The Art of Free Range Naturism

[Alf]

This whole discussion has avoided the obvious point: "why organized nudists need towels". Seriously, I hate to carry a towel and it is solely to be used to keep a seat clean from our possible dirty asses. The towel is a symbol that we shouldn't be naked. Alternatively, if we are clean, no towel or "towel shame" is needed. Therefore, the art of free range naturism requires some hygiene practices. I always wash myself after defecating. In my ramblings, there is always a river, creek, shoreline, garden hose, or even a shower stall somewhere nearby. So squat (squatting is best), wipe, wash, and then I'll proudly sit any damn place I choose, and without the naturist's flag --the standard white towel.

../Alf

[jbeegoode]

I disperse towel hassle, but prefer it to sitting on funky cold surfaces where there are lots of people of various hygienic habits. If there is a swimming pool, no worries.

Hiking around here, you might surmise, often does not include a place to wash. Drinking water is heavy and precious to carry. We keep towelettes, and baby butt wipes in the bag, just in case. We also wash our hands with them before eating food. Me when their dirty, DF everytime.
Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

This whole discussion has avoided the obvious point: "why organized nudists need towels". Seriously, I hate to carry a towel and it is solely to be used to keep a seat clean from our possible dirty asses. The towel is a symbol that we shouldn't be naked.
../Alf

What Alf said!  The whole "carry a towel" shtick is an assertion that humans are too "dirty" to be naked.   I find it offensive and insulting.

Someone pointed out that kilt and skirt people have been sitting their bare asses on public places for hundreds of years, and nobody says "boo."  I guess if someone's behind isn't visible then he or she is not "dirty."   

I wash myself and sit where I like.  I don't carry a towel, and I'm not "dirty."

Bob

[eyesup]

To quote Groucho, "The contrary is also true."

I get the impression that most of us don't like carrying a towel. We know the necessity of maintaining good hygiene. We don't need a towel for those reasons.

When walking in the desert, I always carry something I can sit on if need be. Between the heat and the sharp environment, I have nothing to prove to anyone. I also do not believe for a moment that everyone around me is as diligent as I, and those here, about hygiene. If I am carrying a towel and it's not the desert, it is more for me than those around me. I don't trust 'em.

Whenever I sit on the chairs or the sofa without one, I get that look from my wife. I know there is no problem, and I also know I don't want to fight that battle daily. It's the gesture. I have no interest in being the manners or etiquette monitor for everyone. I have neither the time nor the patience.

At the end of my day, it's whether I was comfortable and enjoyed the naked time I had.

Duane

[ric]

when im sat on a clients rideon lawn mower i sit on my shirt,  after an hours mowing yesterday on some rather undulating ground with both up and down and side slopes  i did have a small brown mark on my shirt, to me sitting on summit on someone elses seat is no big deal, it shows to them that you are respectful of their perceptions , when im working naked for a non naturist i dont want to give them any perceived , real or imaginary negatives.



and i dont like sitting on black plastic seats in sunshine

[Alf]

I'm proud of you All!

Cheers,

Alf

[jbeegoode]

To quote Groucho, "The contrary is also true."

I get the impression that most of us don't like carrying a towel. We know the necessity of maintaining good hygiene. We don't need a towel for those reasons.

When walking in the desert, I always carry something I can sit on if need be. Between the heat and the sharp environment, I have nothing to prove to anyone. I also do not believe for a moment that everyone around me is as diligent as I, and those here, about hygiene. If I am carrying a towel and it's not the desert, it is more for me than those around me. I don't trust 'em.

Whenever I sit on the chairs or the sofa without one, I get that look from my wife. I know there is no problem, and I also know I don't want to fight that battle daily. It's the gesture. I have no interest in being the manners or etiquette monitor for everyone. I have neither the time nor the patience.

At the end of my day, it's whether I was comfortable and enjoyed the naked time I had.

Duane

I carry a piece of cloth for that reason, too. I carry it under the water bottle strap or pack strap, or camera strap for extra cushioning. I also use it when I begin to realize that I have too much sun on my shoulders. It keeps the minute ants off of a butt to sit on something that sets them apart instead of thick grass. Rock do h get extremely dangerously hot and insulation is a good protection.
Jbee

[nuduke]

Topic drift really, but re Alf's remark,

So squat (squatting is best),

I couldn't help but dash off some evangelical enthusiasm for squatting.  Gosh I've had a great deal of benefit since I discovered squatting!  Revolutionised my ano-rectal health i.e. no more piles! and changed the speed, quality, effectiveness, completeness and cleanliness of evacuation all for the better.  Why hasn't the entire so called civilised world reverted to squatting - it IS the natural way.
John

[jbeegoode]

Slowly and assuredly, we shall endeavor, one smile with an attached butt on the other end at a time. Progress is being made, especially since the silly advert went viral a few times.
Jbee

[eyesup]

So squat (squatting is best),

Having had to do this more than once, I concur. I do recommend doing so naked, or at least without pants, even if you are hiking fully clothed. There is zero chance of making the the act a wasted effort at avoiding an accident.

Duane

[nuduke]

I do recommend doing so naked, or at least without pants

I certainly would not recommend doing it WITH pants!

John

[jbeegoode]

This thread has gotten...
Well, what about a skirt, or kilt thing? Do you bundle it up above the waist, or let it delicately drape down covering the nasty process, or what? How is that done where the kilt originated, or has been in practical use for generations? I once saw a Bolivian Native woman squat in her billowing shirt and petticoats next to the curb at market. No exposure, no mind, just a curious stream running down the gutter.

Gentlemen, I'm not sure what waters we have topic drifted into.
Jbee

[eyesup]

Yes, John, with pants would be a bad idea unless maybe you are in a pack-it-in-pack-it-out area. 

I learned long ago to not risk getting anything on my clothes as a result of a lack of attention. If I'm not already naked I will at least get rid of all the pants. (in the UK pants are underwear and in America trousers are pants) Confused yet?

Duane

[midnightrider]

Hi guys, I am still with you ;-)  Interesting discussion, the towel is indeed a typical item for naturists. I think it is not always necessary from hygienic point of view but also to dispel prejudices on bare life.
There are so many reasons to have a towel with you and use it or not. I personally think it is always a pleasant idea to use a towel for sitting down on  when being out somewhere  in nature.

Cheers,
Paul

[JOhnGw]

I take the opposeite view and rarely use a sitting cloth in a natural environment.