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Hymie

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« Reply #210 on: July 23, 2019, 03:40:52 AM »
Problem is the woods are posted for hunting so I am trespassing when I leave my yard. The other thing is that I am probably known by the people (related to some) who own the cameras. I cannot afford the "exposure".

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« Reply #211 on: July 23, 2019, 01:18:53 PM »
Do you mean that the woods are someone's private property? That can be a problem all the way round. Nearly all the places I go are parks. The rest are either National Forest lands or Wildlife Management Areas. I generally don't step on anyone's private property but parts of the Appalachian Trail lie on private property now.

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« Reply #212 on: July 23, 2019, 05:37:32 PM »
Problem is the woods are posted for hunting so I am trespassing when I leave my yard.

Around here you can post your land "No Hunting" or "No Trespassing" or both.   Just posting "No Hunting" does not prohibit entry as long as no hunting is done.  Your area may have different laws.


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The other thing is that I am probably known by the people (related to some) who own the cameras. I cannot afford the "exposure".

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You have to judge your own situation.   Over many years I've concluded that we really have nothing to fear being naked but fear itself.

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« Reply #213 on: July 23, 2019, 06:03:34 PM »
I'd be getting an icky feeling. I get down when a new neighbor builds overlooking my free range habitat, or gets to roaming there. To think that my relatives have cameras wherever i roam, would be creepy.

Sounds like you have been enjoying someone's private property.

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« Reply #214 on: July 23, 2019, 06:55:26 PM »
I hate to admit that I have felt, with no justification, a certain possessiveness about some of the places I've been, few of which have been on private property and none recently. Where I live now, there simply are no large privately owned open (or wooded) spaces in which to wander. If it isn't a park, it has already been built on.

There are also gray areas. It is hilly around here and the land along most of the creeks is referred to as a 'flood plain,' although it rarely floods and they aren't plains, just the bottom land along the creeks. Some of those are parks, the rest is, in theory, privately owned. None of it is posted (except for the no dumping signs) and there is no difference between them and the parks. Ownership is vested, I think, in homeowner's associations. Anyway, some of them are good for hiking and that's where the deer live that eat my wife's flowers. There were no such places in the small towns I mentioned, so living in the suburbs has its good points, except you really need a car.

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« Reply #215 on: July 23, 2019, 07:24:00 PM »
In the UK everywhere is owned by someone. Even the national parks are only zoned as such, the land within the area is owned. Some landowners didn’t like being “parked” because of the new restrictions it imposed, some welcomed it as it meant they could get government grants. The earth of the footpaths/rights of way is owned by the landowners, the right to step on it is everyone’s. The landowners can be private individuals, companies, or local authorities,  very occasionally The Government, usually in the form of the Ministry of Defence for training grounds, firing ranges etc. Footpaths across the latter are not much used ....
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« Reply #216 on: July 23, 2019, 09:47:24 PM »
Well, in a sense, there isn't any land here that isn't owned by anyone. But it gets complicated. First there is the federal government. It owns a lot of land. Some of that is leased but I don't know what rights that gives those who are leasing the land, usually for grazing. Probably all rights, depending on what it was leased for. Some may think it gives them the right to shoot trespassers. Leased land like that is a big issue in some places and it has nothing to do with walking. There are lots of national parks and national forests, which are administered by different departments and have totally different missions and mindsets. The national parts include scenic rivers, national seashores, national monuments and I don't know what all. The Bureau of Land Management has the most land and they are the ones who lease grazing rights.

States have their own parks and forest systems, if any, as well as variations like wildlife management areas, which may have different names in different places. And counties (nothing like an English county) and cities have parks, too, which can sometimes be fairly large and densely wooded.

Everything else is privately owned, which may or may not have easy access or any access at all. For various reasons, I think access to some privately owned land has become more difficult in recent years. By privately owned, I am including vast acreage owned by mining companies and forestry companies, which may seem like unclaimed wilderness but by no means is. Then there is Alaska, which really does have a lot of unclaimed wilderness, though not as much as it used to, before some large parks were created.

As far as I know, there is no privately owned land that is inside a park, although I don't think that is true for national forests. I believe that national forests have as many hiking trails as the larger national parks and the better known long trails, such as the Appalachian Trail in the East, are not entirely within parks, although the actual trail itself might be considered a park. But it does cross private land in a few places as well as going through wildlife management areas. It even goes through at least one town.

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« Reply #217 on: July 24, 2019, 03:01:57 AM »
Most wooded land of substantial acreage in Louisiana is owed by either a corporation or a bunch of heirs. The owners make money off the land by harvesting timber, oil leases, and hunting leases. Most of these owners could care less if some one walks on their land. It is the hunters who post it for hunting that have a problem with trespassers. The land behind my house is owned by a smaller group of heirs who hunt the land themselves but do not have it posted. I can therefore legally walk on their land but it is a very small strip of woods. It joins a large section of land that is posted by a hunting club. I have never gone into there during or close to hunting season but have entered during the summer months with no consequences - not so now with the game cameras.

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Alas, I work in refineries and chemical plants now which are occupied 24/7 so no opportunities at work any more. Since my house flooded in August 2016 I have had little free time. Just taking a little break in the remodeling now. Hence the hiatus from posting.

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« Reply #218 on: July 24, 2019, 08:08:49 AM »
So DF stopped into the dermatologist office today, just a check up.

The doc mentioned her even tan. "Oh I hike naked." DF replied.
The doctor was in some disbelief. The intern certainly didn't believe her.
"No really, I like to hike naked."
The helper nurse came in. "Do you mind if I tell her?"
"Sure. Not at all."
"You tan in your back yard, or something, right?"
"No, it's from hiking naked."
"Do you bump into people? What do you do?"
"I just smile and say hello. Once someone asked me what happened to my clothes. I told him the wind blew them off."
"Well, I might try doing that topless, but...."
DF had a big laugh about these silly reactions. She was still laughing tonight when she called just to share the joke.

It would appear that many people just don't have a clue, never conceived of it.
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« Reply #219 on: July 24, 2019, 10:16:56 PM »
Hymie! Good to hear from you!

I seem to remember once you said your nearest neighbor was a couple hundred feet. That makes bumpin’ around the property much less stressful.

My neighbors are within 50 ft. and have a clear view of about 80% of my yard. Errrrrr ! ! !

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« Reply #220 on: July 24, 2019, 10:18:07 PM »
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. . . the natives being pushed and limited more and more, having nowhere to live their lifestyle.
Jbee, we were in DC in May of 2015 and toured the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian. There were some original treaty documents on display and as I recall every treaty signed with American Tribes (well ove 200) has been violated or broken in some form.

That in itself is sad but it says much more about those in charge of maintaining the treaties either in fact or in spirit.

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« Reply #221 on: July 24, 2019, 10:19:21 PM »
At one point there were some legacy properties privately owned after some of the parks were established but were required to be deeded to the Park Service at the death of the current owner, e.g., the children couldn’t inherit the land. It went to the government.

Don’t know how many of these families are still living in the parks.

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« Reply #222 on: July 24, 2019, 10:37:28 PM »
Unfortunate about your house, Hymie. I always think of my relatives down there every time I hear of the flooding in that area.

I was thinking about this with all the recent weather in the Gulf and now another flood season on the Mississippi. I have relatives in Hammond, Baton Rouge and up near Angola. Also near Alexandria on the Red. I haven’t heard bad news so I hope that is good news.

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« Reply #223 on: July 24, 2019, 10:38:41 PM »
That’s a story that made me chuckle, Jbee. I can just imagine that conversation.
As you say, people probably can’t see doing that. Too extreme for most.

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« Reply #224 on: July 26, 2019, 04:57:24 AM »
Though not as dark as you two,JB & DF, I  do have an all over tan and am scheduled for a colonoscopy next month. I have been trying to think of a funny response like DF's in case someone comments.