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Re: Nudes in the news
« Reply #150 on: November 24, 2015, 07:02:57 PM »
Linemen have always been a breed apart as far as I am concerned.

Working with power that can fry you in an instant is one thing, but to do so during any kind of storm, is just amazing.

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« Reply #151 on: November 24, 2015, 08:48:21 PM »
Bob,
Glad you're through the bad effects of the storm.  We heard a lot about it on the UK weather but mainly how it affected the US Atlantic seaboard and therefore what remnants of it we get over here.
Do you lose all your refrigerated and frozen food after 6 days no power?
What problems does that length of power outage cause.  For you I guess the water goes off too.
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« Reply #152 on: November 24, 2015, 10:24:34 PM »
The local preppers are probably having a kick with I told you so's! Good practice for their scenarios.

I have thick incredibly insulated walls. I can retreat into a smaller room and I have a portable wood stove for it. The likelihood of a freeze continuing in Arizona is a joke. Most likely, I'd find warm naked time.

 I have a tank with more or less 3000 gallons of water. There are just a few days food in the fridge that would have to be eaten. Otherwise, canned and jar foods. I keep approximately five days of gourmet dehydrated food on hand for backpacking. I just got a cool book on fermented foods a couple of days back for my health, which will be stored. I fast regularly and now I'm used to that. I can be happy with water alone, for a couple of weeks. I also keep stove and gas for car camping. I have a cell phone and a charger in my truck. I have an extensive library, but loss of internet could be traumatic. :o :P :'(

The thick walled house is a cottage with some fortress-like features. There is a lot of food on the desert. I've got a box of candles. Got a place to pray....The weather most likely wouldn't interfere with being naked for long. It would probably demand it, instead.

So, Bob, how'd you all do? I'd been told that it was more than a storm, but an unusual gigantic micro-burst amongst a lousy bad storm that produced the 120 mph winds. Could you go to town and was the power good there? Don't you have a large wood burner that heats the whole house. You have a large space with partitions. Do you have an enclosed room?

Just curious, like Nuduke. Kinda off topic, so, I'll ask, "Could you get naked at all for six long days?!?"
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« Reply #153 on: November 24, 2015, 11:17:10 PM »
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I fast regularly and now I'm used to that. I can be happy with water alone, for a couple of weeks.
Wow!  You often talk about the food you eat on hikes and such.  All very healthy.  But how often do you fast and do you do a couple of weeks each time?  What are the effects, if any, both during and after resuming eating.  There is a body of opinion that fasting is good for you, typified by the 5+2 diet and such but a day or two is the usual dose.  Tell us more about your ascetic nutritional practice, please, jbee. :)
 
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« Reply #154 on: November 25, 2015, 12:56:31 AM »
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I fast regularly and now I'm used to that. I can be happy with water alone, for a couple of weeks.
Wow!  You often talk about the food you eat on hikes and such.  All very healthy.  But how often do you fast and do you do a couple of weeks each time?  What are the effects, if any, both during and after resuming eating.  There is a body of opinion that fasting is good for you, typified by the 5+2 diet and such but a day or two is the usual dose.  Tell us more about your ascetic nutritional practice, please, jbee. :)
 
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Discovering that I was hypoglycemic had me eating to control mood swing like eating for medication for years. The idea of not eating seemed a ridiculous notion with all of the uncomfortable effects.

During the time leading up to India, I began to follow spiritual fasts. Iíd drink organic apple juice here and there with water. It seemed to be augmenting my quest for a permanent altered state. There are multiple and complex reasons for the spiritual fasting.

I did this a few times a year as it felt time, or was suggested. I had just begun one of these and I read Gabriel Cousenís  ďThere is a Cure for Diabetes.Ē The procedure requires a fast. I was already half way there. I did it and began a raw food diet to the letter of the book. The hypoglycemic roller coaster mitigation disappeared completely.

I began to investigate further about this fasting thing and health. Hands down, nearly all studies show fasting increases longevity.  It is great for general health. It resets my clock so to speak. It starves the causes of gut imbalance and rebalances. This is basic to a host of killer diseases. The other systems work better, there is a detox effect. It goes great with sweating for the skinís functions. Vitamin D is produced by the body with this balance and lack of toxicity. We evolved with degrees of starvation, which is natural. The system gets a break from the work of digestion and turns to balance and detox instead. There is a ton of information out there supporting the benefits of fasting, most based on very controlled medical science.

The first couple of days can be roughÖstarvation, super hungry. After that, it is easy. I donít really want to eat. I do it when I have fallen off of my 80% raw foods diet enough to need a reset. I do this about three times a year. I go a week to ten days. It is intuitive and depends on how out of whack my system is (one indicator is that the symptoms of the hypoglycemic stuff begins to return). These days, I either go straight water, or juice fast. I can often feel the symptoms of detox. It makes me very aware. Some people get more energetic when they fast. I went twenty days once. I can also get kinda spacey while going through it, especially the first few days.

I often donít eat from dinner till the next afternoon. Maybe a juice. This helps the body by giving it a break from digesting, which is better for the sleep states. It is a fast.

Sometimes, the first days are very hard. I get SOOOO HUNGRY!!! Sometimes during those days, I just sit and thoughts become less and less relevant. Then passed that, Iím pretty good, but thatís just my bodyís system. It varies.

It is all good for weight problems, as long as you get to the ďIím not hungry anymore.Ē Otherwise, the starvation reflex a natural gluttony has one shoveling food down, jaw unhinged. This is very unhealthy and can lead to eating disorders.

When it is time to get back into food, I ease in. Juice becomes smoothey, probiotics like miso soup, which leads to yogurts, and more easily digested stuff. I like to get to a sushi bar for miso, a few green beans, green tea, and some protein with omega fish oils. Then do my best with Cousenís live living food cookbook, raw stuff. The nutrition drops away fast as food gets older, it is cooked, etc. When I eat this living stuff, I donít eat as much and Iím more mindful of the experience, eating slower, enjoying it. I shovel, eating other things completely differently. After about a week, Iím stuffing a good pizza. Itís my treat and liberation from the renunciation discipline of perfection.

I donít know about 5+2 diet. I just googled it. It doesnít sound like a good idea. It should just put someone in a starvation mode all of the time and keep them obsessed with food. It is important to biologically reset and detox, which takes more time. Eating whatever, certainly isnít good. There is so much crap, fake food out there. Shoveling food because it has no nutrition and the body keeps trying get nutrition when it isnít there. All of the unnecessary preservatives in processed foods. Cooked foods until there is nothing left. Sugars and salts by the truck loadsÖon and on. You have to get to the point where you are not hungry anymore, get reset and then the body is okay to not eat here and there.  It is important to eat nutritious food when you do eat, mindfully and relaxed. 
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Re: Nudes in the news
« Reply #155 on: November 25, 2015, 05:36:35 AM »
Bob,
Glad you're through the bad effects of the storm.  We heard a lot about it on the UK weather but mainly how it affected the US Atlantic seaboard and therefore what remnants of it we get over here.
Do you lose all your refrigerated and frozen food after 6 days no power?
What problems does that length of power outage cause.  For you I guess the water goes off too.
John


We have a portable generator that we drag out to the yard and plug in to our house.  It produces 6250 watts, or a single 30 amp, 230 volt source.  And it uses about 5 gallons of gasoline per day if you only run it 12 hours or so.  It will do our well pump just barely if everything else is turned off.  So most of the time we left the well pump disconnected and had enough electricity for refrigerator, gas heater fan, and a TV.  It was a pain in the behind but we survived without any serious problems. 

Quite a few people in town had big trees come down on their homes, often right through the roofs.  A couple of people died when trees landed on them.  Its a week later and there are still about 10,000 people without electricity.  Probably most don't have generators.  Broken frozen pipes will be problems when they get thawed out. 

The city and schools have been providing warm places and meals for people who can't live in their homes.  The power line crews are working 18 hour shifts.  The weather is about 20 F or -6 C.  We had 3 inches of snow today.

My own home survived well, all things considered.  Life is getting back to normal.  Its to F'ing cold to go run naked through the woods until spring.  DRAT! 

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Re: Nudes in the news NAKED RUGBY
« Reply #156 on: November 28, 2015, 10:19:23 PM »
This is probably old news but its naked Rugby.

All sports should be played naked.   The fans want to see the athletes.   Olympics are always naked. 

http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/video-highlights-nude-rugby-takes-place-in-dunedin-ahead-of-bledisloe-cup-test-2013101919#axzz3sotwbIsn
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Re: Nudes in the news NAKED RUGBY
« Reply #157 on: November 29, 2015, 02:52:39 PM »
This is probably old news but its naked Rugby.

All sports should be played naked.   The fans want to see the athletes.   Olympics are always naked. 

http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/video-highlights-nude-rugby-takes-place-in-dunedin-ahead-of-bledisloe-cup-test-2013101919#axzz3sotwbIsn

I am in total agreement! Sports should be played by the masses to encourage fitness and body acceptance. In fact golf would be a perfect sport along with swimming. And the Olympics should be done nude also. Tear away the religious faÁade that adds to body shame. Enough class athletes would also topple governments that insist on outdated moral values.
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« Reply #158 on: November 29, 2015, 03:00:27 PM »
There is an article in this Saturday's Daily Mail about our first openly naturist bishop.
It has the Wail's usual slant and, of course the usual range of bigoted responsed among the comments.
The link is here.
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« Reply #159 on: November 30, 2015, 05:22:56 PM »
I've seen this story posted elsewhere but thanks for the link John. It is refreshing that not only is it a member of the clergy who is endorsing on the lifestyle but a female one at that! There have been a number of clergy who have been in support of nonsexual nudity however this is the first female I have known. My usual reference point when my nudity/Christianity is questioned is John Paul II's Love and Responsibility as the benchmark. If your nudity is not to shock or arouse then the sin is in the eye of the beholder.  Once I began to read the usual bigoted responses it seemed to me they fell into two groups: men who are unable to control their urges so feel that nudity is a temptation and those that feel she does not represent their religion. Anyway, it opens the discussion and that is a start.
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« Reply #160 on: November 30, 2015, 05:51:36 PM »
There's a website that purports to offer advice about sexual issues for Christians (married Christians, let's be clear about that) and they have a permanently-installed essay on nudism available:

http://site.themarriagebed.com/bible/scriptural-applications/christian-nudism

The author is honest enough to avoid any claims that the Bible forbids nudity, but he says it's a bad idea anyway. I'm not religious, so I'm not going to argue whether he's right or wrong.

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Re: Nudes in the news NAKED RUGBY
« Reply #161 on: November 30, 2015, 07:01:48 PM »
This is probably old news but its naked Rugby.

All sports should be played naked.   The fans want to see the athletes.   Olympics are always naked. 

http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/video-highlights-nude-rugby-takes-place-in-dunedin-ahead-of-bledisloe-cup-test-2013101919#axzz3sotwbIsn
The chicken mascot wore a uniform shirt. Why?

The women didn't get equal treatment? Oh well, I suppose that incrementally speaking, if it becomes okay for the boys and girls get discriminated out of it, girls will find the injustice and eventually will want it themselves.

It was disconcerting at first, but it began to seem very normal, until it was all about the rugby match. Rugby looks fun.
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« Reply #162 on: November 30, 2015, 07:51:05 PM »
There is discretion and there are out and out lies, depending on the social context. There is being true to yourself.
There's a website that purports to offer advice about sexual issues for Christians (married Christians, let's be clear about that) and they have a permanently-installed essay on nudism available:

http://site.themarriagebed.com/bible/scriptural-applications/christian-nudism

The author is honest enough to avoid any claims that the Bible forbids nudity, but he says it's a bad idea anyway. I'm not religious, so I'm not going to argue whether he's right or wrong.

This guy is quoting a "reader survey" that 40% of nudists are swingers! A very large crock of BS there. Poor source and not anywhere a fact in my long experience in various nude/naturists culture.

He also states a line MUST be drawn, or there is dishonesty. He doesn't acknowledge a simple healthy sense of boundaries, nor does the culture of some of these churches. It is not dishonest to withhold information from others that would do you harm, or from the relationships in which nudity is irrelevant with no need of mention.There is discretion and there are out and out lies, depending on the social context. There is being true to yourself. Then there is the ol' nobody's business but my own.

Then he blames the nudity instead of the church and the inherent conformity that is being imposed. That's another form of intolerance that isn't healthy whether it is the local fundamentalist or a Suni Muslim in burkas stoning people. He has a choice to accept that kind of oppression from his church, it is his church, but leave me out of it. There has been a long history, since original settlements in this country, of people leaving intolerant churches when it got to be too much. People left Europe because of intolerance and then became intolerant here, and saw people leave and switch. It appears to me that this guy is speaking for his own type of Christan organization and narrow.

I did find it refreshing, to see nudity acknowledged as  part of some people's Pagan "Religious" beliefs. 

He seems to be in a smaller community. It was a long tradition in many locales to have church communities and secret societies imposing the power of ostracism as a tool of conformity, advancement and control.

Everyone has to question and make decisions of their sense of their own changing values, or be owned by someone else.
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« Reply #163 on: November 30, 2015, 07:57:34 PM »

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« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2015, 03:58:15 PM »
Having read other Christian articles on nudity it seems to me something is "rotten in Denmark".  If you were to quote a 40% swinger participation from a Nudist magazine poll one would surely reference the publication. Without reference it seems any number could be made up to prove a point. It seems that the writer is playing to his audience, much like many political candidates are doing, reinforcing the fears and conformity. My gut instinct tells me that there is more to this than meets the eye. Perhaps more of a personal struggle or a marital one?

Then the idea that one would gravitate to nudist friends rather than Christian ones? Are you so unsure of your beliefs that one would exclude people because they may be a bad influence; or is it the fact they are exposing the hypocrisy? I swear, some of these religions are more cults than a form of worship.

I also got a chuckle of the Pagan religious beliefs. Wonder where that came from? I'm sure out of the wrong context. Not long ago I read a book "The God of the Wilderness" which stated that in the Old Testament God appeared to the prophets in wilderness settings. Think the burning bush and the tops of mountains, and even Jesus gave his most important teachings outdoors such as the Sermon on the Mount. To me there is a disconnect between the teachings of some Christian churches and nature (nudity included) as life was intended.

I attended Catholic school and still practice my faith. And I have dealt with guilt issues (which my ex pounced on) and in the meantime have reconciled. Many times when I have returned from my hikes my misses asks, "did you have a talk with your God?". Honestly I can answer "Yes"!
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