Nudes in the news

[Peter S]

http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/08/naked-man-crashes-senior-picture-photo-shoot.html

All good fun. Welcome to Oregon

[Greenbare Woods]

 Eugene is one of he few towns in Oregon where nudity is illegal.   I guess Eugene people ignore the local ordinance.   Good for the man and  his dog.

When we go outside naked there always may be someone taking photos. Its all good. 

[John P]

Rather than "naked-man-crashes-senior-picture-photo-shoot" I think it should be "Overdressed teenager disturbs man's peaceful swim with his dog".

She says she knows that it's a popular swimming spot, so if she wants to take pretentious pseudo-artful pictures, she should expect to get her images cluttered up with people who genuinely want to swim.

Regarding the legality of the situation, the text says "near her hometown in Eugene" so maybe it was actually outside the city limits.

[nudewalker]

Ok, there was a naked guy playing with his dog in the river while someone was doing a photo shoot. Was he photo bombing them? I doubt it and you can't tell me with all the river pictures could not be taken without having the guy in them or cropping him out? If nudity is legal why the fuss? except to sell papers and make an issue of it.

[eyesup]

If that's "classic Eugene", then why post a picture?

If she thought it was normal why the comments? Do you post everyday photos of normal activities?

She was likely annoyed and did it as a response. If it were normal, just shift position and take another picture sans nude dude and move on.

She's graduating high school and wanted it to be special. With a nude guy in the background, she wouldn't have been the center of attention of the photograph.

At least she treated it with a sense of humor and didn't have an emotional breakdown.

That's a good alternate headline, JohnP!

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

She says she knows that it's a popular swimming spot, so if she wants to take pretentious pseudo-artful pictures, she should expect to get her images cluttered up with people who genuinely want to swim.

That's what I was thinking.  She goes to a "popular" swimming place on a summer afternoon and is surprised that other people are at the beach?   HUH?   

Regarding the legality of the situation, the text says "near her hometown in Eugene" so maybe it was actually outside the city limits.

Actually nudity is illegal in the whole of Lane County where Eugene is located. The river beach was probably in Lane county rather than the City of Eugene.  Lane County, the City of Portland, and two small towns called Ashland and Happy Valley make nudity illegal, but the rest of the state its legal without sexual intent.
http://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/06/public_nudity_in_oregon.html

[jbeegoode]

I guess I wouldn’t have time for the 24,000 retweets, but I’d be curious as to what those reactions were. The New York Times Mag was the source on the other side of the country. I suppose that that is one even larger retweet. It stirs up the pot and sells newspapers. It also creates a situation like Bob has been advocating that the more people see of naked humanity, the more it grows in acceptability. Guy minds his own business and it grows viral and ends up in NYTimes. Perhaps this helps prove out what Bob has been saying, but also socially, for every action there can be a similar and opposite reaction. Or, what we all have been saying, that most reactions are positive, or just some kind of amused.

So, why is this teenager wearing her great grandma’s titillating swimsuit from the 1930’s and 1940’s? Oh, I see, it’s her “little black dress.” Oh, I see, you can now wear a risqué swimsuit on the street and to respectable parties. If there is a logical progression, then might her daughter be wearing a thong contraption for her senior photos? She probably has been wearing her 1960’s panty hose on the outside like other women, too.

I was lead to this article by the same page: http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/08/body-image-issues-start-as-young-as-3.html
To me it is a call for more nudity and body acceptance around the home as the solution to an irresponsible media created socio-cultural flaw. It might be that even more children are eating crap that makes them fat and with very little nutritional value.
Jbee

[Peter S]

As no one here has yet owned up to being "nude dude" perhaps Eugene, Oregon, should be the focus of a FRN recruiting drive?

[eyesup]

 

This woman in New Hampshire has the right approach.

In the, “Encounters...what to do?” thread,  I mentioned Breasts Are Healthy. I did so simply because I remembered the site. After logging off, I went to the site and read some of her recent posts. I recommend doing so.

In a July ’16 post titled, “There’s a lot of bare-chestedness going on! (Summer 2016)”, she writes about the slow progress that is being made for women to choose to be topless. They go around doing everyday things you see people doing all the time.

One line I enjoyed about a group in NYC was,
The Outdoor Co-Ed Topless Pulp Fiction Appreciation Society has been hard at work having fun.
She has a sense of humor, a required quality when dealing with bureaucracies.

There is a comment on how co-operative the police were in Helena, Montana. A remarkable event. Police actually do deal with people in a realistic manner.

In another July ’16 post titled, “Power is not given. Power is taken. A 1,000 mile bare-chested walk”, she tells the story of a woman with breast cancer that walked barechested from Mississippi to D.C. It was a cancer awareness event. She had a double mastectomy and did the 1000 mile walk topless.

In a meeting with a church group in D.C. that had organized the cancer awareness day, some members weren’t sure why the woman from Breasts Are Healthy and her friend were attending topless. After explaining that D.C. has no law against that, they relaxed. Reasonable people react in normal reasonable manners when facts are presented in a calm and honest way. No shouting or ranting about rights and victims, just a peaceful demonstration on how men and women can be together without all the drama of a cultural or political agenda stirring things up.

A third article about New Hampshire has a few references to the truculence of police that actually believe that they can invent laws ad hoc that must be obeyed. Good cops, bad cops. Just like the rest of us there are good and bad everywhere.

This lady and her friends have learned how to deal with the uncooperative officers, but generally don’t get much push back. On one beach a group of women attempted to get a topless woman arrested and they were informed by the irritated officers that it was NOT ILLEGAL to be topless.

There is sanity amongst us.
A breath of fresh air.

Duane

[jbeegoode]

Bob wrote:
"Actually nudity is illegal in the whole of Lane County where Eugene is located. The river beach was probably in Lane county rather than the City of Eugene.  Lane County, the City of Portland, and two small towns called Ashland and Happy Valley make nudity illegal, but the rest of the state its legal without sexual intent.
http://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/06/public_nudity_in_oregon.html"

Now, that IS some valuable information. Thanks Bob. We are planning a trip to Oregon and that guy has done all of the footwork for me.
Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

Now, that IS some valuable information. Thanks Bob. We are planning a trip to Oregon and that guy has done all of the footwork for me.
Jbee

We have actually been thinking of moving to Eugene, OR, when my wife retires. Her two daughters live there.  Eugene has a reputation for being the most "liberal" town in the state, but this anti-nude law is kind of strange.   So we are looking at Corvallis, up the road a few miles.  Glad my wife understands that going naked around home has to be legal. 

Looking at the original Twit, there are several comments by reporters from other media asking to share her photos and story also.  BuzzFeed, NY Magazine, etc.  More media for going naked. 

Bob

[eyesup]

Yeah, thanks Bob!

My wife travels to Oregon occasionally on business and she has suggested I travel up after she finishes her business to be-bop around for a couple days.

Now I have more good reasons to say yes! 
I love hiking in the desert but an opportunity to hike somewhere green(?) and wet, "What's that again?", is too good to pass up!

Duane

[eyesup]

My wife's job takes her all over the west. After looking at the site about getting naked in Oregon, I decided to check if there was similar info on Washington.

Nothing as good as the Oregon one but some, in the process I ran across this article about Seattle nudists.

Being too aggressive can backfire on you so it would have to done with consideration.

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

Nothing as good as the Oregon one but some, in the process I ran across this article about Seattle nudists.

Being too aggressive can backfire on you so it would have to done with consideration.
Duane

Thanks for the article on Seattle.   They interviewed several managers at nudist parks that have a vested interest in prohibiting nudity anywhere except hidden nudist resorts.  Free range nudism might put them out of business.   If people could go naked at public beaches in Seattle then people would not have to pay to crowd into some hidden retreat

I think its good and I applaud the efforts of the Body Freedom group.  Nudity is actually legal in Seattle without intent to cause someone to be alarmed or affronted, same as at my location on the east side of Washington State.  It will take more public education and police education to establish what is permitted under law.  Good for the Body Freedom people. 

I see the article is dated 2003.  A lot of progress has been made since then.  Naked is a lot more accepted around Seattle and other places in Washington State. 

Bob


 

[John P]

I was so struck by the babe-centered view of naturism that the Oregonlive site showed that I actually made a count, until I reached 20 pictures of women and got bored with it. At that point the count was the 20 women (alone, in pairs or groups), 7 men, 6 couples or mixed groups, and 11 pictures which didn't have any nudity in them. That's pretty rough counting, because sometimes there were multiple sets of people in the images, and I went with the most prominent ones. A fair number of people were shown in more than one image. That's nudity as the textile media like to show it.

Mark Storey, who's part of the editorial team for N magazine, lives in Everett Washington, and he often writes about activities in the Northwest. His wife Kathy Blanchard is a parks manager in Seattle, and also an open-water swimmer, and she sometimes writes too.

Oregon is often mentioned as a nude-friendly state, maybe not quite as much as Vermont, but it would be hard to compare them. I suppose not many people know both places well.