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« Reply #180 on: December 09, 2015, 05:51:13 AM »
What! You threw away an antique?
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« Reply #181 on: December 13, 2015, 11:24:54 PM »
I looked up the discarded projector on flea bay and was surprised to find the exact model and similar ones on sale.  My heart sank when I realised the huge value I had discarded.  Like winning the lottery and losing the ticket.  Those babies were changing hands for up to $28!  Oh woe, woe and thrice woe!  Alea iacta est! Misery and again, woe!

Which sarcasm, must convey my desire to leave the collection of antiques to the antiquarians, history to the museum curators and valueless clutter to the clearance agents!

It's not that I don't appreciate and value appropriate* heritage but unburdening myself of a proportion of the personal clutter of ages was much more cathartic and rewarding than clinging to the now functionless trappings of the halcyon past.

Je ne regret rien! :D

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*cf our previous and other discussion of the use of the word appropriate!

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« Reply #182 on: December 14, 2015, 05:12:03 PM »
The last move, I built a house to my needs. I then piled everything up (all of those packing boxes) smack in the middle of my great room. It was nearly filled up. Everything useful was put in place. Everything that was too cool to dis-attach from was put into place. The rest went into a great garage sale. My son made a couple of hundred dollars from the sale of old toys. There was no haggling. If I got an offer, I took it and was rid of it, my heart the better for giving increase to another. The rest went to the Goodwill store. Now, it is Good will for used, or recycling for that which is broken...but things still accumulate! Books, I'm never done with books!

When I walk naked in the desert, everything I possess seems so irrelevant.

I had a friend stay a couple of days helping in preparing a sweat last week. He shared his minimalism with me. He refused to sleep indoors and stayed out on my patio. He is homeless, other than a spot in a wash where he lives naked as he chooses. He has a cell phone, a solar powered reading lamp, and a $600 sleeping bag. He is a master at rigging tarps. He has an ultra-light set of possessions that he straps onto a high tech bike. He travels periodically. He eats well, shopping at Trader Joe's. Next month he goes on Social Security and figures that he will save money. He recently moved from a Teepee in an alternative community.

Although I couldn't see myself happily in such a renunciate extreme, when I hang out in the nature naked, my perspectives change. When I watch my body reacting and adapting to 105F and 35F in wonder, or ponder how the Natives related to life....
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« Reply #183 on: December 16, 2015, 09:43:02 AM »
Every year in the town of Meredith, in Victoria, Australia, there's a music festival, and apparently every year it ends with a naked race ...

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/we-asked-people-at-meredith-why-they-love-the-naked-festival-race

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« Reply #184 on: December 16, 2015, 09:45:29 PM »
Wow! That was positive in a BIG way.

I think that more people would in other circumstances, if it was sanctioned and felt safe. We've been doing benefits to save our sweat. I notice many new people strolling around enjoying their freedom, because they can.
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« Reply #185 on: December 17, 2015, 03:50:49 PM »
Social media, being what it is today, is a constant bombardment of "freedoms" that we should have prior to the election. As our "rights" constantly get attention no one ever mentions "life, liberty" and most important the "pursuit of happiness"! All the postings mention speaking your mind or the fact you can own a gun but no one mentions the right to have a free body. I would drop social media if it were not the only was to keep in touch with some of my relatives.

This a long way around to getting to my point which is for as much as America is advertised as the land of the free all the fun nude things are in other countries! Even the WNBR events in the USA seem tame (textile) compared to what I've seen in Europe. Just like the rugby game posted here not long ago why do I envision a SWAT team surrounding on the participants?
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« Reply #186 on: December 17, 2015, 03:59:52 PM »
All countries seem to get "hung up" on certain things. From our experience in the US guns are good,  booze bad as is nudity. In the UK guns are bad booze is good and nudity ummm still on the prudish end of the scale I'm afriadbut so far over as it seems to be in the US. France nudity and booze good - not sure about the guns.

I generalise of course but still think of amusement that in one store in the US we passed the gun cabinet but had to go into a special area to get a bottle of beer and in a restaurant despite my grey hair had to prove I was over 21 by showing ID.

My son worked for a spell at the HQ Scout HQs which typical of the UK has a bar. Scouts aged over 18 from the US came over on the service team. In the uK you can legally drink at 18 as opposed to 21 in the US. My son tells me they all experienced at least one hangover thanks to the more liberal UK law.

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« Reply #187 on: December 17, 2015, 06:24:19 PM »
At the local convenience store in town there is a magazine rack. It provides mostly gun glory mags filled with the power of assault rifles and assault tactics. Young men with no power, no ego, depression, going nowhere, lonely and frustrated love to feel that their lives can be changed, to be empowered, with "badass" militaristic fantasy. There are a couple of drug mags like "High Times" promoting, idealizing buds in the centerfolds and other recreational substances. Not much else there. All manner of alcoholic and caffeine power drinks are available next to soft drinks, weird tea and bottled water. Playboy and its spin-offs as would any magazine with nudity in it, are wrapped in plastic for censorship to protect us. Until a couple of years back, state law had them wrapped and sitting behind the counter. The customer had to ask for it and certainly couldn't browse. 

There is nothing in there with any nutritional value and most is processed with additives. You can only get high on sugar and down with fat. The lot is completely paved with asphalt. It is a box, a totally man made unnatural environment, with a sign out front stating "No shirt, no shoes, no service."
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« Reply #188 on: December 17, 2015, 09:06:49 PM »

I generalise of course but still think of amusement that in one store in the US we passed the gun cabinet but had to go into a special area to get a bottle of beer and in a restaurant despite my grey hair had to prove I was over 21 by showing ID.
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Last week the US Government (Obama) was making speeches about controlling guns.  The American public got worried that he might do it.  They went out and bought enough guns to outfit the whole US Marine Corps plus 4 Army Divisions.   That was on one weekend.  Obama seems to be the most effective gun salesman ever.

All the Islamic terrorist mass killings end up at "gun free zones."   By comparison there also was a recent Islamic attack in Texas where guns are encouraged.  Result was 2 dead Muslim terrorists.  None of the targeted audience was hurt.  The areas with high rates of so-called "gun violence" happen where guns are outlawed. Most of middle America has very little crime of any kind.

Meanwhile the US Government won't allow nudity on broadcast TV. Part of the country partially allows nudity, but police still prosecutes us under other laws like sometimes happens in the UK. 

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« Reply #189 on: December 18, 2015, 04:25:59 AM »
Yea, Obama brought that up just in time for the Black Friday and the ensuing Xmas season. ;D

Bob wrote, ďAll the Islamic terrorist mass killings end up at "gun free zones."   By comparison there also was a recent Islamic attack in Texas where guns are encouraged.  Result was 2 dead Muslim terrorists.  None of the targeted audience was hurt.  The areas with high rates of so-called "gun violence" happen where guns are outlawed. Most of middle America has very little crime of any kind.Ē

The mass killers and terrorists want a blaze of glory, not find themselves in a gunfight with their impact diminished. A gun shot could come from anywhere and they fear that. They attack with surprise on unarmed groups.

Iíve had a gun nearby all of my adult life and never needed it (I donít carry a gun on me when naked. It feels like clothing). The odds of getting hit by a goofballís bullet are nil for most people, especially in most places in the country. Still, there are those who think that it is a practical solution to disarm everyone, like that could happen at this point. Politicians and fascists manipulate with fear. Sometimes it ďbackfires.Ē ;)

So, well put Bob.

In Arizona, you must be 21 to work in and visit a topless bar that serves alcohol, in a g-string of a certain width. You can be 18 working in a nude lap dance club which serves no alcohol. At one time, Iím not sure about now, you had to be 18 to buy Playboy, or any porn. Looking at these milestones in maturity, they are incongruent, it doesnít make sense. All of this confusion and the results of it could be avoided, if all of the laws were dissolved and social change could be given time and opportunity to take place (One reason for the goofy age inequity was that 18 year olds were given the right to vote and drink at the same time, because they were old enough to be drafted and sent to war. But, the drinking part was rescinded and so was the draft). People raised to drink responsibly generally drink responsibly. Many of the 18 year olds that were given alcohol freedom didnít know how to be responsible and some died before they learned, as they were cut loose with no training. Similarly, if the body was to be freed and people informed to make their own decisions and choices about their own bodies, this would be a very different place.

Education and experience goes a long way. Gun education should be mandatory in high school, teaching respect, the true danger of them and practical knowledges, like good driverís education classes do. Education was Thomas Jeffersonís approach. His work started public education in America. He feared the uninformed and uneducated masses early on. My solution, drop the restrictive laws and mandate education making fully informed citizens.

Then there are the mental health issues. People get squeezed in this world way too much and some pop easier than others. There are ways for us to stop squeezing so hard, and learn to look out for each other.
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« Reply #190 on: December 18, 2015, 04:09:09 PM »
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« Reply #191 on: December 18, 2015, 04:30:41 PM »
That judge sounds like a clear example of what is so wrong with the criminal injustice system.   Its good that he's concerned enough about wasting taxpayer money (and his bloated court budget) to have gotten tired of abusing poor Steve. 
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« Reply #192 on: December 18, 2015, 04:33:46 PM »
Without wanting to cause offence - each (country) unto its own.

It is however interesting to compare the US experience with that of Australia. They had masses of firearms, although clearly nothing like the number in the US but after a mass shooting the law was changed and the result was firearms offences and suicides dropped dramatically. See here.   I walk the streets of the UK without the general fear that my neighbour might loose off a firearm (or their children will.) Even with strict gun control we have problems but nothing like the US. I have to say that I've never felt threatened whilst being in the US apart from when one giant of a man who looked extremly rough came towards us. He stepped off the pavement raised his hat to my wife and said, "Evening mam," proving you can't judge people by their looks. (Another lesson learned)

We do have problems relating to alcohol but generally speaking the consumption by younger people is actually dropping. I think there is a need for cultural change from, "Its cool to get blathered." which I've hear quoted by health professionals. In my own group of friends we drink less but that may be an age thing. Certainly its quality rather than quantity now. As an aside I've never seen a drunk at a naturist event apart from one slightly tiddly Frenchman on a UK site who was a happy friendly drunk who upset no-one. Is this a common experience?

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« Reply #193 on: December 18, 2015, 04:37:22 PM »
Steve Gough  -  the saga continues!  I wonder if a little common sense may be creeping in. On this occasion he was actually allowed to be naked in court. The judge also intimated he could apply to change the condition of the ludicrous ASBO which prohibits him being naked where it is lawful for others to be so. .. and a quip at the end.

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« Reply #194 on: December 18, 2015, 05:02:47 PM »
Just when I've been able to digest Jbee and Bob's posts good old Steve shows up again. A question I have is why do I never hear of the person who complains ever testifying in court? It seems to me that it is always the prosecution repeating the words of the arresting officers. Or did the officers just see him and decided to take him in without a complaint? Or did I miss something?

My guns were hand me downs from my father and since then I have passed them on to my son. I have debated on buying a handgun for a while now but as Bob wrote middle America has little crime. Maybe if our travels take us into more urban crime areas in the future I may reconsider.

The magic number 18! It must have been the European influence on my family because as young teens we were allowed wine and beer in moderation. I guess some of the other attitudes also came from the tradition. Once away from the nest it was easy to tell those who had been exposed and those who now had freedom. When the drinking age was raised to 21 I was already over the age limit but some of my fraternity brothers complained that the "rookies" ruined it for everyone.

Then there are those mental health issues. People get lost in the shuffle, well meaning laws get in the way of treatment and the whole thing is a disaster. I remember one from my EMS days. One winter a man was running naked in the woods. The local sheriff deputies called for an ambulance to assist. When we arrived and were advised of the situation a deputy asked me when we were going to "go after the guy?'. I responded "When he gets cold enough he'll come back".
Once the deputies left he did return and it was not a mental case but a little too much to drink. It's a fine line to walk and not cross!
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