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« Reply #465 on: January 25, 2017, 07:27:58 AM »
Many of us here would like to secede from southern Arizona and create a state called Baja Arizona. Twenty years ago, I was neck deep fighting a war with the powers that be to keep the incorporation of our Town of Tortolita. This nationalism is nothing new. We all like our “right” to self-determination. The world is increasingly being corporatized, homogenized with gigantic blankets of various types of power. Because it is getting so obvious the pitchforks are beginning to come out, even though, in this country, the corporate owned media hides it. This attitude was what motivated the Bernie uprising. In spite of the entire corporate media in this country giving him a total of only seconds in the context of challenging the presumptive candidate of the party and ignoring all of his issues, his message made it to the debates, but it was too late. This was a factor in Trump’s campaign strategy, to dupe the pitchfork holders, which many now, who voted for him, are seeing his picks as the bankster and corporate fusion of classic Mussolini fascism, in horror. He just got into office with a 32% approval rating (lowest in history) and the protesters Saturday outnumbered the inauguration attendees 3 to 1. Yea, yea, and we cannot forget Hilary, who stole her rhetoric from Bernie in obvious desperation to dupe people, just like Trump.

There will always be 30% that will support the president Trump no matter what he does, just as there will always be 35% that will support a new war. The key for the president and the oligarchy is to get another 16% to go along with his, or their plans. That is what media consolidation is about. 

There is a great deal of anger and outrage particularly in this country. I have had several friends of social media and privately in the flesh, discuss getting their guns out. I haven’t heard stuff like this since the late 60’s. There were millions of women, not to mention the men, taking to the streets last Saturday, many for the first time, all around the world. I thought it poignant when the only reportage of the issues discussed by the women’s March on Fox news, of 4 hours of intelligent and important speaking, was one line put out by Madonna. “Yes, I’ve been giving some thought to blowing up the White House, Too.” They meant to use it to demean and dismiss the massive march, but it opened the veil. She said the thing that everybody is afraid to say. They are that pissed, patriotic and outraged to commonly think these thoughts of violence. It is natural and common. I would imagine that the same thing is happening in social media on the other side among the 32%. Violent thought and fantasy are nearly always a distance from action.

The vast majority of Hollywood has always been more liberal and with their cultural media platform, they get a strong voice, but not as strong as Trump’s, another Hollywood celebrity, obviously. They often lend their names and influence to causes, sometimes to promote themselves, sometimes it just comes with the territory that they are known and people give them leadership. There are many examples like Ronald Raygun, or Charlton Heston, or Arnold Swartzenigger. People associated with their past roles, with great, or strong, personalities, time and money and name recognition. These people that “backlash” on nudewalker’s social media probably weren’t great fans in the first place. Don’t get me wrong, even these celebrities have the right to speak out, first amendment-wise.
 
At times of frustration and outrage, comedy has been a good outlet to defuse and vent. Trump will receive a truck…no convoy load. Laughter will help to quell the timber of the revolutionary fervor. Alex Balwin will be a household name. That’s what people who don’t hike naked with relief will do.

Otherwise I kinda go along with what Bob says, “When celebs are on stage doing "in your face" sexuality then their naked sexual display hurts any association with nudism. When celebs are simply going naked at a free beach or nudist farm then photos of them going naked are helpful. Like anything else it’s all about context. “

It has been too wet and cold to hike naked, even here in the desert of Arizona. But, last Saturday in a really crappy rain and wind storm, DF got together with her women’s group and took a short hike with 15,000 other mostly women, in a place downtown where nobody dares go nude. Yep, this time they were bundled up, but DF and I have wandered the same place in brief underwear for another occasion. As things heat up, no telling what you might see in the streets, but you will definitely bee seeing things happening in the streets. Everything political and governmental in this country at this time is unprecedented and extreme. Currently, my hope is that the other issues will keep nudity a low priority, giving us some flex under the major issue's radar, while we work like moths in a cloak (to borrow from Kipling).
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« Reply #466 on: January 25, 2017, 09:27:04 AM »
though the scottish nationalists are making a lot of noise they havnt got a hope in hell of winning a referndum until brexit is sorted .     their wish is to be an independant country within the eu.   trouble is theres so many other regions of eu countries that want the same thing so that theres no way countries such as spain will let an independant scotland into the eu as it will encourage their own sepratists .   spain has basques in the north and andalucians in the south both grumbling over central government.
scottish independance wont happen if brexit actually happens,  if brexit stalls its a new ball game as far as a referendem in scotland is concerned, but even if they win it theres no way spain etc will let an indipendant scotland into the eu.  which could lead to fragmentation of other eu countries.... though that  has been the aim of the eu beaurocrats all along... they want a multitude of regions rather than 27 countries ....
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« Reply #467 on: January 25, 2017, 09:33:32 PM »
Quote from: Bob
. . . Yale students have been getting naked in the stands since the 1970s . . . .

I read a very interesting book, "The Rule of Four", where the Princeton student body had a tradition of running around the quad naked on the day of the 1st snow of the season. It must be all that pent up tension of higher education seeking a release. Looked it up and the tradition was real but had been discontinued a couple decades ago because it somehow suddenly became "inappropriate".

The description in the novel, as I recall the author(s) attended Princeton, was presented in a very innocent manner.

Peter's report of the BN assertion that:
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decried naturist ramblers as exhibitionists, and claimed the only "true" naturists restricted themselves to the beach.
That is rather backwards. The natural world includes more than beaches, most certainly manicured and shaped ones at that.

Nudewalker, an originazation that tries to define "good" nudity as only recreation will eventually attempt to become the authority. Most of us here agree that "good" nudity can be normal. And vice-versa.

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« Reply #468 on: January 25, 2017, 09:39:24 PM »
er .... dont these mad bods always go up the difficult way then stroll down the easy way?

Climbers seldom "down" climb. They either rappel or walk off as ric says. The one rappelling would have simply waved on the way down, "Nice day for climbing, eh?"  ;D

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« Reply #469 on: January 25, 2017, 09:50:55 PM »
"I need to get out in the country and have a naked walk" - Davie
"Like Davie I need a naked walk in the countryside to clear my head!" - nudewalker

Yes! I AGREE!

I do not place any FAITH in human leaders and absolutely do not consider celebrities as any sort of role model for myself. Humans always mess up and spoil your little fantasy.

What I do, is expect anyone in a position of influence they have intentionally sought to follow through on any pledge, agreement or oath they have taken.

Celebrities do not take oaths to be celebrities. They are the beneficiaries of public attention that is as unpredictable as the weather. Why would anyone want to use them as a role model?

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« Reply #470 on: January 27, 2017, 06:21:02 PM »
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« Reply #471 on: January 27, 2017, 06:53:30 PM »

It does seem to be the case that the Donald is putting his signature on numerous orders etc., which reflect a new wave of US nationalism and putting the liberal clock back decades.  Indeed the rise of the right and this seeming tendency for more and more nationalism -Scots, Eastern European nations splitting into ever smaller, almost tribal, segments, Spain and France having national groups wanting autonomy, akin to welsh or scots in UK, and the rise of the far right in France and to an extent in the UK (that's what drove the brexit vote I reckon), we are in a perplexing time of change and only time will tell where it will lead.  Trumps inauguration speech seemed shot through with a desire to bring capital and profit back to the USA which one interprets from his other statements as being partly funded by decreasing expenditure and largesse in the rest of the world.  A statement of a protectionist mindset that is usually restricted to small states with extreme politics.  It seems obvious that a proportion of the wealth of the US that is spent philanthropically abroad, or on military action, if redistributed at home, could make a contribution to domestic economic growth (recovery) (something that Roosevelt did in the new deal, wasn't it?  ), yet surely there is room for compassion, largesse and support of the rest of the world by one of the worlds leading, richest nations. 
One wonders about Trump's sanity, however, hearing the statements on supporting torture and encouraging nuclear proliferation.
I find the current situation very perplexing and the huge public protests that are going on in the US and abroad seem very sterile without key US political figures at their head that are able to hold Trump to account for his proposals and subsequently his actions.
You voted him in, citizens of the US, you have to see where that goes....as do we all.


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« Reply #472 on: January 27, 2017, 09:16:54 PM »

It does seem to be the case that the Donald is putting his signature on numerous orders etc., which reflect a new wave of US nationalism and putting the liberal clock back decades.  Indeed the rise of the right and this seeming tendency for more and more nationalism -Scots, Eastern European nations splitting into ever smaller, almost tribal, segments, Spain and France having national groups wanting autonomy, akin to welsh or scots in UK,
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Yes. President Trump is probably the best thing that Americans have done for ourselves in a quarter century of slow failure.  I read that the French are also championing a new direction in political leadership after enduring all the violence in Paris.  UK PM May visited the US today and apparently got along well with President Trump.  She carried QE's invitation to visit the UK which President Trump accepted. 

He does own a couple of the better golf courses in Scotland, but I don't know if he will take time of for golf on that trip.  President Trump says he gets bored on vacations and likes to keep busy.

Its been a very long cold winter here in Spokane, WA, USA.  We still are snow covered and our 2 week forecast just says more snow. 

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« Reply #473 on: January 27, 2017, 10:05:45 PM »
First impressions, with all the executive orders Pres Trump is signing, are that he's aiming to run the government like a company CEO. Be interesting to see how that sits with the politicians who think THEY. are running things
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« Reply #474 on: January 28, 2017, 08:06:40 AM »

Mussed it up. Can't fix my mistake.
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« Reply #475 on: January 28, 2017, 08:12:14 AM »

...One wonders about Trump's sanity, however, hearing the statements on supporting torture and encouraging nuclear proliferation.
I find the current situation very perplexing and the huge public protests that are going on in the US and abroad seem very sterile without key US political figures at their head that are able to hold Trump to account for his proposals and subsequently his actions.
You voted him in, citizens of the US, you have to see where that goes....as do we all.


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I didn't vote for Trump. The election was rigged from the beginning, mostly by the corporate media and gerrymandering and unabashed lies. This is not my president. More than half of the electorate is ashamed to the world, to those who fought for freedoms, and shocked by his behavior, like me. I resent anyone saying that we, that is ME, elected him. He just plain doesn't represent me, he in fact is destroying everything that I hold dear and value about this country, its government, national treasures and fabric. I've seen many elections lost. I know what that is and I accepted those defeats, but this is an entirely different matter.

Bob and I disagree on this. It is okay that he believes what he does politically, but please, don't believe that Trump represents the American people, not generally and then lump me into this one. A close example would be if I were a prewar Italian and you said that Mousolini is my idea of Italy, that I elected him, that I should identify with what he is doing. He was hung from a telephone pole. To me, that is the appropriate place for the likes of Trump and the corporate fascist cabal.

Yea Bob, I feel for you in that winter crapola up there. It has been just cold and wet, or windy enough for weeks now in Arizona. Of course nothing comparable, but just enough to steal away pleasant naked days with one short naked tease. The result is the same, stuck naked indoors. Naked outdoors is uncomfortable.
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That's the Naked Dude. He walks by all the time.
« Reply #476 on: February 05, 2017, 01:44:40 AM »
This was linked on Facebook.   Its dated Feb 22, so I'm not sure its this year.  So much Fake News these days.

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Daily Mail – A man who walked into Nashville International airport completely naked on Sunday was arrested for public indecency, police said. Travelers were shocked to see the man wait in a check-in line and walk through the airport with no clothes on. The man has not been publicly identified and is in police custody for public indecency, a BNA spokesperson told WSMV.  Tod Brilliant, a man traveling from California to Nashville for business, captured the moment and shared the images to Facebook. ‘So this just happened at Nashville airport,’ Brilliant said in the album’s caption. ‘I walked up to him and said “You’re amazing”. He replied, “Thanks”. Then they came for him.’ ‘I was pretty impressed with Nashville. Aside, from a few people who’s jaws were dropped everyone else was doing their thing, going on business as usual. It was a great start to Nashville it’s a great city,’ Brililant later told WSMV. This is not the first time the man has been arrested. Airport officials said they have seen him walking outside the airport without clothes in the past, but this is the first time he was seen inside the terminal.

Best part is the airport officials being like “Oh yea thats the naked dude. Walks by here naked all the time. Never came in before though.” Oh ok cool. No big deal then. Its just Naked Dude. Whiskey, live music, chicken fried chicken, and Naked Guy. Thats what Nashville does!
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« Reply #477 on: February 06, 2017, 07:25:10 PM »
Public indecency is on the state law books. I suppose that that is what he was charged with. Someone had to be offended by it accordingly. But there seems to be no mention of anyone being offended. Just jaw drop WTF. I would suppose that most peopel are too busy going somewhere to have the time to be offended. Perhaps people are more likely offended when they have little else to do? It would be interesting to know how this pans out in court.

We were down in the Canyon at Redington Pass yesterday, talking to people about the forest service and getting signature support. No one had ever had any problem with a nude down there. One guy has been going down there 60-80 days each year for most of 15 years, never once had a problem. Nobody gets offended.

One young woman told me that she did have a family cover the eyes of their children as she hiked by.

There were reports of a couple of guys playing with themselves as voyeurs, which the nudes have given stern objections to.

One guy was way up stream, when he bumped into a female Forest Service packing a pistol riding a horse. She had no problem. It was as if he were dressed.

A very small percentage of people object to nudity and they are just concerned about kids seeing a body, which is ignorance.
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« Reply #478 on: February 06, 2017, 08:11:37 PM »
One young woman told me that she did have a family cover the eyes of their children as she hiked by.

When I went on the Naked European Walking Tour, one of the German hikers there told me about how she and her husband were out on a walk with their local nude hiking group (they have such things in Germany, evidently) and they met a family out on the trail and the parents did that, they covered up the children's eyes. And she said "And immediately, my husband covered up his own eyes as we walked past". Pretty good instincts there.

When we met people on the trail it was like this:
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« Reply #479 on: February 06, 2017, 08:18:10 PM »
Not so good news from England. Usually the law there is fairly benign, but that really means you can get away with being naked occasionally in unpredictable places. If you do it repeatedly (like around your house) and the neighbors don't like it, you can get into some trouble there, same as anywhere. But note that there's no question of this being a sexual crime, more in the nature of someone being a pest.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/malling/news/naked-carpenters-trial-to-start-119989/