsoons. Every so often, a threatening storm will give us lightning, but no rain, hitting dry fuel. It is dangerous and a big fire will come here and there. Mostly, there are human caused fires. There are fire restrictions all over the state, until monsoon.
This one was lightning caused. The usual winds of June haven't been happening, so slowly over 3 or 4 weeks, the whole mountain has been burning. It is a towering inferno when watched from down here in the valley at night. The smoke has kept people indoors often. It also started unusually early.

They put several million dollars into it and up to 1000 workers, but the terrain is rugged and the focus has been only to save the bordering homes. Heaven help the banker/insurance interests. It was a very small fire at first, but mobilization was too slow (funding).

The upside is the tendency that fires like this will burn and leave erratic patches untouched. Upwind hillsides, bare rock face, canyons, winds on a given day, the wind patterns that the heat of those fires, like tornadoes, all protect spots. The consequence is patches of intact forest and lots of scrub. We never know what will be left. Most of the forests that I have hiked on Mt. Lemmon are leftovers. Next month, I’ll publish a story of the area that burned this time, that we had backpacked the week before. I won’t be able to get up there for years to see if my favorite friends and spots are alive. It takes a while. It hurts deeply, to some innate core, to experience the aftermath of that kind of destruction.

Now, with the following monsoon, we have to be concerned with soil erosion when the monsoons come and there is little to hold the soil. A thousand years of topsoil goes in an hour, leaving bedrock…not so natural, but evidence that fires like that are not a regular part of all forests ecology. Riparian area’s ecology take forever to build and support most of the life around them. Without soil, the water runs off quickly down the mountain…and that floods the valley.

Friend of ours had a bear and cub drinking out of her swimming pool. Loss of my habitat, too, but I'm a summer visitor. I only feel like I live there.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #946 on: August 10, 2020, 12:15:34 AM »
July was a Covid-19 lay up for three weeks. Since getting on my feet, I have been in catch up mode and emptying one of two storage lockers before rent is due again, cleaning the studio apartment to live in while I remodel the main house areas.

There is no time for outings and the local go to place is Mt. Lemmon, which has no trails open because they let most of the Catalina Mountain Range burn down. It hasn't rained but once for a monsoon season, which is every day for weeks and weeks, usually. It is dry drought and topping off around 105F most days. Hard to get around at those temps. I'd expect some outing reports from Europe with all of the reports of a heatwave. Necessarily nude at home and outside with no air conditioning?

I'm getting used to and acquainted with my new house. Little details like only two water faucets outside, and the old non-grounded house plugs, were interesting surprises. There is an about 660 square feet of enclosed porch, a nice living area. There is a very fine screen on it, which I'm learning to use nude, until I get the wall built. There is no visibility from the road during the day, turning off the lights at night makes it dark and I have placed a few obstacles where I could be seen to hide my nude movement. I've been observing the trends of walkers and drivers by. The metal roof on the porch heats up quick, naked makes a huge difference. I'll probably spray foam and Elastomeric up there and enclose it some more with a fireplace. "Arizona Rooms are wonderful much of the time.

We might have a weeks adventure in September, but getting set up, weather and fires are covering up opportunity and time. I want that wall up, so I have a secure nude playground. I went out in the front yard under the ramada for a bit the other night and sat in nice warm night air in the dark calm of the night. It is gonna be great here, in time.

We did spend early July in the Wilderness of the White Mountains glamping. It was glorious, until DF came down sick. She was sick in a good spot, however, She had to get back to Tucson and I got it the next day. The rains came with cloudy skies and lots of drizzle, as I laid in bed. When I got well enough, I needed to get the camp broken down and packed up. More constant rain was coming and I was only enduring the illness. So, we had some great time wandering the woods and glamping, UNTIL! I managed a couple of short walks. I had to keep bundled up often, but was too sick generally to care.

I was surrounded for a few evenings by wolves howling close by. I spent some time pondering them being about with me nude hiking. There will be a post on TheFreeRangeNAturist.org sometime in the future about that.
Jbee
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #947 on: August 10, 2020, 01:25:30 PM »
Not a good month for nudity in July, except for a few hikes in the first part of the month, then it was the babysitting of my grandson in places far too crowded.
I like hiking, running, kayaking, biking, sailing, geocaching...naked of course!

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #948 on: August 10, 2020, 07:26:21 PM »
July was quite a good month with several solo walks and  a couple of group ones. Most were in good weather but one was on a rain soaked day but we did manage to get a reasonable amount of naked walking in. I've been out a few times during August.  One of the below pics was taken in the shade of a tree on a very hot day and the second in the son, amongst the crops on a public footpath.

Davie  8)
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #949 on: August 10, 2020, 10:52:54 PM »
What do you do when it rains, or drizzles? Umbrellas, put on clothing, raincoats, plastic ponchos, just get wet? DF is very allergic to wet and cold rain it seems. If the wind doesn't blow, then is it nice in the summer's rains? When there is a breeze...well, what do people do on a hike in the countryside, or a walk in the gardens on nude days.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #950 on: August 11, 2020, 12:13:35 AM »
I have the perfect wet weather gear for naked walking, until it gets chilly with the breeze. On a group walk (with good social distancing) we all started naked and gradually a jacket went on, and then another until we had call got them on. Eventually after the rain stopped the coats disappeared

Its always the wind or breeze that forces me to put on clothes. I've walked quite happily naked at zero deg C on  a bright crisp clear and still day.

The last garden visit I did, it rained and the brolly came out. After a while it became rather miserable and we'd all left before closing time but we had stayed for a reasonable time given the weather, and it had been dry whilst we ate our picnic.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #951 on: August 12, 2020, 09:27:11 PM »
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What do you do when it rains, or drizzles?

If the rain is likely to be friary short duration then its easier to just get wet and dry off after.  If you wear most kinds of clothing in rain the clothing gets wet and takes lot longer to dry than your skin.  That makes you wet and cold for hours instead of minutes. 

if its a drizzle rain that probably will last all day then it doesn't matter so much because your skin or your shirt will be wet and cold all day. 

I have a rain poncho that I've worn in the rain, but it hasn't been used in more than 10 years.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #952 on: August 13, 2020, 01:17:17 AM »
Ponchos work out well, even the cheapo ones if they are built big enough. I had trouble putting one on over my backpack and bedroll a month or two back. Otherwise, plastic leaves the body heat inside. If the wind comes up, it can cool the plastic and then the condensation cools inside, which can be handy, or chilling.

My poncho had been in my pack unused for several years, too. In Arizona, it is generally easy to avoid the rain and when it rains it is often not fit for man nor beast, nor brolly (I've had them inside out). Umbrellas are generally hard to find and purchase around here. You either find a dusty one where it has been sitting for years, or can't remember what ya did with it, way back when.

Our monsoon has been replaced with a string of ridiculous heat days (110F this weekend). It hasn't rained but once, since I can't remember when. No rain since March or something. Very very unusual to not have a monsoon. This is killer for the desert, but the mountains aren't flooding and eroding after they burnt down.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #953 on: August 13, 2020, 01:48:44 AM »
When it's not fit out for man nor beast--send a woman.

I'm sure DF would laugh like crazy at that one.

This is the time we got caught in a thunderstorm on the way back from the swimmin' hole (Thetford, Vermont). Extra fun for no additional charge! (No, the leaves weren't naturally that way. It's the Facebook version.)


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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #954 on: August 19, 2020, 03:04:58 PM »
Paradoxically, I've had a pretty good month in Jul/Aug.  Weather has been warm if sometimes wet and there were a few days when I was doing a bit of renovation, moving books and bookshelves and building new furniture which the wife let me do completely naked on account of the steamy heat those days (85-90F).  This has sort of raised her toleration level a bit it seems and lately she scolds me less when I am nude around the house.  For instance today we have got to 2pm and I have been naked and very much in evidence with no comment from the spouse.  Larry Tanman Incrementalism at work?
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #955 on: August 20, 2020, 03:24:01 AM »
Heat waves surely help attitudes toward what passes for modesty and tolerance. People around here are lightly dressed. It has been 111F! Today my garage was 132F! If I sprayed water on the ceiling, it could be a sauna....
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #956 on: August 27, 2020, 03:18:11 AM »
I've enjoyed nude hiking for several years.  With perfect weather conditions I set out for a nearby wooded trail this afternoon.  There was only one vehicle at the trailhead, and as soon as I hit the trail, I encountered a women with five preschool children headed out.  "Perfect," I thought to myself, and as soon as I rounded the bend, I slid out of my hiking shorts and tucked them in my pack -- pretty much hiking without a net because if I encountered someone, there would be no way to cover quickly.

Off I headed on a 4+ mile loop hike, enjoying the nature trail naturally ... just my boots, my pack and a smile.  I'll bet I hadn't gone 100 yards when I looked up and noticed a female hiker coming my direction, not more than 10 yards away.  I suppose she was with the first woman and children, and hurrying to catch up.  Based on recommendations from JBee and others, I acted naturally and did not cover.  We met, exchanged a friendly greeting and went on our ways.  From everything I could tell, it was a positive experience.   She encountered a nude hiker, I treated her respectfully, and the world didn't stop. 

I’m certainly not afraid to be seen, but that surprise encounter stole my peace for the rest of the hike.  All I could think about was what would happen if she called the park police.  Would they be dispatched to meet me on the trail?  Would they be waiting for me at the trailhead or parked somewhere along the exit.  Would they show up at my home because they had identified me through the license plate on my vehicle?  How would I respond?  What would I face ... arrest, a fine, a sentence including registering as a sex offender, legal costs?  Perhaps irrational fears ... or are they real?

I'm starting to feel that this specific park is pretty high risk for nude hiking.  It's located close to home and I hike it frequently.  I've encountered several people (while I was clothed) that now recognize me as a regular. 

Curious for other's thoughts.  Are you likely to curtail nude hiking in such instances? 

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« Reply #957 on: August 27, 2020, 04:05:03 PM »
Good reaction to this meeting. A smile and a "hello" defuse rather well situations that can seem complicated.
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« Reply #958 on: August 27, 2020, 06:46:54 PM »
Yes, Rollo, I have had similar experiences.  Where were you?  Federal property generally has different guidelines for enforcement and different locals have differing acceptance of uncommon behaviors. 
There is a National Seashore on Padre Island which has been commonly used by naturists in specific areas.  One area I occasionally visit is blocked from traffic by barrier pilings separating the county beach from federal property.  Families, often with children, frequent the area just inside the federal property, but walking down the beach a bit will provide enough privacy for some nude beach combing, sunning and skinny dipping.
Once while walking into the federal beach, wearing a sarong, I passed 2 women, one with a large dog, the other with a young daughter (~10 yo).  I was making friends with the dog and chatting with the first women.  As we parted, the second woman passed by.  We exchanged greetings, but that was about it.  I walked further down the beach, before unwrapping the sarong and continuing nude.  I was far enough that if they hadn't seen me take off the sarong, they wouldn't have suspected I was naked.  Since I was walking away from them, they couldn't have seen my genitals, only seeing my butt as I walked away.
Later, I was approached by park rangers about the incident.  She apparently drove up to the park entrance to report me.  I provided my side of the story and mentioned the other woman I interacted with.  I told them that I had not exposed myself to her or her daughter at any time.  After getting all of my personal information and considering their options, they said they were going to circle back to the woman with the child and get a statement from the woman with the dog.  They left.  I left shortly afterward since I no longer felt welcome.
I have encountered others in this area, some nude and others not.  Once I was walking along the nude section and noticed a man walking my direction.  I wrapped the sarong around me when I noticed he was wearing shorts.  We chatted for a short while when he asked if it was okay to be naked on the beach.  I said that it was perfectly fine with me, and there was no one else that could be offended.  He also asked about how safe it was to swim there, where I assured him it was safe, but not to go out further than his abilities permitted.  As I walked away, he shed his shorts and waded into the surf.  I also shed my sarong and sat for a while just to make sure he didn't get into any trouble.
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« Reply #959 on: August 28, 2020, 01:59:57 AM »
I’m in the Midwest and the park is managed by a local municipality.  I suspect my choice of attire would certainly raise eyebrows here.  However, it’s not uncommon to hike the entire trail and see absolutely nobody.  When I saw only one car In the parking lot and a good sized party headed to the trailhead, the logical conclusion was that the trail was now mine to enjoy.  Surprise!